TV with built-in freesat

"David" wrote in message
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Surprised Analogue and Freewiew tuners fitted.

It would be half a telly without.

Bill

On 10/05/2008 18:24, Ron Lowe wrote:

We got a panasonic 42" TH-42PZ85B native 1080p plasma from John Lewis a
couple of weeks ago, for £1300.
That wasn't a special offer or anything, just the regular price.

You're telling me, it's £973 delivered from Qvkbaf

Overall, I'm well satisfied with it.
Native 1080p, handles 1080p/24 correctly, 3 HDMI inputs.
Shame I didn't have room for a bigger one.

I don't think I've got room for a 42" really, and I haven't seen a 40"
fullHD plasma (with all the items on my tick list) so I'll stick with
CRT for a bit longer.

"Andy Burns" wrote in message
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On 10/05/2008 18:24, Ron Lowe wrote:

We got a panasonic 42" TH-42PZ85B native 1080p plasma from John Lewis a
couple of weeks ago, for £1300.
That wasn't a special offer or anything, just the regular price.

You're telling me, it's £973 delivered from Qvkbaf

Right, but add the JL warranty, delivery costs, and then factor in the
ability to just actually pick it up and take it away.
Sometimes, that works for me.

Don't misunderstand me: I buy most of my stuff online.
But on this occasion, we were all in town, and just to have it done and
dusted was worthwhile.
We came away with a 42" plasma, an ex-demo PS3 for £230 and were up and
running that afternoon.


Overall, I'm well satisfied with it.
Native 1080p, handles 1080p/24 correctly, 3 HDMI inputs.
Shame I didn't have room for a bigger one.

I don't think I've got room for a 42" really, and I haven't seen a 40"
fullHD plasma (with all the items on my tick list) so I'll stick with CRT
for a bit longer.

Not sure 1080p fullHD is actually necessary in such screen sizes, unless you
sit right up close.
Same goes for my 42", IMHO.
But that's more or less the same reason I've been using full-height CRT up
till now.

--
Ron

"Ron Lowe" ronATlowe-famlyDOTmeDOTukSPURIOUS wrote in message
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"Andy Burns" wrote in message
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On 10/05/2008 18:24, Ron Lowe wrote:

We got a panasonic 42" TH-42PZ85B native 1080p plasma from John Lewis a
couple of weeks ago, for £1300.
That wasn't a special offer or anything, just the regular price.

You're telling me, it's £973 delivered from Qvkbaf

Right, but add the JL warranty, delivery costs, and then factor in the
ability to just actually pick it up and take it away.
Sometimes, that works for me.


Why would you want to buy a warranty before the 12month manufacturer one had
expired?
Electrical items are either faulty when you get them or break in the first
year - in which case
the shop needs to organise a replacement and not the manufacturer.
It seems expensive to pay £300+ for a warranty! They saw you coming.
You would be better off putting that in a savings account. Use it only IF a
repair is required
and it would more than cover the cost. If not then the manufacturer can be
pursued for the repair if the item doesn't last a reasonable time.

Don't misunderstand me: I buy most of my stuff online.
But on this occasion, we were all in town, and just to have it done and
dusted was worthwhile.
We came away with a 42" plasma, an ex-demo PS3 for £230 and were up and
running that afternoon.



Why would you want an ex-demo anything? I bet you paid hundreds for an
extended
warranty or insurance for that too.

Overall, I'm well satisfied with it.
Native 1080p, handles 1080p/24 correctly, 3 HDMI inputs.
Shame I didn't have room for a bigger one.

I don't think I've got room for a 42" really, and I haven't seen a 40"
fullHD plasma (with all the items on my tick list) so I'll stick with CRT
for a bit longer.


Nothing wrong with CRT, it provides a far superior picture quality and can
even handle
moving pictures. Backgrounds and movement doesn't cause blurring or
ghosting as it
does on LCD TVs. You can see rain and moving water too. LCD just can't
handle anything
other than a constant display! I was looking at a number of them in Tesco
tonight. The
Samsung looked better than the rest, but they were all being fed with a poor
quality picture
so you didn't see too much of the ghosting and blurred images. It all
looked crap, but to different
degrees.

Not sure 1080p fullHD is actually necessary in such screen sizes, unless
you sit right up close.

People buy them thinking ANY TV picture will be HD which is funny.

Same goes for my 42", IMHO.
But that's more or less the same reason I've been using full-height CRT up
till now.

--
Ron

"Adrian" wrote in message
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David wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message
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Marky P wrote:
On Fri, 09 May 2008 23:39:49 +0100, Andy Burns
wrote:

http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_G...l#anker_733435

I'll be buying one :-) I was planning a TV upgrade this year and
was looking at the new Panasonic range, so the addition of built-in
HD Freesat is an added bonus. And it also includes Freeview and
Analogue tuners :-). Dunno whether to go for the 46" or 50". Depends
on the price difference.

