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"Trev" trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM wrote in message ... Dave Farrance wrote: "Trev" trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM wrote: Dave Farrance wrote: Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording at least eight hours? It's for a video capture application where quality isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from a supermarket would be fine. DVD and analogue dont compute. super long play ie Mpeg 1 Is available on all the ones I have seen Analogue as in only an analogue tuner, I meant. How long is super long play? HQ is 60 mins SP is 120 Lp is 180 EP is 240 slp is 360 and sep is 480 -- Trev You can always tell a Yorkshire man, But you can't tell him much. Been there with the 8 hour DVD. Not so good when after 7hrs 50 mins a lightning flash caused a drop in the mains and the disk was corrupted. When I was doing it there was not any HD recorders for sensible money. I would advise HD recorder and cut recording time into 'losable ' time chunks' i.e. 8 x 1 hour recordings rather than 1x 8 hour as I mentioned before when its gone it's gone. Its not like tape where it would just stop and be ok up to that. Gary |
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Dave Farrance wrote:
Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording at least eight hours? It's for a video capture application where quality isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from a supermarket would be fine. If you plan on playing the recordings back on anything other than the machine they were recorded on, forget about anything over three hours. (kim) |
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"Dave Farrance" wrote in message news ![]() Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording at least eight hours? It's for a video capture application where quality isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from a supermarket would be fine. -- Dave Farrance As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's who haven't got a clue. You're doing it on a budget It seems that portability is not an issue in seeking a DVD recorder. You want long play but via the analoque capture outputs from a camcorder direct to DVD disk - that is expecting a lot on a budget to be able to convert "on-the-fly" an analoque input signal direct to DVD. You would be best capturing to a HDD, but again it would be converting "on-the-fly" the analoque feed from the cam to MPEG. Assuming you will be capturing a type of surveilance footage, and portability is not an issue, such as wildlife overnight in your garden etc. Where a cam is static recording a scene, then I suggest you opt for a budget DV camcorder and if your PC has a firewire port, then you can capture via what is known as "pass through". This is where you connect the DV cam to the firewire port and simple software such as Windows Movie maker, or Nero or Roxio (all are capable) will capture the footage direct to HDD, the only limitations being the capacity of the HDD. Once captured, you can then edit and convert to any format or burn to DVD. DV camcorders do the "on-the-fly" capture conversion, you just ensure the budget DV cam you opt for has "DV In/Out" Only those with "In/Out" are capable of "Pass through" that being, rather than record the footage to tape loaded in the camcorder it passes it through the firewire connection and is recorded to your computers HDD. If you google the key terms: DV, firewire, passthrough you will find plenty of tutorials, or visit: http://www.simplydv.co.uk/index.php http://www.videohelp.com With some searching you could pick up a budget DV camcorder with bare facilities but with "In/Out" capabilities, for approx £100 new or much less pre-owned: http://audiovisual.kelkoo.co.uk/cp_1...e_mini_dv.html (Or type in google search: mini DV camcorders) For what I think you want to do, - continuous 8 hr capture, if direct to DVD the compression required and the "on-the-fly" conversion would be disasterous for quality and probably not possible. A direct capture in high quality DV-AVI to your PC's HDD via pass through and then edit/convert/burn is a much better option. |
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Capture wrote:
"Dave Farrance" wrote in message news ![]() Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording at least eight hours? It's for a video capture application where quality isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from a supermarket would be fine. -- Dave Farrance As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's who haven't got a clue. You're doing it on a budget It seems that portability is not an issue in seeking a DVD recorder. You want long play but via the analoque capture outputs from a camcorder direct to DVD disk - that is expecting a lot on a budget to be able to convert "on-the-fly" an analoque input signal direct to DVD. You would be best capturing to a HDD, but again it would be converting "on-the-fly" the analoque feed from the cam to MPEG. Assuming you will be capturing a type of surveilance