How much loss to a TV station?

Sal M. Onella wrote:

Yes, that's it. No country has ever benefited from bilingualism. Having
large numbers of foreigners come here means integrating them into our way of
life. Mainstream English all the way.

And what does any of that do with having a Spanish language television
channel. Spanish language channels are a good way for "advertisers" to
reach the Spanish speaking segment of the population (a *big* segment
in San Diego County.) From V-Me's website:

"A unique, uncluttered environment for corporations and foundations looking
to connect with U.S. Hispanics."

Fun story from San Diego Schools: Kid came here from Iran with his refugee
parents. He was placed in bilingual education and after only six months he
was bilingual. He spoke Farsi and Spanish.

Source? Urban legend?

I've lived in San Diego County for 40 years, and hadn't heard of that. It
sounds very similar to a story that was part of a mass-email effort a few
years ago, a few weeks before an election that had a related proposition.
You think something like that would be a news story, no?

Please resist trying to plaster a bigot label on me. My feelings are all
society-driven, not racial or ethnic. I speak Spanish - not well yet, but
getting better all the time by design. I also visit Mexico regularly and
have close friends and neighbors whose family origins are in Mexico.

I hope we're OK with that.

Hey, it's Cinco de Mayo. Have a carnitas burrito on me!

"UCLAN" wrote in message
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Sal M. Onella wrote:

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Fun story from San Diego Schools: Kid came here from Iran with his
refugee
parents. He was placed in bilingual education and after only six months
he
was bilingual. He spoke Farsi and Spanish.

Source? Urban legend?

I've lived in San Diego County for 40 years, and hadn't heard of that. It
sounds very similar to a story that was part of a mass-email effort a few
years ago, a few weeks before an election that had a related proposition.
You think something like that would be a news story, no?

snip

Yes.

I heard it on Roger Hedgecock many years ago. He's not uniquely immune from
being hoaxed, of course.

I had no luck finding any reference to it on google.com.

Sal M. Onella wrote:

Fun story from San Diego Schools: Kid came here from Iran with his
refugee parents. He was placed in bilingual education and after only six months
he was bilingual. He spoke Farsi and Spanish.

Source? Urban legend?

I've lived in San Diego County for 40 years, and hadn't heard of that. It
sounds very similar to a story that was part of a mass-email effort a few
years ago, a few weeks before an election that had a related proposition.
You think something like that would be a news story, no?

snip

Yes.

I heard it on Roger Hedgecock many years ago. He's not uniquely immune from
being hoaxed, of course.

I had no luck finding any reference to it on google.com.

Considering that bilingual classes don't *teach* Spanish I have my doubts.
Bilingual classes teach *English* while allowing children to learn in the
language they currently speak.

Wouldn't be the first time Hedgecock "created" a story in his effort to
make a point.

UCLAN wrote:
Sal M. Onella wrote:

Fun story from San Diego Schools: Kid came here from Iran with his
refugee parents. He was placed in bilingual education and after
only six months
he was bilingual. He spoke Farsi and Spanish.

Source? Urban legend?

I've lived in San Diego County for 40 years, and hadn't heard of
that. It
sounds very similar to a story that was part of a mass-email effort a
few
years ago, a few weeks before an election that had a related
proposition.
You think something like that would be a news story, no?

snip

Yes.

I heard it on Roger Hedgecock many years ago. He's not uniquely
immune from
being hoaxed, of course.

I had no luck finding any reference to it on google.com.

Considering that bilingual classes don't *teach* Spanish I have my doubts.
Bilingual classes teach *English* while allowing children to learn in the
language they currently speak.

Wouldn't be the first time Hedgecock "created" a story in his effort to
make a point.


Maybe Texas does things a tad different... I attended four years of high
school which included two elective years of Spanish before graduation.

--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'

I went to high school in Missouri in the late 1950's (long before there was
an immigration issue) and Spanish was an elective there--along with French,
German, and others. Just because a school district teaches another language
doesn't mean that's it's anti-English!

