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Old August 1st 08, 01:33 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dudley Simons
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Hi All

I am tempted to buy an LG M118WA monitor which has a tv tuner built in
(doesn't say if it is Freeview or not) and a scart interface. I want to
use it as a computer monitor but it would be really useful to be able to
hook up a spare freeview box I have to the scart so that I am able to
use it as a tv as well.

Anyone spot or know any good reason why I shouldn't buy one of these??
It will cost me £183 inc vat and inc delivery.

The spec is here


http://uk.insight.com/apps/productpr...#extendedspecs


Whilst I am pretty sure it will do all I want as a monitorI would
appreciate any guidence on this as I really am clueless on digital tv!

(I do realise that the speakers rated at 3watts are hardly going to
rupture any internal organs!)




regards




Dudley
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Old August 1st 08, 02:34 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Adrian C
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Dudley Simons wrote:
Hi All

I am tempted to buy an LG M118WA monitor which has a tv tuner built in
(doesn't say if it is Freeview or not) and a scart interface. I want to


The link you have given is a LG M228WA

Have a look at

http://uk.lge.com/products/model/detail/multifunctionmonitor_m228wa.jhtml

And download the user guide.

I've just done that. It has a SCART socket and an analogue tuner.

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Old August 1st 08, 03:27 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dudley Simons
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Adrian C wrote:
Dudley Simons wrote:
Hi All

I am tempted to buy an LG M118WA monitor which has a tv tuner built
in (doesn't say if it is Freeview or not) and a scart interface. I
want to


The link you have given is a LG M228WA

Have a look at

http://uk.lge.com/products/model/detail/multifunctionmonitor_m228wa.jhtml

And download the user guide.

I've just done that. It has a SCART socket and an analogue tuner.



ah - bit of slip up there it should be the M228WA

I take it theres no reason why this monitor wouldn't be compatible with
future developments in tv or more to the point freeview?


regards


dudley
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Old August 1st 08, 04:23 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Dudley Simons wrote:
Hi All


I am tempted to buy an LG M118WA monitor which has a tv tuner built in
(doesn't say if it is Freeview or not) and a scart interface. I want to
use it as a computer monitor but it would be really useful to be able to
hook up a spare freeview box I have to the scart so that I am able to
use it as a tv as well.


Anyone spot or know any good reason why I shouldn't buy one of these??
It will cost me £183 inc vat and inc delivery.


The spec is here



http://uk.insight.com/apps/productpr...#extendedspecs


Whilst I am pretty sure it will do all I want as a monitorI would
appreciate any guidence on this as I really am clueless on digital tv!


I'd say it's very shortsighted buying a TV that doesn't have a FreeView
tuner built in. Other thing is it may well not switch aspect ratios
automatically if hooked up to an external FreeView STB. It may also not be
16:9 - many of these low end widescreen sets aren't.

(I do realise that the speakers rated at 3watts are hardly going to
rupture any internal organs!)





regards





Dudley


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Old August 1st 08, 04:38 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dudley Simons
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Dudley Simons wrote:
Hi All


I am tempted to buy an LG M118WA monitor which has a tv tuner built in
(doesn't say if it is Freeview or not) and a scart interface. I want to
use it as a computer monitor but it would be really useful to be able to
hook up a spare freeview box I have to the scart so that I am able to
use it as a tv as well.


Anyone spot or know any good reason why I shouldn't buy one of these??
It will cost me £183 inc vat and inc delivery.


The spec is here



http://uk.insight.com/apps/productpr...#extendedspecs


Whilst I am pretty sure it will do all I want as a monitorI would
appreciate any guidence on this as I really am clueless on digital tv!


I'd say it's very shortsighted buying a TV that doesn't have a FreeView
tuner built in. Other thing is it may well not switch aspect ratios
automatically if hooked up to an external FreeView STB. It may also not be
16:9 - many of these low end widescreen sets aren't.


snip

I assume that you can switch formats manually which wouldn't be too
onerous given that this is not going to be a main tv set just for- the
odd occassion when I actually want to watch something on the box but I
get can't get near the tv in the lounge because someone else is watching
I'm A Master Brother On Ice Get Britains Talent Out Of Here

Plus it has to be remembered the LG is only 183 quid which doesn't buy
much in the way of LCD tellys.

