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"PeterT" wrote in message ... On Mon, 26 May 2008 11:42:30 +0100, Scott wrote: On Mon, 26 May 2008 11:21:01 +0100, "The Master" wrote: Dear Friends, I have set up a petition about the ever rising fuel prices in the UK. Please add your name(s) and then send the link onto as many people as you can. http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/u...natures-1.html Kind Regards. I would question the relevance of this to the group but FWIW I will not be signing any petition as I think it is necessary to increase fuel prices to reduce demand, for environmental reasons. It is plain that oil is a limited resource that must be conserved. People will just have to get used to that and adapt their lifestyle accordingly. My daily journey to work adds up over a year to 12,000 miles. Please suggest how I may do the "green" thing and reduce my CO2 "footprint"? move nearer to work tim |
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On Mon, 26 May 2008 13:41:11 +0100, Scott
wrote: On Mon, 26 May 2008 13:26:15 +0100, Andrew wrote: On Mon, 26 May 2008 12:19:46 +0100, "Bill Wright" wrote: What's the point? The governement can't control world oil prices. Oil will go up until alternatives become viable and start to compete. Then it will stabilise. They can do something about the 50%+ they get of the price at the pump. Collect it as Income Tax, VAT, add it to alcohol. What do you suggest? I suggest they do as you have proposed earlier in this thread - reduce their spending. They could start by having a "Bonfire of the QUANGO's" as was promised by Blair many tears ago, but another gailure to reign in public spending is reported at: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3690961.ece Oor they could do away with "special advisors" and "Consultants"to the government - a saving north of 2.5 billion They could save 40 million overnight by doing away with Police spin doctors - see http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3987688.ece I'm sure you will support the idea of scrapping ID cards - should save at least 18 Billion, see: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4590817.stm It's easy to say we mustn't complain about our taxes because without the money what would the government do? Well I suggest they do what any private sector company does - finds efficiencies in its processes and cut its spending -- Cheers Peter |
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On Mon, 26 May 2008 13:57:43 +0100, "tims next home"
wrote: "PeterT" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 26 May 2008 11:42:30 +0100, Scott wrote: On Mon, 26 May 2008 11:21:01 +0100, "The Master" wrote: Dear Friends, I have set up a petition about the ever rising fuel prices in the UK. Please add your name(s) and then send the link onto as many people as you can. http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/u...natures-1.html Kind Regards. I would question the relevance of this to the group but FWIW I will not be signing any petition as I think it is necessary to increase fuel prices to reduce demand, for environmental reasons. It is plain that oil is a limited resource that must be conserved. People will just have to get used to that and adapt their lifestyle accordingly. My daily journey to work adds up over a year to 12,000 miles. Please suggest how I may do the "green" thing and reduce my CO2 "footprint"? move nearer to work tim I'd love to, but houses within walking distance of my place of employment in the Gower still fetch more than 750K. Then there would be the "CO2 Fooptprint" problem of my wife having to do the opposite journey in order to get to her place of work. -- Cheers Peter |
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On Mon, 26 May 2008 13:56:52 +0100, "tims next home"
wrote: "Andrew" wrote in message news ![]() On Mon, 26 May 2008 12:19:46 +0100, "Bill Wright" wrote: What's the point? The governement can't control world oil prices. Oil will go up until alternatives become viable and start to compete. Then it will stabilise. They can do something about the 50%+ they get of the price at the pump. Except that if the put the tax down the oil countries will just see that as space that they increase their price into. tim But as Andrew points out above, governments aren't responsible for the price of oil, it's market forces. They are, however, responsible, in the UK, for the price of products derived from oli. -- Cheers Peter |
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"PeterT" wrote in message ... On Mon, 26 May 2008 11:42:30 +0100, Scott wrote: On Mon, 26 May 2008 11:21:01 +0100, "The Master" wrote: Dear Friends, I have set up a petition about the ever rising fuel prices in the UK. Please add your name(s) and then send the link onto as many people as you can. http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/u...natures-1.html Kind Regards. I would question the relevance of this to the group but FWIW I will not be signing any petition as I think it is necessary to increase fuel prices to reduce demand, for environmental reasons. It is plain that oil is a limited resource that must be conserved. People will just have to get used to that and adapt their lifestyle accordingly. My daily journey to work adds up over a year to 12,000 miles. Please suggest how I may do the "green" thing and reduce my CO2 "footprint"? -- Cheers Peter Nobody should need to travel such distances just to work and do business. I think you are a case in point reason why fuel prices need to carry on rising, and I would rather hope HM Government would do the sensible thing and not capitulate on fuel taxes. Fuel prices need to rise both as oil supplies dwindle and because of this serious destruction that climate change will cause. |
