Blu-Ray remains a niche product

Blu-Ray remains a niche product

i was at a local Costco today
and saw these prices:

Sony BDP-S301 = $380
"normal" movie disc = $19
"recent or classic" disc = $27

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didn't check Amazon prices/product, but...

will BD player prices come down by Xmas?

more important, will the disc prices
come down by Xmas?


bill

"willbill" wrote in message

Blu-Ray remains a niche product

i was at a local Costco today
and saw these prices:

Sony BDP-S301 = $380
"normal" movie disc = $19
"recent or classic" disc = $27

=========

didn't check Amazon prices/product, but...

will BD player prices come down by Xmas?

more important, will the disc prices
come down by Xmas?

If you want a cheap Blu Ray player either trick up a PC or pick up some
B-stock from eCost or the like.

http://www.ecost.com/Detail.aspx?edp=41240668

http://www.ecost.com/Detail.aspx?edp=41089638

http://www.ecost.com/Detail.aspx?edp=40597690

etc.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"willbill" wrote in message

Blu-Ray remains a niche product

i was at a local Costco today
and saw these prices:

Sony BDP-S301 = $380
"normal" movie disc = $19
"recent or classic" disc = $27

=========

didn't check Amazon prices/product, but...

will BD player prices come down by Xmas?

more important, will the disc prices
come down by Xmas?

If you want a cheap Blu Ray player either trick up a PC or pick up some
B-stock from eCost or the like.

http://www.ecost.com/Detail.aspx?edp=41240668

http://www.ecost.com/Detail.aspx?edp=41089638

http://www.ecost.com/Detail.aspx?edp=40597690

etc.


Well the prices are not spectacular, and the search engine absolutely sucks.
It adds "other" items to the search. I'd just bet those "other" items are
high profit units,ya think?
If I search for LCD I do not want DLP, LCD results "mixed-in". Same with
other catagories. I just hate sneaky marketing. I can tolerate it for super
good deals, but I sure didn't see any at this place. Heck I've seen better
prices on ram at Office Depot,Adysthemic

In an interview published this month with the American head of Sony in the
computer magazine CPU the Sony man (name escapes me) said that right now
they do not feel they can sell a Blu-ray player at retail for less than
about $400 and break even.
Sony may have driven out Toshiba but they still do not have a clue how to
market Blu-ray.
Unless they get the players in the hands of consumers in the next 18 months
they are likely to lose out to internet downloading and video on demand
services forever.
That means getting a unit out there at a mass price point of $250 or less.
However given the current state of the American economy $250 may even be too
high.
Unfortunately for Sony most viewers are quite satisfied with upscaled
conventional DVDs on their hi def televisions. If you have a big screen in a
big room you are not going to see all that great a difference between a
Blu-ray and an upscaled DVD unless you are predisposed to do so because you
are a technofreak.

"dullpain" wrote in
:

In an interview published this month with the American head of Sony in
the computer magazine CPU the Sony man (name escapes me) said that
right now they do not feel they can sell a Blu-ray player at retail
for less than about $400 and break even.
Sony may have driven out Toshiba but they still do not have a clue how
to market Blu-ray.
Unless they get the players in the hands of consumers in the next 18
months they are likely to lose out to internet downloading and video
on demand services forever.
That means getting a unit out there at a mass price point of $250 or
less. However given the current state of the American economy $250 may
even be too high.
Unfortunately for Sony most viewers are quite satisfied with upscaled
conventional DVDs on their hi def televisions. If you have a big
screen in a big room you are not going to see all that great a
difference between a Blu-ray and an upscaled DVD unless you are
predisposed to do so because you are a technofreak.


I use the oppo player is is great but with the Toshiba Razan series 52 inch
the Blu ray blows away eveeything I have ever seen Just out standing.