One of the things that I found in my travels around the world is much of the
world's peoples are bilingual or multi lingual. Not us Americans!
--
Gary
Visit Lucy & Gary and do the jigsaw puzzle at
www.under-1-roof.com/PuzzlePage.html


"Jer" wrote in message
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UCLAN wrote:
Sal M. Onella wrote:

Fun story from San Diego Schools: Kid came here from Iran with his
refugee parents. He was placed in bilingual education and after only
six months
he was bilingual. He spoke Farsi and Spanish.

Source? Urban legend?

I've lived in San Diego County for 40 years, and hadn't heard of that.
It
sounds very similar to a story that was part of a mass-email effort a
few
years ago, a few weeks before an election that had a related
proposition.
You think something like that would be a news story, no?

snip

Yes.

I heard it on Roger Hedgecock many years ago. He's not uniquely immune
from
being hoaxed, of course.

I had no luck finding any reference to it on google.com.

Considering that bilingual classes don't *teach* Spanish I have my
doubts.
Bilingual classes teach *English* while allowing children to learn in the
language they currently speak.

Wouldn't be the first time Hedgecock "created" a story in his effort to
make a point.


Maybe Texas does things a tad different... I attended four years of high
school which included two elective years of Spanish before graduation.

--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'

Jer wrote:


Maybe Texas does things a tad different... I attended four years of high
school which included two elective years of Spanish before graduation.

I took three years of Spanish in a small, rural, Upstate NY high school
over 40 years ago. French was available, too.

TJ

Jer wrote:

Considering that bilingual classes don't *teach* Spanish I have my
doubts.
Bilingual classes teach *English* while allowing children to learn in the
language they currently speak.

Wouldn't be the first time Hedgecock "created" a story in his effort to
make a point.

Maybe Texas does things a tad different... I attended four years of high
school which included two elective years of Spanish before graduation.

What the **** does that have to do with bilingual education. Spanish classes
are *not* even close to bilingual education. I had Spanish and German in HS.
Do I call that "trilingual" education? No. Bilingual education is letting a
young student learn a subject (math, for example) in his native language while
he/she is learning English.

UCLAN wrote:
Jer wrote:

Considering that bilingual classes don't *teach* Spanish I have my
doubts.
Bilingual classes teach *English* while allowing children to learn in
the
language they currently speak.

Wouldn't be the first time Hedgecock "created" a story in his effort to
make a point.

Maybe Texas does things a tad different... I attended four years of
high school which included two elective years of Spanish before
graduation.

What the **** does that have to do with bilingual education. Spanish
classes
are *not* even close to bilingual education. I had Spanish and German in
HS.
Do I call that "trilingual" education? No. Bilingual education is letting a
young student learn a subject (math, for example) in his native language
while
he/she is learning English.


Well, yeah, that's a good point, but as I recall, Spanish class was a
revamped English class using an alternate language. It also helped that
a friend's house maid was an early immigrant from down south, and she
taught me all the 'bad' words when the parental units weren't around.
Many, many years drifted by until I learned it was not a wasted effort.

--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'

"Jer" wrote in message
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snip

Well, yeah, that's a good point, but as I recall, Spanish class was a
revamped English class using an alternate language. It also helped that
a friend's house maid was an early immigrant from down south, and she
taught me all the 'bad' words when the parental units weren't around.
Many, many years drifted by until I learned it was not a wasted effort.


I took one year of Latin in high school in the 1950's and derived benefits
from it started then and ever since.
Spanish and French were available, too. A few years later, my kid sister
took German in the same school.

In article , "Gary" wrote:
I went to high school in Missouri in the late 1950's (long before there was
an immigration issue) and Spanish was an elective there--along with French,
German, and others. Just because a school district teaches another language
doesn't mean that's it's anti-English!

One of the things that I found in my travels around the world is much of the
world's peoples are bilingual or multi lingual. Not us Americans!
The reason for this is most business worldwide is conducted in english and as
such, many are taught english as a competitive advantage.