BBC iPlayer DOG (lack of)

Something strange is happening.

The BBC Young Musician of the Year programmes are all DOG-free, except
for the Percussion one, which has the "BBC Four" broadcast DOG at the
4x3 safe position.

It's as if that one was received off-air, while the others were
encoded from an internal DOG-free feed, and did not get the "BBC" DOG
added top left.

I don't use it that much, but I've not seen DOG-free content on
iPlayer before. I have seem somewhat random choices between the small
"BBC" DOG top left for some content, and the regular 4x3 safe
broadcast for other content from BBC Three.

I find the 4x3 safe DOGs really objectionable on iPlayer - even more
so than on the actual broadcasts because, without overscan, they look
even closer to the centre of the screen.

Cheers,
David.

On May 14, 2:34 pm, "
wrote:
Something strange is happening.

The BBC Young Musician of the Year programmes are all DOG-free, except

Strange, there've been quite a few mingers in previous years.

B2003

In article 7c361084-763c-4354-a76a-
,
wrote:
Something strange is happening.

The BBC Young Musician of the Year programmes are all DOG-free, except
for the Percussion one, which has the "BBC Four" broadcast DOG at the
4x3 safe position.

That was the least of the problems with this series of programmes. The
most important one was that the TV broadcasts didn't give us a complete
performance of ANY of the music - and the music is what the whole thing
is supposed to be about!!! Part of the fun and interest of this event
always used to be to listen to the performances and try to pick the
winner, just as you would with any other competitive event, but the BBC
seem to have completely lost the plot this time.

Instead we had endlessly repeated documentary clips and mere fragments
of the performances with the judges' discussion superimposed, and as if
that wasn't daft enough, performances of the category winners ONLY were
broadcast on radio BEFORE the TV broadcasts which introduced all the
contestants and finally revealed who the winners were!!!

I wrote a complaint and received a bland noncommittal reply that utterly
missed the point, just as I expected. However, I noticed there were so
many comments along the same lines in a forum on the BBC website that
there may just be a minuscule chance that the BBC will take note of them
and by 2010 might still remember what a music programme is supposed to
be about. Imagine the outcry if a sports programme about a significant
football match just showed studio discussion and recorded highlights but
not the actual match.

Rod.

Roderick Stewart wrote:
snip
Imagine the outcry if a sports programme about a significant
football match just showed studio discussion and recorded highlights but
not the actual match.


Even the BBC desk was a bit shocked when I phoned them to point out that
the correct introduction to an article on the news just before the Grand
Prix programme is not "Michael Schumaker Won..."

And that's a few years back.

Andy

I've no idea why under current technology these identifiers need to be
visible anyway. Just seems like laziness and a disregard for the people you
serve. I mean if they were hidden in the data they could be triggered to
see what you were watching and presumably 'seen' in any pirated material.

Brian

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Something strange is happening.

The BBC Young Musician of the Year programmes are all DOG-free, except
for the Percussion one, which has the "BBC Four" broadcast DOG at the
4x3 safe position.

It's as if that one was received off-air, while the others were
encoded from an internal DOG-free feed, and did not get the "BBC" DOG
added top left.

I don't use it that much, but I've not seen DOG-free content on
iPlayer before. I have seem somewhat random choices between the small
"BBC" DOG top left for some content, and the regular 4x3 safe
broadcast for other content from BBC Three.

I find the 4x3 safe DOGs really objectionable on iPlayer - even more
so than on the actual broadcasts because, without overscan, they look
even closer to the centre of the screen.

Cheers,
David.

On 14 May, 17:46, Roderick Stewart
wrote:
In article 7c361084-763c-4354-a76a-
,

wrote:
Something strange is happening.

The BBC Young Musician of the Year programmes are all DOG-free, except
for the Percussion one, which has the "BBC Four" broadcast DOG at the
4x3 safe position.