S F wrote:
"skip" wrote in message
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"dullpain" wrote in
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In an interview published this month with the American head of Sony in
the computer magazine CPU the Sony man (name escapes me) said that
right now they do not feel they can sell a Blu-ray player at retail
for less than about $400 and break even.
Sony may have driven out Toshiba but they still do not have a clue how
to market Blu-ray.
Unless they get the players in the hands of consumers in the next 18
months they are likely to lose out to internet downloading and video
on demand services forever.
That means getting a unit out there at a mass price point of $250 or
less. However given the current state of the American economy $250 may
even be too high.
Unfortunately for Sony most viewers are quite satisfied with upscaled
conventional DVDs on their hi def televisions. If you have a big
screen in a big room you are not going to see all that great a
difference between a Blu-ray and an upscaled DVD unless you are
predisposed to do so because you are a technofreak.


I use the oppo player is is great but with the Toshiba Razan series 52
inch
the Blu ray blows away eveeything I have ever seen Just out standing.

Wall Mart will have $99.00 players this christmas.
It can be done and it will be done. Some of our upscaled DVD look very good,
better color and picture.




Yup, Walmart dictates to their suppliers to get whatever they think they
need. Question is... is it what the customers need? A $99 DVD player
is worth about what you pay for it, and I don't need anything that isn't
worth repairing, assuming it ever needs it.

As far as upscaling is concerned, yes, regular DVD look better, but
there's still a very noticeable quality difference from true Blu-ray.

--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'

dullpain wrote:

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Unfortunately for Sony most viewers are quite satisfied with upscaled
conventional DVDs on their hi def televisions.

Not this viewer. :-)

If you have a big screen
in a big room you are not going to see all that great a difference
between a Blu-ray and an upscaled DVD unless you are predisposed to do
so because you are a technofreak.

Ack. SO wrong! I have a 40" (1080p) HDTV. The heck there isn't a
difference. Technofreak!? bah, humbug

Your setup must be hurting, dullpain -- if you cannot see the the detail
and sharpness and toasty goodness.

Maybe a bit of laser eye-surgery? (just kidding ...)

winf

Winfield wrote:
Ack. SO wrong! I have a 40" (1080p) HDTV. The heck there isn't a difference. Technofreak!? bah, humbug

Your setup must be hurting, dullpain -- if you cannot see the the detail and sharpness and toasty goodness.

How close are you sitting to that forty, Winfield? And which model is it,
I'm thinking that would be a good size for the bedroom?

On Apr 29, 3:30*pm, Winfield wrote:
dullpain wrote:

snip

Unfortunately for Sony most viewers are quite satisfied with
upscaled
conventional DVDs on their hi def televisions.

Not this viewer. *:-)

If you have a big screen
in a big room you are not going to see all that great a
difference
between a Blu-ray and an upscaled DVD unless you are predisposed
to do
so because you are a technofreak.

Ack. *SO wrong! *I have a 40" (1080p) HDTV. *The heck there isn't a
difference. *Technofreak!? *bah, humbug

Your setup must be hurting, dullpain -- if you cannot see the the
detail
and sharpness and toasty goodness.

Maybe a bit of laser eye-surgery? *(just kidding ...)

* * * * winf

Playing a THX mastered DVD with the ATI DVD software in the PC
connected native resolution DVI to a 50" Samsung DLP set, the
difference _isn't_ all that dramatic and yes, we see LOTS of HD from
the netwoorks in LA, all OTA.

The BluRay demos I've seen in the stores aren't nearly impressive
enough to plop down 4 bills for a player. And since we were 'early
adoptors', meaning the set is 4 1/2 years old and has only DVI and no
HDMI, I suspect it won't respond properly to the DRM so it won't even
work.

The computer world already sells enough stuff that doesn't work right
without the TV joining the party.

GG

Fishface wrote:
Winfield wrote:
Ack. SO wrong! I have a 40" (1080p) HDTV. The heck there isn't a difference. Technofreak!? bah, humbug

Your setup must be hurting, dullpain -- if you cannot see the the detail and sharpness and toasty goodness.

How close are you sitting to that forty, Winfield? And which model is it,
I'm thinking that would be a good size for the bedroom?


My forty is in my computer room. I sit ~7-8 feet away.

I find the size of HDTV and room dimensions and viewing distance to
be a comfortable fit. It sits on a (long wooden) bookshelf just
slightly above eye level.

Model is a Sony Bravia KDL-40V3000.

good luck, have fun choosing your set
- Winfield