Why would it be shortsighted to buy a tv without a built in freeview?
Surely if the freeview specification/format changes and the firmware
can't be updated easily (as with the older freeview boxes that have
appeared in various threads here recently) you then have a tv that you
can't use rather than an easily replaced and cheap(ish) freeview box -
or am I missing something here ?



regards



dudley


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Old August 1st 08, 04:43 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Adrian C
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Dudley Simons wrote:

ah - bit of slip up there it should be the M228WA

I take it theres no reason why this monitor wouldn't be compatible with
future developments in tv or more to the point freeview?


You can plug a cheap set-top box and it will become a freeview set at
standard definition (SD). For high definition, the digital port offered
is DVI - not HDMI. Athough you can get cables to connect between HDMI
and DVI+audio, I can't see any support for HDCP mentioned in the manual.

If HDCP not supported (Why not ask LG why not?) then you may have
problems connecting HD sources like Blueray and Sky/FreeSat HD.

Also, being basically a PC monitor with TV electronics glued on - the
chance of correct rescaling of SD to suit the high definition screen
with regard to aspect ratio, image jaggedness, angle of viewing is
perhaps less than with a purpose designed TV set.

To some extent you can get around that with some freeview set top boxes
out there (Goodmans in Argos?) that will output a rescaled picture to
suit the high def screen. Then again, it might not matter. You may be
pleased what you get for the price of the set!

The better less messing about alternative is a purpose designed TV set
with a built-in freeview tuner and HDMI port.

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Old August 1st 08, 06:35 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

I'd say it's very shortsighted buying a TV that doesn't have a
FreeView tuner built in. Other thing is it may well not switch aspect
ratios automatically if hooked up to an external FreeView STB. It may
also not be 16:9 - many of these low end widescreen sets aren't.


With a native resolution of 1680 x 1050 you are correct, neither 16:9 or
4:3. Fine as a computer monitor, far from ideal as a television. Too
expensive for either.
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Old August 1st 08, 06:50 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 1 Aug., 17:14, Mike Henry wrote:
In , Dudley Simons

Why would it be shortsighted to buy a tv without a built in freeview?


Because it's been so long - almost ten years now. And we're now at the
other end of this decade-long switchover process: the analogue-switch-off
end.

But the Freview spec is changing to DVB-T2
next year on MUX-B/PSB-3 and then it is
only a matter of time before the next multiplex
will change. Likely one of the COM multiplexes.

Ofcom says 'Not in the foreseeable future" , but how
far do they see into the future.

Lars


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Old August 1st 08, 08:47 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Dudley Simons wrote:
I'd say it's very shortsighted buying a TV that doesn't have a
FreeView tuner built in. Other thing is it may well not switch aspect
ratios automatically if hooked up to an external FreeView STB. It may
also not be 16:9 - many of these low end widescreen sets aren't.


snip


I assume that you can switch formats manually


I wouldn't assume anything. It might just 'fit to screen' all the time.

which wouldn't be too
onerous given that this is not going to be a main tv set just for- the
odd occassion when I actually want to watch something on the box but I
get can't get near the tv in the lounge because someone else is watching
I'm A Master Brother On Ice Get Britains Talent Out Of Here


Well if you want to watch other than rubbish surely a decent picture is
important? ;-)

Plus it has to be remembered the LG is only 183 quid which doesn't buy
much in the way of LCD tellys.


There could be a reason why it's so cheap. Like the wrong aspect ratio
screen etc.

Why would it be shortsighted to buy a tv without a built in freeview?
Surely if the freeview specification/format changes and the firmware
can't be updated easily (as with the older freeview boxes that have
appeared in various threads here recently)


You expect a cheap set to have a long long life?

you then have a tv that you
can't use rather than an easily replaced and cheap(ish) freeview box -
or am I missing something here ?


Nothing to stop you using a FreeView box with a FreeView TV either - if
there are any changes proposed.

It does sound like you just want convincing to buy it, though. Sorry. ;-)

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