Freesat query!

"Brian McIlwrath" wrote in message
...
The dog from that film you saw wrote:

: i thought it was the fact that freesat wants the channels to pay rather
than
: anything to do with sky?

That's part of it!!!

HOWEVER some Freesat EPG data streams need to get added to each
transponder
through data adapter hubs that Sky run. Sky have a limit on new services
they will add each month (even for themselves!) to ensure stability - so
Freesat has a limit to the rate that they can launch channels which are
prepared to pay!



i do wonder how many freesat boxes have been sold so far - if it's not that
many it's a bit of a cheek for them to be asked to fork over 100 thousand
( i think) to be included on an unproven service for a year.



--
Gareth.

that fly...... is your magic wand....

"Mark Carver" wrote in message

The dog from that film you saw wrote:

only the humax one - it has the option to switch between freesat
and
the ability to tune into any free channels.

No, the Alba/Grundig/Bush/Goodmans models now have that facility
too.


Have existing receivers had that ability added via a software update,
or does it only apply to newer models in the shops?



--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info

The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm

"The dog from that film you saw"
wrote in
message
"Brian McIlwrath" wrote in message
...
The dog from that film you saw
wrote:

i thought it was the fact that freesat wants the channels to pay
rather
than
anything to do with sky?

That's part of it!!!

HOWEVER some Freesat EPG data streams need to get added to each
transponder
through data adapter hubs that Sky run. Sky have a limit on new
services
they will add each month (even for themselves!) to ensure
stability - so
Freesat has a limit to the rate that they can launch channels which
are
prepared to pay!



i do wonder how many freesat boxes have been sold so far - if it's
not
that many it's a bit of a cheek for them to be asked to fork over
100
thousand ( i think) to be included on an unproven service for a
year.


How long does £100,000 get you included on the Freesat EPG for? And
where did you find out how much it costs?



--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info

The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm

DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote in message

The dog from that film you saw wrote:

only the humax one - it has the option to switch between freesat
and
the ability to tune into any free channels.
No, the Alba/Grundig/Bush/Goodmans models now have that facility
too.


Have existing receivers had that ability added via a software update,
or does it only apply to newer models in the shops?

No, AIUI there's been an OTA software update.

"Mark Carver" wrote in message

DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote in message

The dog from that film you saw wrote:

only the humax one - it has the option to switch between freesat
and
the ability to tune into any free channels.
No, the Alba/Grundig/Bush/Goodmans models now have that facility
too.


Have existing receivers had that ability added via a software
update,
or does it only apply to newer models in the shops?

No, AIUI there's been an OTA software update.


Right. I should hope so too.



--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info

The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm

DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
"The dog from that film you saw"

i do wonder how many freesat boxes have been sold so far - if it's
not
that many it's a bit of a cheek for them to be asked to fork over
100
thousand ( i think) to be included on an unproven service for a
year.


How long does £100,000 get you included on the Freesat EPG for? And
where did you find out how much it costs?

I don't think it's 100k is it ?

Sky seem to charge about 65k, and that's per year.

http://media.corporate-ir.net/media_..._PriceList.pdf

Couldn't find any such data on Freesat's website, just marketing fluff.

In message , DAB sounds worse than
FM wrote
"Mark Carver" wrote in message

The dog from that film you saw wrote:

only the humax one - it has the option to switch between freesat
and
the ability to tune into any free channels.

No, the Alba/Grundig/Bush/Goodmans models now have that facility
too.


Have existing receivers had that ability added via a software update,
or does it only apply to newer models in the shops?


As far as I'm aware all Freesat box can be upgraded over the air. Unlike
Freeview, when there is an update it is broadcast continuously so you
cannot miss it.

--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

In message , Mark Carver
wrote
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
"The dog from that film you saw"

i do wonder how many freesat boxes have been sold so far - if it's
not
that many it's a bit of a cheek for them to be asked to fork over
100
thousand ( i think) to be included on an unproven service for a
year.
How long does £100,000 get you included on the Freesat EPG for? And
where did you find out how much it costs?

I don't think it's 100k is it ?


The figures being quoted elsewhere are around 30k per year - or about
the same cost as getting a 'personality' to present around an hour of
TV.


--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

"Alan" wrote in message
...
In message , DAB sounds worse than FM
wrote
"Mark Carver" wrote in message

The dog from that film you saw wrote:

only the humax one - it has the option to switch between freesat
and
the ability to tune into any free channels.

No, the Alba/Grundig/Bush/Goodmans models now have that facility
too.

I have to buy a batch of these tomorrow, and I don't know which make to get.
I've only had experience of the Humax HD one, except for one Grundig SD
which died.

Bill

In message , Bill Wright
wrote

I have to buy a batch of these tomorrow, and I don't know which make to get.
I've only had experience of the Humax HD one, except for one Grundig SD
which died.

Bill


There are only two brands for Freesat boxes - Humax and Alba and I don't
believe Humax do a SD box. There are other free to air boxes that are
not Freesat branded.

I believe all the Alba SD boxes are electronically/software identical
with the only difference being the badge and perhaps the price.
Similarly the Alba HD boxes are just re-badged identical units.

Alba = Bush, Grundig and Goodmans

For SD boxes go for the cheapest. For HD boxes either go for the Humax
or the cheapest Alba product.

Bush, Goodmans and Grundig have the .pdf manuals on their (uk) web
sites. All 3 SD manuals (links below) have the same date stamp printed
in the documents and the time stamps differ by 15 minutes!

http://www.bushdigital.co.uk/downloa...IB_Rev1-140308
..pdf

http://www.goodmans.co.uk/content/ug/GFSAT100SD.pdf?language=en-GB

http://www.grundig.co.uk/content/ug/GUFSAT01SD.pdf?language=en-GB

The Humax HD manual can be downloaded from
http://www.humaxdigital.com/freesat/support.asp
--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com