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DVD Player to A/V Receiver Dolby 5.1 & AC-3 & DTS Mismatched Connectors



 
 
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Old November 26th 03, 02:01 PM
Filipo
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Default DVD Player to A/V Receiver Dolby 5.1 & AC-3 & DTS Mismatched Connectors

I am trying to mate a new GO VIDEO DVD/VCR 2130 Combo Player to an
older Sony DE615 A/V receiver so I can get surround sound digital
audio in my home theater setup. Both claim to be Dolby 5.1 machines,
but the connector terminals are worlds apart.

The newer GO VIDEO DVD player claims to have a built-in DTS decoder
and will output the 5.1 or DTS audio signal either via a coax cable or
an optical cable, and these connectors are in plain sight on the back
of the player.

The problem is the that older Sony receiver does not have a coax or
optical cable input, even though it claims to be able to process an
incoming 5.1 signal and/or an AC-3 signal, whatever that is. Instead,
it has 6 RCA type jacks grouped together as "5.1 input" and named
after the surround sound speakers, i.e., 2 front, 2 rear, 1 center
channel, and 1 subwoofer.

So the questions a

(1) How do I connect the output from one single coax or optical
digital cable to a receiver which receives the digital signal via 6
RCA-type inputs?

(2) Since the DVD player is supposed to have a built-in DTS decoder,
will the processed DTS signal be relayed to the receiver if I connect
the DVD player's RCA-type line outs to the receiver's RCA-type line-in
terminals, instead of using the coax or optical cable?

Just to add more complexity to this mix, I am going to connect the
S-video output on my DVD player to the S-video input on my TV, and
wonder if this will impact my audio connections one way or the other.

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.

ftt
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Old November 26th 03, 05:59 PM
Dennis Mayer
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Fili...

I'll take a whack at you cabling decisions...

Filipo wrote:

I am trying to mate a new GO VIDEO DVD/VCR 2130 Combo Player to an
older Sony DE615 A/V receiver so I can get surround sound digital
audio in my home theater setup. Both claim to be Dolby 5.1 machines,
but the connector terminals are worlds apart.

The newer GO VIDEO DVD player claims to have a built-in DTS decoder
and will output the 5.1 or DTS audio signal either via a coax cable or
an optical cable, and these connectors are in plain sight on the back
of the player.

The problem is the that older Sony receiver does not have a coax or
optical cable input, even though it claims to be able to process an
incoming 5.1 signal and/or an AC-3 signal, whatever that is. Instead,
it has 6 RCA type jacks grouped together as "5.1 input" and named
after the surround sound speakers, i.e., 2 front, 2 rear, 1 center
channel, and 1 subwoofer.

So the questions a

(1) How do I connect the output from one single coax or optical
digital cable to a receiver which receives the digital signal via 6
RCA-type inputs?


I think you need a new A/V Receiver...
At minimum AV Onyko 501 has 2 Optical Ins + 1 CoAx In.. $270
65W/per chan
Better AV Onyko 601 may have more inputs & more features &
more Power


(2) Since the DVD player is supposed to have a built-in DTS decoder,
will the processed DTS signal be relayed to the receiver if I connect
the DVD player's RCA-type line outs to the receiver's RCA-type line-in
terminals, instead of using the coax or optical cable?


Do not know????

Just to add more complexity to this mix, I am going to connect the
S-video output on my DVD player to the S-video input on my TV, and
wonder if this will impact my audio connections one way or the other.


S-Video is a good Analog Video Connection 480i lines
You will need red & white audio cables out too for TV stereo...

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.

ftt

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Old November 26th 03, 07:43 PM
Gary A. Edelstein
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On 26 Nov 2003 05:01:30 -0800, (Filipo) wrote:

I am trying to mate a new GO VIDEO DVD/VCR 2130 Combo Player to an
older Sony DE615 A/V receiver so I can get surround sound digital
audio in my home theater setup. Both claim to be Dolby 5.1 machines,
but the connector terminals are worlds apart.

The newer GO VIDEO DVD player claims to have a built-in DTS decoder
and will output the 5.1 or DTS audio signal either via a coax cable or
an optical cable, and these connectors are in plain sight on the back
of the player.

There's no built in decoder. If it had one, there would be an analog
5.1 out - e.g., 6 phono plug outputs. So, you would have to use the
digital audio out and an outboard decoder to get DD/DTS 5.1.

The problem is the that older Sony receiver does not have a coax or
optical cable input, even though it claims to be able to process an
incoming 5.1 signal and/or an AC-3 signal, whatever that is. Instead,
it has 6 RCA type jacks grouped together as "5.1 input" and named
after the surround sound speakers, i.e., 2 front, 2 rear, 1 center
channel, and 1 subwoofer.

