BBC and ITV Regions

"Boltar" wrote in message
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On May 27, 12:49 pm, "Malcolm H" wrote:
If you think a neatly fixed 60cm dish is more ugly than a multi-element
Yagi
on a pole at the highest point of the house then there is something
seriously wrong with your eyesight!

Never said they were pretty either , but its a case of also rather
than instead of. Anyway , an antenna on the chimney is bit less
obvious than a large white dinner plate on the wall.

Possibly, but minidishes are small and dark gray, not large and white.

No , they just look sh1t and when enough people have them it makes the
whole neighbourhood look like a chav version of NASA. But then its not
called council house TV for nothing.
I can assure you that there is scarely a house in the land in the £400k+
bracket (Yorkshire prices) that hasn't got a satellite dish. Penetration of
Sky in that social group is virtually 100%, whereas on non-cabled council
estates it runs at about 30%. The fact, if you can put your preconceptions
aside, is that the majority of council house tenants can't afford Sky. Don't
be mislead by counting the dishes. Many of these are disused due to the very
high churn rates amongst Sky customers of that social group, and the rapid
turn-over of tenancies. It also appears to the uninitiated that the dish
density is high, but remember that the housing density is also high. The
normal terraced (1970s-present) council house has a frontage of only 5.5m.

In non-DTT areas many dishes are for Freesat.

Bill

"Malcolm H" wrote in message
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By the way the dish and digibox can be installed for £100 whereas a
terrestrial aerial could cost substantially more. There are no ongoing
costs for FTA or FTV reception.

Sky box costs £97 + VAT trade. Freesat box costs £36 + VAT trade. Dish pack,
cable, sundries about £30. Installation £60 + VAT minimum. So £85 + VAT is a
bit optimistic.

Bill

On May 27, 1:15 pm, "Bill Wright"
wrote:
I can assure you that there is scarely a house in the land in the £400k+
bracket (Yorkshire prices) that hasn't got a satellite dish. Penetration of

Yourshire prices? Well that'll be about a dozen stately homes and
castles then.

However I can find you a ton of streets in and above that price range
here in london that don't have any sort of satellite dish. And I'm not
talking about conservation areas either.

In non-DTT areas many dishes are for Freesat.

That would be impressive given it was only launched a few weeks back
and the receivers arn't even in the shops yet.

B2003

On Tue, 27 May 2008 05:51:04 -0700 (PDT), Boltar
wrote:

... and the receivers arn't even in the shops yet.

Rubbish!

--
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Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather

Doctor D wrote:

Where does the problem lie?

Are we getting the "wrong" regions? I have tried looking at maps but
the BBC's is so poor I cannot see which region we should be in.

Do the regions not know where they are supposed to cover? Do the staff
in the studios think that Reading is as far north as they need go?

Is HW just so insignificant compared to London that it simply never
figures on London-based programs?

Am I wrong to believe that the coverage should extend to the edges of
a region and not just focus on the central cities?

I do accept that Meridian's Thames Valley studio in Reading seemed
marginally more relevant than something from Kent. I also accept that
the bombers trial has mentioned HW a few times - but on national news.

So, when we get fed up with VM and change to decent Freeview (without
a huge aerial, please) or Freesat, what region(s) should we be trying
to receive?

You are within the service area of London TV (Crystal Palace)
http://tx.mb21.co.uk/mapsys/anatv/crystalpalace.php
with Hannington available (BBC South and ITV1 Thames Valley)
http://tx.mb21.co.uk/mapsys/anatv/hannington.php in some parts, and
possibly Oxford (same region in the main as Hannington)

Your local relay stations all relay Crystal Palace i.e
http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/high-wycombe.php

I live near Evesham in Worcestershire and our "local" news is all about
Birmingham - when I live in Camberley neither London region nor South
was any good for us. It's the consequnces of living in the sticks!

On thing's for sure, if something does happen in your area it will be on
London TV before Southampton TV.

Yes - Crystal Palace - we could get 2 muxes with a huge aerial. In the
winter (no leaves).

Hannington - no chance here.

Oxford - maybe but no-one else nearby appears to have an aerial pointing
in that direction.

Local relay - no chance - goes over the top of us.

I don't really expect to hear much about HW - but when even the weather
forecasts miss us, and there is usually nothing about any of the other
"next down the road" towns in the area (e.g. Uxbridge, Maidenhead,
Marlow, Aylesbury, Oxford, Beaconsfield, Amersham) - nor is
Buckinghamshire even mentioned most of the time.

London coverage really does not extend out to the M25 - let alone further.

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
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"Rod" wrote in message
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Doctor D wrote:

Where does the problem lie?

Are we getting the "wrong" regions? I have tried looking at maps but the
BBC's is so poor I cannot see which region we should be in.

Do the regions not know where they are supposed to cover? Do the staff
in the studios think that Reading is as far north as they need go?

Is HW just so insignificant compared to London that it simply never
figures on London-based programs?

Am I wrong to believe that the coverage should extend to the edges of a
region and not just focus on the central cities?

I do accept that Meridian's Thames Valley studio in Reading seemed
marginally more relevant than something from Kent. I also accept that
the bombers trial has mentioned HW a few times - but on national news.

