How Will Sky Respond to Freesat

"Nigel Barker" wrote in message
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On Fri, 9 May 2008 09:59:05 +0000 (UTC), Brian McIlwrath
wrote:

jb wrote:
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: Noone pays ?399 for SkyHD! Why would you want a one unless you had Sky
TV
: (any level at all - ?16/month and up)??

: hang on ?399 is a) the price quoted on skys current website and b)
the
: cheap price.. because if you take the subscription route which you
suggest

You are not reading what I said! The SkyHD STB is no longer attractive
to non-Sky subscribers as it won't do its PVR functionality without an
extra
payment. Yes they *will* sell it to you for £399 - but why would you want
it
when you could buy it from eBay from between £150 and £250!

: ive just taken an glance at their HD subscription packages and even the
: 'cheap' ones without phone or broadband are very roughly a staggering
fifty
: quid or so a month.. i can hardly beieve how dear their packages im a
: millionaire and even i couldnt affords that !!

You are not reading it correctly then! I pay £34/month which includes
4-Mix
Sky (£19), £10 HD charges for an *extra* 9 HD channels which will never be
on Freesat and £5 for 8-Meg Broadband. I get the PVR (Sky+) features of
the
SkyHD box thrown in.

The £10 for extra HD channels is optional - for the last year I just had
BBCHD,
C4HD (and Luxe TV)

The price for all 16 HD channels is 55 pounds per month (6 Entertainment
Mixes, Sports & Movie Mix +
HD subscription)
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Are you implying those channels would cost nothing from SKY in SD?
The fact is there is no such thing as a free lunch. The BBC has to fund it's
sat services form some where. Some pundits are asking where that money is
coming from, and if it's fair to the majoity of BBC users for the Licence
Fee to be used to fund them.

On Fri, 9 May 2008 01:20:19 +0100, "jb" wrote:

ive just taken an glance at their HD subscription packages and even the
'cheap' ones without phone or broadband are very roughly a staggering fifty
quid or so a month.. i can hardly beieve how dear their packages im a
millionaire and even i couldnt affords that !!

All subscription packages INCLUDE phone and broadband, so I'm not sure
what you're looking at.

Sky subscription packges including HD, PVR, phone and broadband start
at at £26 per month.

That's if you want to pay - if not, there's a perfectly good free
service too.

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On Fri, 09 May 2008 11:13:40 GMT, (Zero Tolerance) wrote:

On Fri, 9 May 2008 01:20:19 +0100, "jb" wrote:

ive just taken an glance at their HD subscription packages and even the
'cheap' ones without phone or broadband are very roughly a staggering fifty
quid or so a month.. i can hardly beieve how dear their packages im a
millionaire and even i couldnt affords that !!

All subscription packages INCLUDE phone and broadband, so I'm not sure
what you're looking at.

Sky subscription packges including HD, PVR, phone and broadband start
at at £26 per month.

According to Sky's web site the minimum monthly TV viewing cost for HD is 1 Entertainment Mix (16
pounds) + HD subscription = 26 pounds per month. No phone no broadband. The maximum is 55 pounds per
month.

http://mysky.sky.com/portal/site/sky...cesandpackages
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Cheers

Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

Nigel Barker wrote:
:
: Sky subscription packges including HD, PVR, phone and broadband start
: at at £26 per month.

: According to Sky's web site the minimum monthly TV viewing cost for HD is
: 1 Entertainment Mix (16 pounds) + HD subscription = 26 pounds per month.
: No phone no broadband. The maximum is 55 pounds per
: month.

The phone and broadband (in an LLU area for broadband and for the 2Mb
entry level) are zero cost extras. So £26/month for HD, 1Mix, PVR, phone and
broadband is not incorrect!

On Fri, 9 May 2008 11:50:50 +0000 (UTC), Brian McIlwrath wrote:

Nigel Barker wrote:
:
: Sky subscription packges including HD, PVR, phone and broadband start
: at at £26 per month.

: According to Sky's web site the minimum monthly TV viewing cost for HD is
: 1 Entertainment Mix (16 pounds) + HD subscription = 26 pounds per month.
: No phone no broadband. The maximum is 55 pounds per
: month.

The phone and broadband (in an LLU area for broadband and for the 2Mb
entry level) are zero cost extras. So £26/month for HD, 1Mix, PVR, phone and
broadband is not incorrect!