So the questions a

(1) How do I connect the output from one single coax or optical
digital cable to a receiver which receives the digital signal via 6
RCA-type inputs?

You can't, as the receiver doesn't have a built in decoder. You
either have to purchase a different DVD player with a built in
decoder, a separate decoder or a new receiver. Most would recommend a
new receiver if you want 5.1 sound. Finally, you could connect the
L/R analog outs from the DVD player to the receiver and settle for
Dolby Pro Logic (DPL) sound.

(2) Since the DVD player is supposed to have a built-in DTS decoder,
will the processed DTS signal be relayed to the receiver if I connect
the DVD player's RCA-type line outs to the receiver's RCA-type line-in
terminals, instead of using the coax or optical cable?

No, you'll only get analog stereo sound from the L/R analog outs. You
can 'decode' the Dolby Surround sound encoded in the stereo signal
from many DVDs and tapes with your receiver's DPL decoder.

Just to add more complexity to this mix, I am going to connect the
S-video output on my DVD player to the S-video input on my TV, and
wonder if this will impact my audio connections one way or the other.

No, it won't impact your audio connections.

Gary E

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Old November 26th 03, 08:48 PM
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"Filipo" wrote in message
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The newer GO VIDEO DVD player claims to have a built-in DTS decoder
and will output the 5.1 or DTS audio signal either via a coax cable or
an optical cable, and these connectors are in plain sight on the back
of the player.


No decoder in there. The purpose of the decoder is to turn a digital
bitstream into a set of discrete analog signals, one for each channel. If
there were a decoder in your player, there would be six analog outputs,
which would connect to the 6 RCA inputs on your receiver.

What the Go Video is asserting is that it can detect and transmit DTS or DD
bitstreams via its digital outputs, for decoding elsewhere, generally by a
receiver with a docoder.

You don't have one of those, either. You have what was marketed as a "Dolby
Digital Ready" receiver. Its "readiness" came in the form of those 6 RCA
jacks labeled "5.1 input," which are ready to receive the already-decoded
output from a player with its own decoder. Which you don't have.

To get DD/DTS surround, you need to replace either your player or your
receiver with one that has a decoder. Replacing the receiver usually makes
more sense, since it can then be used as a control center for your entire
system, and as a decoder for multiple digital sources.

(If you inspect the documentation and labeling of your Go player carefully,
I think you will not find the word "decoder" used. Again, all players with
internal decoders will have analog outputs. No exceptions.)

Just to add more complexity to this mix, I am going to connect the
S-video output on my DVD player to the S-video input on my TV, and
wonder if this will impact my audio connections one way or the other.


No impact. However, on a newer receiver you'll be able to switch video as
well as audio simultaneously, making the whole system easier to use.

RichC


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Old November 27th 03, 02:14 AM
Pug Fugley
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You'll need a new receiver, as the one you have is simply Dolby 5.1 'ready'
and not Dolby 5.1 capable. This means that it has no 5.1 decoder in it and
it needs to be fed the 5.1 signal from a decoder using the 5 RCA cables.
Your DVD player (as does most) sends out a raw digital signal for a decoder
to decode..which your recever does not have.

Uprgade the receiver to a model that has a decoder built in.


"Filipo" wrote in message
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I am trying to mate a new GO VIDEO DVD/VCR 2130 Combo Player to an
older Sony DE615 A/V receiver so I can get surround sound digital
audio in my home theater setup. Both claim to be Dolby 5.1 machines,
but the connector terminals are worlds apart.

The newer GO VIDEO DVD player claims to have a built-in DTS decoder
and will output the 5.1 or DTS audio signal either via a coax cable or
an optical cable, and these connectors are in plain sight on the back
of the player.

The problem is the that older Sony receiver does not have a coax or
optical cable input, even though it claims to be able to process an
incoming 5.1 signal and/or an AC-3 signal, whatever that is. Instead,
it has 6 RCA type jacks grouped together as "5.1 input" and named
after the surround sound speakers, i.e., 2 front, 2 rear, 1 center
channel, and 1 subwoofer.

So the questions a

(1) How do I connect the output from one single coax or optical
digital cable to a receiver which receives the digital signal via 6
RCA-type inputs?

(2) Since the DVD player is supposed to have a built-in DTS decoder,
will the processed DTS signal be relayed to the receiver if I connect
the DVD player's RCA-type line outs to the receiver's RCA-type line-in
terminals, instead of using the coax or optical cable?

Just to add more complexity to this mix, I am going to connect the
S-video output on my DVD player to the S-video input on my TV, and
wonder if this will impact my audio connections one way or the other.

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.

ftt



 




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