So, when we get fed up with VM and change to decent Freeview (without a
huge aerial, please) or Freesat, what region(s) should we be trying to
receive?

You are within the service area of London TV (Crystal Palace)
http://tx.mb21.co.uk/mapsys/anatv/crystalpalace.php
with Hannington available (BBC South and ITV1 Thames Valley)
http://tx.mb21.co.uk/mapsys/anatv/hannington.php in some parts, and
possibly Oxford (same region in the main as Hannington)

Your local relay stations all relay Crystal Palace i.e
http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/high-wycombe.php

I live near Evesham in Worcestershire and our "local" news is all about
Birmingham - when I live in Camberley neither London region nor South was
any good for us. It's the consequnces of living in the sticks!

On thing's for sure, if something does happen in your area it will be on
London TV before Southampton TV.

Yes - Crystal Palace - we could get 2 muxes with a huge aerial. In the
winter (no leaves).

Hannington - no chance here.

Oxford - maybe but no-one else nearby appears to have an aerial pointing
in that direction.

Local relay - no chance - goes over the top of us.

I don't really expect to hear much about HW - but when even the weather
forecasts miss us, and there is usually nothing about any of the other
"next down the road" towns in the area (e.g. Uxbridge, Maidenhead, Marlow,
Aylesbury, Oxford, Beaconsfield, Amersham) - nor is Buckinghamshire even
mentioned most of the time.

London coverage really does not extend out to the M25 - let alone further.

--
Rod

Rod, for less than £50 you can get everything you need to receive all
regional BBC and ITV channels plus all the radio channels and a hundred or
so other TV channels.

See:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Complete-Satel...QQcmdZViewItem

Installing it is not rocket science, see: http://www.satcure.co.uk/

Forget terrestrial and open up your life.

Boltar wrote:
On May 27, 1:15 pm, "Bill Wright"
wrote:
I can assure you that there is scarely a house in the land in the
£400k+ bracket (Yorkshire prices) that hasn't got a satellite dish.
Penetration of

Yourshire prices? Well that'll be about a dozen stately homes and
castles then.

However I can find you a ton of streets in and above that price range
here in london that don't have any sort of satellite dish. And I'm not
talking about conservation areas either.

In non-DTT areas many dishes are for Freesat.

That would be impressive given it was only launched a few weeks back
and the receivers arn't even in the shops yet.

B2003

Your ignorance is astounding.

"Boltar" wrote in message
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On May 27, 1:15 pm, "Bill Wright"
wrote:

However I can find you a ton of streets in and above that price range
here in london that don't have any sort of satellite dish. And I'm not
talking about conservation areas either.

No doubt using cable, or hidden dishes. The thing about hidden dishes is,
you can't see 'em. Believe me, Mr Rich Kid likes his Sky.

In non-DTT areas many dishes are for Freesat.

That would be impressive given it was only launched a few weeks back
and the receivers arn't even in the shops yet.

Firstly I mean Sky Freesat (as you well know) and secondly we have piles of
the receivers here.

Bill

Boltar wrote:
On May 27, 10:21 am, Rod wrote:
Is HW just so insignificant compared to London that it simply never
figures on London-based programs?

Nothing ever happens in High Wycombe apart from some drunk chavs
beating each other up on a saturday night.

B2003

I could easily agree with you most of the time.

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org

Well Virgin are always doing this to people I understand. Its not just tv,
they moved someone in Derby recently so his broadband location was in
Dublin, making it impossible for him to see anything on the BBC I player.



I was just trying to recall where High W. was in those early days. Thought
it was London fed.

Brian

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"Rod" wrote in message
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We live in High Wycombe.

We have Virgin TV - but have also used analog and also tried Freeview.

With Virgin we get BBC South (from Southampton) and Meridian as our
standard regions. Neither of which appear ever to cover anything in this
area. However, if we tune to London (which is what we would get receiving
Freeview from Crystal Palace) we also get no sensible coverage.

By coverage, I mean mention in any of the local news services, shown in
the local weather forecats, inclusion in any regional documentary programs
or "what's on" lists, etc.

I have lived in many areas of the UK. Often the regional coverage has been
poor. But even when I lived in Wales, Central covered us better than our
current regions. When I lived in Winchester, the BBC South programs
rattled on about Southampton almost to the exclusion of everywhere else -
but not quite - they did mention other places from time to time. (And I
think that might be better within their main area now than it used to be.)

Where does the problem lie?

Are we getting the "wrong" regions? I have tried looking at maps but the
BBC's is so poor I cannot see which region we should be in.

Do the regions not know where they are supposed to cover? Do the staff in
the studios think that Reading is as far north as they need go?

Is HW just so insignificant compared to London that it simply never
figures on London-based programs?

Am I wrong to believe that the coverage should extend to the edges of a
region and not just focus on the central cities?

I do accept that Meridian's Thames Valley studio in Reading seemed
marginally more relevant than something from Kent. I also accept that the
bombers trial has mentioned HW a few times - but on national news.

So, when we get fed up with VM and change to decent Freeview (without a
huge aerial, please) or Freesat, what region(s) should we be trying to
receive?

--
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
www.thyromind.info www.thyroiduk.org www.altsupportthyroid.org