Not incorrect but a little deceptive not to mention that it's not available to all subscribers e.g.
the estimated 750,000-1,000,000 Expats and others using Sky outside the UK & RoI:-)
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Cheers

Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

"Nigel Barker" wrote in message
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On Fri, 9 May 2008 11:50:50 +0000 (UTC), Brian McIlwrath
wrote:

Nigel Barker wrote:
:
: Sky subscription packges including HD, PVR, phone and broadband start
: at at £26 per month.

: According to Sky's web site the minimum monthly TV viewing cost for HD
is
: 1 Entertainment Mix (16 pounds) + HD subscription = 26 pounds per month.
: No phone no broadband. The maximum is 55 pounds per
: month.

The phone and broadband (in an LLU area for broadband and for the 2Mb
entry level) are zero cost extras. So £26/month for HD, 1Mix, PVR, phone
and
broadband is not incorrect!

Not incorrect but a little deceptive not to mention that it's not
available to all subscribers e.g.
the estimated 750,000-1,000,000 Expats and others using Sky outside the UK
& RoI:-)

Who it turns out are breaking the Law. SKY can't argue people shouldn't
"import" foreign Sat systems into the UK if they do the same in other
countries. SKY have a "licence" to supply subscription Sat TV to the UK and
ROI only. Those wanting Sat TV in Spain should either go FTA or use the
Spanish equivelent of SKY, which won't have many British channels at all.

In article , jb
writes

"Krustov" wrote in message
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uk.media.tv.sky
jb
Wed, 07 May 2008 12:04:48 GMT


What will Sky do to keep its hundreds of pounds a year - nine million
customer base - continuing to cough up loads of money for stuff the BBC
and
ITV are now giving away completely free!

baffles me : )

(how Sky will respond - not which one folk will prefer!)


Sky will do nothing different .

just my humble opinion and one i appreciate you might find odd but i
honestly think sky will 'quite quickly' die if they do nothing different


For all people have needed to do in the past was to phone sky and cancel
their subscription to have (in effect) a freesat box and channels .


alas with no ITV HD!

Well, as most of the stuff on ITV is complete and utter ****e, with very
few exceptions, IMO, I really can't see it being much of a problem :-)

indeed no free HD at all if they cancel! - or am i wrong - perhaqpse a quite
rediculously priced Sky HD box is still avaiable - at 399?

There are several FTA HD channels, inc BBC HD available without paying
any extra subscription.

--
Sean Black

In article , jb
writes

"Zero Tolerance" wrote in message
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On Wed, 07 May 2008 17:30:36 GMT, "jb" wrote:

alas with no ITV HD!

The non-existent ITV HD!

good things come to all who wait : )


indeed no free HD at all if they cancel! - or am i wrong

Yes, you are. You don't need any Sky subscription to watch BBC HD,
Channel 4 HD and other free-to-air HD channels on a Sky HD box.

yes indeed... but my point was how much is a sky HD box for a 'freesat for
sky' viewer please forgive me if im wrong but i had the impression that
official HD boxes for non subscribers are an astronomical 399 - when
compared to the the freesat for bbc boxes selling in comet now for 149 ....

Only if you buy from Sky, I've heard that they can be had for
significantly less elsewhere (notably eBay).
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Sean Black

In article , jb
writes
the satellite tv world changed irevocably on 6th may 2008 skys virtual
monopoly of uk satellite tv ended for good.... and a breath of fresh air is
gradually sweeping through tired old sky salesrooms up and down the country

What "virtual monopoly" would that be then? Is there something standing
in the way of any other organisation spending however many millions
(billions?) of pounds necessary to set up there own satellite
broadcasting system then?
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Sean Black

"Sean Black" wrote in message
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In article , jb
writes
the satellite tv world changed irevocably on 6th may 2008 skys virtual
monopoly of uk satellite tv ended for good.... and a breath of fresh air
is
gradually sweeping through tired old sky salesrooms up and down the
country

What "virtual monopoly" would that be then? Is there something standing in
the way of any other organisation spending however many millions
(billions?) of pounds necessary to set up there own satellite broadcasting
system then?

SKY don't own any Sats. They can't control who the owners of those sats hire
out transponders to. The only monopoly SKY have is the supply of subcription
Sat services in the UK and ROI. Freesat is just a rebranding excercise for
UK SAT FTA. The basic elements already exist and arn't much different from
SKY's Freesat service. None of the channels will end up hiring any more
tranponders than they do now once the encryption contracts with SKY end.