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"Carpy" wrote in message
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The weird thing about these is they are a male socket. Do the french have
male sockets as standard? I can't see it being that way which makes this
socket even more bizarre.
Europe seems to use female sockets for VHF and male ones for UHF.

Bill

"Carpy" wrote in message
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"Andy Wade" wrote in message
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Doctor D wrote:

The French used to have two sizes of Belling Lee plugs (and they may
still have.) One was the same size as we use, the other was slightly
smaller.

9.0 mm (old French) and 9.5 mm (rest of world). France came into
line on this several years ago, but no doubt there are still many old
9 mm plugs & sockets still in use. To modify a 9 mm (male) plug to
fit a 9.5 mm socket, put it on the floor and jump on it.

--
Andy

I think if I put a coax plug on the floor and jumped on it, the only
slot it would fit into would be a cashpoint machine. I'm a heavy
bugger but I'm not fat I'm just big boned (honest).

The weird thing about these is they are a male socket. Do the french
have male sockets as standard? I can't see it being that way which
makes this socket even more bizarre.




Wa-hey - there is another.

My mother always said I was big-boned and so heavier than most. Now I'm
overweight as well it probably explains why the stairs groan every time
I go up or down!


--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com

Bill Wright wrote:

That's interesting because I have some old Polytron stuff with the retaining
nuts and that gear is 9.5, but I know that their filters always had (and
still have) a 9mm coax male on the output end. As a result it is necessary
to fit a spring clip on them.

Yes you're right. It's some time since I handled one of those[*] and
I'd forgotten about that clip.
[*] http://www.polytron.de/Produkte/C7.pdf

--
Andy

Bill Wright wrote:

Europe seems to use female sockets for VHF and male ones for UHF.

Not quite - it's female for radio and male for TV for outlets, and
t'other way round for inputs. (I.e Band I/III TV outlets are also male.)

If this standard were followed consistently only male-female flyleads
would be needed. In the UK we do follow it in part - all screened
diplexed & triplexed outlets (AFAIK) have male TV outputs and so do
loop-thro' outputs on set-top boxes of all kinds. Single TV wall
outlets should really be male too, but five-and-a-half decades of
tradition militate against that.

Some people think that everything should change to 'F' type...

--
Andy

Carpy wrote:

I think if I put a coax plug on the floor and jumped on it, the only slot it
would fit into would be a cashpoint machine. I'm a heavy bugger but I'm not
fat I'm just big boned (honest).

Can't say I've tried it myself, but I was reliably informed (in a bar
somewhere, probably) that it's the standard French installers' method.

--
Andy

In article , Andy Wade [email protected]
xwell.myzen.co.uk scribeth thus
Bill Wright wrote:

That's interesting because I have some old Polytron stuff with the retaining
nuts and that gear is 9.5, but I know that their filters always had (and
still have) a 9mm coax male on the output end. As a result it is necessary
to fit a spring clip on them.

Yes you're right. It's some time since I handled one of those[*] and
I'd forgotten about that clip.

[*] http://www.polytron.de/Produkte/C7.pdf


"Different input levels and unrequested signals often
cause interference in broad-band systems".

Unrequested signals eh?, rather cute name for interference:!...
--
Tony Sayer

"Andy Wade" wrote in message
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Bill Wright wrote:
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Some people think that everything should change to 'F' type...
Andy

Not a bad idea, they have a reasonably constant impedance,
easy to put on, and are cheap.

Steve Terry

On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 00:43:57 +0100, "Carpy"
wrote:


"Doctor D" wrote in message
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Yes please do. I used to use a lot of Legrand electrical stuff and it
was well made. It's French in origin, and about all they use over there!
None of my regular suppliers stock it now so I haven't used any for a
while.

Was this their Synergy or their Tenby range?


No idea what range, but have uploaded a YouTube video which explains it
better than a series of photos could. Check it out here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WI5Gm-o3Xs


That's a Legrand Synergy.
I'll be in France next month, and almost all their hypermarkets and Mr
Bricolage (like Homebase) stock Legrand accessories. I'll have a look at
the aerial sockets and see if it's typical.

The French used to have two sizes of Belling Lee plugs (and they may still
have.) One was the same size as we use, the other was slightly smaller.
You can imagine the problems that caused with my pigeon French when I was
shopping for an install over there!

I have trouble trying to order simple things like ham and cuts of meat from
the French supermarkets when I go fishing over there. My French is nicht so
gut. Christ knows how I would fare trying to spec and order a distribution
system. They would probably boot me out before I could even get the first
item on my list.

Un kilo de jambon s'il vous plait. It's that easy. I always ask for
a kilo as I don't know half a kilo in french. Semi-kilo? Demi-kilo?

Marky P.

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:48:02 +0100, Marky P
wrote:

Un kilo de jambon s'il vous plait. It's that easy. I always ask for
a kilo as I don't know half a kilo in french. Semi-kilo? Demi-kilo?

cinq cent grammes ?

Marky P wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 00:43:57 +0100, "Carpy"
wrote:

"Doctor D" wrote in message
...

Yes please do. I used to use a lot of Legrand electrical stuff and it
was well made. It's French in origin, and about all they use over there!
None of my regular suppliers stock it now so I haven't used any for a
while.

Was this their Synergy or their Tenby range?

No idea what range, but have uploaded a YouTube video which explains it
better than a series of photos could. Check it out here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WI5Gm-o3Xs

That's a Legrand Synergy.
I'll be in France next month, and almost all their hypermarkets and Mr
Bricolage (like Homebase) stock Legrand accessories. I'll have a look at
the aerial sockets and see if it's typical.

The French used to have two sizes of Belling Lee plugs (and they may still
have.) One was the same size as we use, the other was slightly smaller.
You can imagine the problems that caused with my pigeon French when I was
shopping for an install over there!
I have trouble trying to order simple things like ham and cuts of meat from
the French supermarkets when I go fishing over there. My French is nicht so
gut. Christ knows how I would fare trying to spec and order a distribution
system. They would probably boot me out before I could even get the first
item on my list.

Un kilo de jambon s'il vous plait. It's that easy. I always ask for
a kilo as I don't know half a kilo in french. Semi-kilo? Demi-kilo?

Marky P.


Une livre.

Technically seems to be a French pound but in normal usage it means a
half a kilo.

'The metric system was invented in the aftermath of the French
Revolution and was intended to be as unlike previous weights and
measures as possible. When the French government imposed metrication in
1837, the outlawing of customary units such as the livre (pound) was
widely resented. Instead of abandoning the livre, French people adjusted
it from its pre-revolution weight of (what was to become) 490 grams
(17.3 ounces) to its modern weight of 500 grams (17.6 ounces). This
adjustment made the livre compatible with the metric system by providing
an easy conversion between kilograms and livres: two livres to the kilo.
Modern French shoppers do not say "1.5 kilos" or "1,500 grams" but ask
for "three livres." The standard traditional French loaf of bread,
whilst weighing one kilogram, is referred to as "pain de deux livres."
For smaller quantities of food such as butter, French traders and
shoppers divide the livre into a demi-livre and a quart de livre,
traditional divisions based on a half and a quarter that cut across the
livre's internal metric division of 500 grams. Thus, a French quarter
pound (0.125 kilo) is 4.4 ounces and close to the UK/US quarter pound.'

http://users.aol.com/footrule/ysthree.htm

--
Rod

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