That was the least of the problems with this series of programmes. The
most important one was that the TV broadcasts didn't give us a complete
performance of ANY of the music

None of them? The reason I used iPlayer was that I had mistakenly
expected to hear full performances in the BBC Two final, which I
started watching live. Having found this to be more like Classic FM
meets Strictly Come Dancing, I thought I'd download the BBC Four
programmes instead. I haven't watched them yet - just played the first
few seconds to check they'd arrived correctly, and saw the DOG
situation.

So I suppose you've saved me the bother of watching them in their
entirety.

btw, was it just me, or did you think most of the parents and
relatives were embarrassed to be answering such banal questions? I
almost felt that they were embarrassed _for_ the presenter.

I suppose it's to reach a younger audience. If so, make two versions:
the kiddie version for BBC Three / CBBC, and a proper version for BBC
Four / BBC Two! That makes the assumption that the potential younger
audience don't want to listen to the music anyway - I'd have thought
the _potential_ younger audience _do_ want to listen to the music, and
others couldn't be tempted to watch anyway, so messing the programme
up doesn't help anyone.

Cheers,
David.

On 2008-05-14, Roderick Stewart wrote:
be about. Imagine the outcry if a sports programme about a significant
football match just showed studio discussion and recorded highlights but
not the actual match.

They'd call it Match of the Day?

On 15 May, 12:55, "
wrote:

[snip]

It's hard to find anyone who likes the coverage!

This blog neatly summarises the responses (with links)

http://onemoretake.blogspot.com/2008...-petition.html

Cheers,
David.

On Wed, 14 May 2008 06:34:24 -0700 (PDT),
"
wrote:

Something strange is happening.

The BBC Young Musician of the Year programmes are all DOG-free, except
for the Percussion one, which has the "BBC Four" broadcast DOG at the
4x3 safe position.

It's as if that one was received off-air, while the others were
encoded from an internal DOG-free feed, and did not get the "BBC" DOG
added top left.

I don't use it that much, but I've not seen DOG-free content on
iPlayer before. I have seem somewhat random choices between the small
"BBC" DOG top left for some content, and the regular 4x3 safe
broadcast for other content from BBC Three.

I find the 4x3 safe DOGs really objectionable on iPlayer - even more
so than on the actual broadcasts because, without overscan, they look
even closer to the centre of the screen.

Oh dear. Another DOG thread ;-)

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In article 81c782e5-3d8d-49d1-b243-
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wrote:
The BBC Young Musician of the Year programmes are all DOG-free, except
for the Percussion one, which has the "BBC Four" broadcast DOG at the
4x3 safe position.

That was the least of the problems with this series of programmes. The
most important one was that the TV broadcasts didn't give us a complete
performance of ANY of the music

None of them? The reason I used iPlayer was that I had mistakenly
expected to hear full performances in the BBC Two final, which I
started watching live. Having found this to be more like Classic FM
meets Strictly Come Dancing, I thought I'd download the BBC Four
programmes instead. I haven't watched them yet - just played the first
few seconds to check they'd arrived correctly, and saw the DOG
situation.

The BBC4 programmes were background documentaries about the contestants with
brief snippets of their performances. The BBC2 "final" on Sunday was live (I
think, though it's hard to tell these days), but the contestants were only
repeating one selected movement from the concertos which they'd played in
their entirety in the real final the previous day, which was not broadcast
at all (unless you count the internet as a broadcast). So, no, we didn't
hear any of the concertos complete, which is insane considering the event is
supposed to be about music.

btw, was it just me, or did you think most of the parents and
relatives were embarrassed to be answering such banal questions? I
almost felt that they were embarrassed _for_ the presenter.

I think the presenter you refer to would be Nicola Loud. She won Young
Musician in 1990 at the age of 15 with a stunning performance of the Bruch
Violin Concerto (which I can still remember seeing and hearing live and
complete). She seems as charming as a person as she is adept as a musician,
but television interviewing is apparently not her greatest skill. I guess
you just can't be good at everything.

And I've signed that petition by the way. I'm very rarely moved to write to
the BBC, but a music programme without the music is just plain bonkers.

Rod.