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On Mon, 26 May 2008 14:07:10 +0100, "Light of Aria"
wrote: "PeterT" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 26 May 2008 11:42:30 +0100, Scott wrote: On Mon, 26 May 2008 11:21:01 +0100, "The Master" wrote: Dear Friends, I have set up a petition about the ever rising fuel prices in the UK. Please add your name(s) and then send the link onto as many people as you can. http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/u...natures-1.html Kind Regards. I would question the relevance of this to the group but FWIW I will not be signing any petition as I think it is necessary to increase fuel prices to reduce demand, for environmental reasons. It is plain that oil is a limited resource that must be conserved. People will just have to get used to that and adapt their lifestyle accordingly. My daily journey to work adds up over a year to 12,000 miles. Please suggest how I may do the "green" thing and reduce my CO2 "footprint"? -- Cheers Peter Nobody should need to travel such distances just to work and do business. I think you are a case in point reason why fuel prices need to carry on rising, and I would rather hope HM Government would do the sensible thing and not capitulate on fuel taxes. Fuel prices need to rise both as oil supplies dwindle and because of this serious destruction that climate change will cause. What do you suggest I do? -- Cheers Peter |
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On Mon, 26 May 2008 14:14:31 +0100, charles
wrote: In article , PeterT wrote: On Mon, 26 May 2008 11:42:30 +0100, Scott wrote: On Mon, 26 May 2008 11:21:01 +0100, "The Master" wrote: Dear Friends, I have set up a petition about the ever rising fuel prices in the UK. Please add your name(s) and then send the link onto as many people as you can. http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/u...natures-1.html Kind Regards. I would question the relevance of this to the group but FWIW I will not be signing any petition as I think it is necessary to increase fuel prices to reduce demand, for environmental reasons. It is plain that oil is a limited resource that must be conserved. People will just have to get used to that and adapt their lifestyle accordingly. My daily journey to work adds up over a year to 12,000 miles. Please suggest how I may do the "green" thing and reduce my CO2 "footprint"? I know someone, now in his 90s, who cycled 20 miles each way to work. That's probably why he's still healthy. You could follow his example. You may not have spotted it, but Gower is in Wales - and Wales is well known for being hilly. I estimate that my journey would take at least 2 hours each way, and as I am on a 1 in 2 rota that requires a 1 hr response, then a bike is not really a goer. -- Cheers Peter |
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PeterT wrote: On Mon, 26 May 2008 11:42:30 +0100, Scott wrote: On Mon, 26 May 2008 11:21:01 +0100, "The Master" wrote: Dear Friends, I have set up a petition about the ever rising fuel prices in the UK. Please add your name(s) and then send the link onto as many people as you can. http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/u...natures-1.html Kind Regards. I would question the relevance of this to the group but FWIW I will not be signing any petition as I think it is necessary to increase fuel prices to reduce demand, for environmental reasons. It is plain that oil is a limited resource that must be conserved. People will just have to get used to that and adapt their lifestyle accordingly. My daily journey to work adds up over a year to 12,000 miles. Please suggest how I may do the "green" thing and reduce my CO2 "footprint"? I know someone, now in his 90s, who cycled 20 miles each way to work. That's probably why he's still healthy. You could follow his example. -- From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey" Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11 |
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PeterT wrote:
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In message , Andrew
wrote On Mon, 26 May 2008 12:19:46 +0100, "Bill Wright" wrote: What's the point? The governement can't control world oil prices. Oil will go up until alternatives become viable and start to compete. Then it will stabilise. They can do something about the 50%+ they get of the price at the pump. The British public voted for these taxes in the last general election. The Government (and the major opposition parties) are only implementing the wishes of the people. If high fuel prices are so unpopular why didn't the public listen to what the politicians were promising in their green manifestos a few years back? -- Alan news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com |
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