How Will Sky Respond to Freesat

somewhat ironicaly the
"Ed" wrote in message
Looks like 'Freesat from Sky' has now become 'Sky Pay Once'

http://www.dixons.co.uk/martprd/edit...ner-skypayonce

For £75 you get an SD box installed, and 4 months of Sky's basic
package. After that you can cancel and have what is essentially a
freesat box, snip

not quite ... no high deifinition for starters and no pvr either

somewhat ironicaly the very same dixons website is showing the following ad
for freesat which you will see tells you to focus on HD.. quite rightly
so... seeing as you doint want to be stuck with a picture on sky which some
folk are saying is actually worse than PAL whilst all those around you are
enjoying all the joys of HD now would you?

have fun

jb

"Brian McIlwrath" wrote in message
...
jb wrote:
: selling their sky HD box on their website for 399 when comet et al are
: knocking out an argually even better Humax one for 149.. isnt going to
: exactly help attract in cash strapped hard working families is it..

But this is a pretty ridiculous comparison!

Noone pays £399 for SkyHD! Why would you want a one unless you had Sky TV
(any level at all - £16/month and up)??

hang on £399 is a) the price quoted on skys current website and b) the
cheap price.. because if you take the subscription route which you suggest
then over a period of even just 12 months the subscription charges amount to
well over £399 by my reconing

ive just taken an glance at their HD subscription packages and even the
'cheap' ones without phone or broadband are very roughly a staggering fifty
quid or so a month.. i can hardly beieve how dear their packages im a
millionaire and even i couldnt affords that !!

cheers

jb


*With* Sky TV the SkyHd box is comparable to the (not even out!) Humax PVR
(reputed to be going to cost £299).

"jb" wrote in message
...
somewhat ironicaly the
"Ed" wrote in message
Looks like 'Freesat from Sky' has now become 'Sky Pay Once'

http://www.dixons.co.uk/martprd/edit...ner-skypayonce

For £75 you get an SD box installed, and 4 months of Sky's basic
package. After that you can cancel and have what is essentially a
freesat box, snip

not quite ... no high deifinition for starters and no pvr either

somewhat ironicaly the very same dixons website is showing the following
ad for freesat which you will see tells you to focus on HD.. quite rightly
so... seeing as you doint want to be stuck with a picture on sky which
some folk are saying is actually worse than PAL whilst all those around
you are enjoying all the joys of HD now would you?

have fun

jb


Getting a SKY HD box and letting it scale SD broadcasts may be the very
solution someone needs to get decent SD on a HD TV.
The extra clarity of a HD set allows you to see poor broadcasts for what
they are. Footy on BBC/ITV is incredidbly bad, but SKY show how good it can
be even on SD broadcasts.

In uk.media.tv.sky jb wrote:
: for freesat which you will see tells you to focus on HD.. quite rightly
: so... seeing as you doint want to be stuck with a picture on sky which some
: folk are saying is actually worse than PAL whilst all those around you are
: enjoying all the joys of HD now would you?

If you find a channel on Sky which is "worse than PAL" it will be a non-Sky
one tranmitting in SD - and will appear at *exactly* the same quality on
Freesat!

If you want HD on Freesat there is one part time BBC channel, one mythical
ITV one which is likely to transmit a couple of hours a day (max!) and
no others (yet!). Compare that to Sky's current 16 HD channels - going to
30 by end of 2009 (which which time Freesat may have 5)

im a
millionaire and even i couldnt affords that !!

cheers


Lend us a quid?

jb wrote:
:
: Noone pays ?399 for SkyHD! Why would you want a one unless you had Sky TV
: (any level at all - ?16/month and up)??

: hang on ?399 is a) the price quoted on skys current website and b) the
: cheap price.. because if you take the subscription route which you suggest

You are not reading what I said! The SkyHD STB is no longer attractive
to non-Sky subscribers as it won't do its PVR functionality without an extra
payment. Yes they *will* sell it to you for £399 - but why would you want it
when you could buy it from eBay from between £150 and £250!

: ive just taken an glance at their HD subscription packages and even the
: 'cheap' ones without phone or broadband are very roughly a staggering fifty
: quid or so a month.. i can hardly beieve how dear their packages im a
: millionaire and even i couldnt affords that !!

You are not reading it correctly then! I pay £34/month which includes 4-Mix
Sky (£19), £10 HD charges for an *extra* 9 HD channels which will never be
on Freesat and £5 for 8-Meg Broadband. I get the PVR (Sky+) features of the
SkyHD box thrown in.

The £10 for extra HD channels is optional - for the last year I just had BBCHD,
C4HD (and Luxe TV)

On Fri, 9 May 2008 09:52:06 +0000 (UTC), Brian McIlwrath wrote:

In uk.media.tv.sky jb wrote:
: for freesat which you will see tells you to focus on HD.. quite rightly
: so... seeing as you doint want to be stuck with a picture on sky which some
: folk are saying is actually worse than PAL whilst all those around you are
: enjoying all the joys of HD now would you?

If you find a channel on Sky which is "worse than PAL" it will be a non-Sky
one tranmitting in SD - and will appear at *exactly* the same quality on
Freesat!

If you want HD on Freesat there is one part time BBC channel, one mythical
ITV one which is likely to transmit a couple of hours a day (max!) and
no others (yet!). Compare that to Sky's current 16 HD channels - going to
30 by end of 2009 (which which time Freesat may have 5)

For which you pay 55 pounds per month.
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Cheers

Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

On Fri, 9 May 2008 09:59:05 +0000 (UTC), Brian McIlwrath wrote:

jb wrote:
:
: Noone pays ?399 for SkyHD! Why would you want a one unless you had Sky TV
: (any level at all - ?16/month and up)??

: hang on ?399 is a) the price quoted on skys current website and b) the
: cheap price.. because if you take the subscription route which you suggest

You are not reading what I said! The SkyHD STB is no longer attractive
to non-Sky subscribers as it won't do its PVR functionality without an extra
payment. Yes they *will* sell it to you for £399 - but why would you want it
when you could buy it from eBay from between £150 and £250!

: ive just taken an glance at their HD subscription packages and even the
: 'cheap' ones without phone or broadband are very roughly a staggering fifty
: quid or so a month.. i can hardly beieve how dear their packages im a
: millionaire and even i couldnt affords that !!

You are not reading it correctly then! I pay £34/month which includes 4-Mix
Sky (£19), £10 HD charges for an *extra* 9 HD channels which will never be
on Freesat and £5 for 8-Meg Broadband. I get the PVR (Sky+) features of the
SkyHD box thrown in.

The £10 for extra HD channels is optional - for the last year I just had BBCHD,
C4HD (and Luxe TV)

The price for all 16 HD channels is 55 pounds per month (6 Entertainment Mixes, Sports & Movie Mix +
HD subscription)
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Cheers

Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

In uk.media.tv.sky Nigel Barker wrote:

: For which you pay 55 pounds per month.

That's being pedantic! Yes, for the *whole* 30 you will pay £55 (more if you
want to split hairs further as some are SBO PPV ones!). I don't pay £55 as I
don't have movies or sports!

Nigel Barker wrote:

: The price for all 16 HD channels is 55 pounds per month (6 Entertainment
: Mixes, Sports & Movie Mix HD subscription)

And you point is exactly ????? Like most things in life it isn't a "take the
whole thing or nothing at all" choice! It's rather stupid choosing the
maximum and then saying "that's what it costs!"