Marky P.

I was thinking of changing mine next year, I wonder if by then
they'll include a DVB-T2 tuner. That would cover all the bases.

DAB ?

Why would anyone want DAB in a television? Radio is already broadcast via
DTT.

DAB as we know it is dead now. Give it a few years and it will be finished,
mainly due to the
poor audio quality and people refusing to accept it now.
Good MW sounds better.

"Rob" wrote in message
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"Ron Lowe" ronATlowe-famlyDOTmeDOTukSPURIOUS wrote in message
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"Andy Burns" wrote in message
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On 10/05/2008 18:24, Ron Lowe wrote:

We got a panasonic 42" TH-42PZ85B native 1080p plasma from John Lewis a
couple of weeks ago, for £1300.
That wasn't a special offer or anything, just the regular price.

You're telling me, it's £973 delivered from Qvkbaf

Right, but add the JL warranty, delivery costs, and then factor in the
ability to just actually pick it up and take it away.
Sometimes, that works for me.


Why would you want to buy a warranty before the 12month manufacturer one
had expired?

I didn't 'buy a warranty'.
I never do.
I'm perfectly aware of the 'extended warranty' scams than major retailers
run.
It's just that JL have that as part of their deal, it isn't a bolt-on.
There is some value to being able to go look at the item, play with it, and
take it home with you.
There's also value in having a supplier that is local and able to deal with
problems easily.
This applies to small specalist outlets too.

Electrical items are either faulty when you get them or break in the first
year - in which case
the shop needs to organise a replacement and not the manufacturer.
It seems expensive to pay £300+ for a warranty!


I didn't pay £300 for the warranty.
I paid £300 for various conveniences.
Like not having to go home and find the same model on the internet, and wait
for it.
The warranty was not the deal-maker.
It wasn't even an issue.
It's just an added plus.


They saw you coming.

Not really.
That's the standard JL deal.
I'm happy with the deal and consider it value-for-money.
I got to take the thing away on the day, and have a local shop for any
comeback if necessary.

You would be better off putting that in a savings account. Use it only IF
a repair is required
and it would more than cover the cost. If not then the manufacturer can
be pursued for the repair if the item doesn't last a reasonable time.


Don't misunderstand me: I buy most of my stuff online.
But on this occasion, we were all in town, and just to have it done and
dusted was worthwhile.
We came away with a 42" plasma, an ex-demo PS3 for £230 and were up and
running that afternoon.



Why would you want an ex-demo anything?

Why not?
What was the down-side?
Having bought a HD display, I wanted a PS3 to play blu-ray.
They were out of stock, but offered the shop demo unit for a £50 discount,
sold on an as-new basis.
Considering that PS3 is not an item discounted much even on-line, I
considered that a good value purchase that would let me watch blu-ray that
day. I didn't have to trawl around other bloody shops on a Saturday, and
that's a plus in my books.

Most of my cars have been ex-demo too.

I bet you paid hundreds for an
extended
warranty or insurance for that too.

Then you'd loose that bet.
I paid nothing any warranty.
As above.



Overall, I'm well satisfied with it.
Native 1080p, handles 1080p/24 correctly, 3 HDMI inputs.
Shame I didn't have room for a bigger one.

I don't think I've got room for a 42" really, and I haven't seen a 40"
fullHD plasma (with all the items on my tick list) so I'll stick with CRT
for a bit longer.


Nothing wrong with CRT, it provides a far superior picture quality and can
even handle

snip rant about LCD
We're dot discussing LCD here.
But I agree that CRT had reached a high level of excellence, and the newer
technologies are not quite there yet.

Not sure 1080p fullHD is actually necessary in such screen sizes, unless
you sit right up close.

People buy them thinking ANY TV picture will be HD which is funny.

That's true.

--
Ron

"DubDriver" wrote in message
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"Peter Crosland" wrote in message
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Plasma is expensive and not long lived.

Panasonic beg to differ
http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_GB/271546/index.html
"if both are watched for the same duration, one would expect the life span
to be approximately the same, 60,000 hours"

So they mention nothing about Plasma being more prone burn in from DOG ****
or watching cinema aspect DVDs all the time, or pillarboxing 4:3 ratio
channels.

In message , Terry
wrote

Is plasma still popular then? I thought I heard it was becoming old
technology these days and not as populat as LCD. Is plasma better than LCD
now?

It's not so much about which technology is better but more to do with
which technology sells better and how many manufactures have pulled out
of the market place because sales don't justify the investment in new
plant.

With electronics there is a history of the better technology taking
second place in the market.

With big screen TVs the limiting factor may actually be the quality of
the broadcast - with limited bit rates and mono sound etc.

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Alan
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