footage, and portability is not an issue, such as wildlife overnight in your garden etc. Where a cam is static recording a scene, then I suggest you opt for a budget DV camcorder and if your PC has a firewire port, then you can capture via what is known as "pass through". This is where you connect the DV cam to the firewire port and simple software such as Windows Movie maker, or Nero or Roxio (all are capable) will capture the footage direct to HDD, the only limitations being the capacity of the HDD. Once captured, you can then edit and convert to any format or burn to DVD. DV camcorders do the "on-the-fly" capture conversion, you just ensure the budget DV cam you opt for has "DV In/Out" Only those with "In/Out" are capable of "Pass through" that being, rather than record the footage to tape loaded in the camcorder it passes it through the firewire connection and is recorded to your computers HDD. If you google the key terms: DV, firewire, passthrough you will find plenty of tutorials, or visit: http://www.simplydv.co.uk/index.php http://www.videohelp.com With some searching you could pick up a budget DV camcorder with bare facilities but with "In/Out" capabilities, for approx £100 new or much less pre-owned: http://audiovisual.kelkoo.co.uk/cp_1...e_mini_dv.html (Or type in google search: mini DV camcorders) For what I think you want to do, - continuous 8 hr capture, if direct to DVD the compression required and the "on-the-fly" conversion would be disasterous for quality and probably not possible. A direct capture in high quality DV-AVI to your PC's HDD via pass through and then edit/convert/burn is a much better option. YTC -- Nige, talking utter ****e since 1967. Focus ST3 Discovery 3 XS BMW K1200S NIGE#1 |
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Capture wrote:
As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's who haven't got a clue. snip You want long play but via the analoque capture outputs from a camcorder direct to DVD disk - that is expecting a lot on a budget to be able to convert "on-the-fly" an analoque input signal direct to DVD. You would be best capturing to a HDD, but again it would be converting "on-the-fly" the analoque feed from the cam to MPEG. You've got the bloody cheek to call other posters thickos, when you can't spell analogue and you don't know how to use an apostrophe. What does that make you? |
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Adrian wrote:
Capture wrote: As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's who haven't got a clue. snip You want long play but via the analoque capture outputs from a camcorder direct to DVD disk - that is expecting a lot on a budget to be able to convert "on-the-fly" an analoque input signal direct to DVD. You would be best capturing to a HDD, but again it would be converting "on-the-fly" the analoque feed from the cam to MPEG. You've got the bloody cheek to call other posters thickos, when you can't spell analogue and you don't know how to use an apostrophe. What does that make you? A thick ****. HTH -- Nige, talking utter ****e since 1967. Focus ST3 Discovery 3 XS BMW K1200S NIGE#1 |
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Capture wrote:
"Dave Farrance" wrote in message news ![]() Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording at least eight hours? It's for a video capture application where quality isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from a supermarket would be fine. -- Dave Farrance As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's who haven't got a clue. Speak for your self. Camcorders record DV but the output from the composite socket is Analogue. Like wise scart on recorders is analogue. |
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"Trev" trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM wrote in message ... Capture wrote: "Dave Farrance" wrote in message news ![]() Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recording at least eight hours? It's for a video capture application where quality isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from a supermarket would be fine. -- Dave Farrance As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's who haven't got a clue. Speak for your self. Camcorders record DV but the output from the composite socket is Analogue. Like wise scart on recorders is analogue. Like I said a bunch of thicko's who ain't got a clue. The conversion is by the DV camcorder into DV-AVI format and "pass through" is via firewire in the digital domain. I'll spell it out for you thicko, The connections won't be analog via composite or scart The connection will be firewire - digital The DV cam will capture footage as DV-AVI, thats digital. The DV cam won't record to DV tape, It will "pass through" direct to the PC's capture software as DV-AVI Digital from start to finish. |
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"Adrian" wrote in message om... Capture wrote: As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's who haven't got a clue. snip You want long play but via the analoque capture outputs from a camcorder direct to DVD disk - that is expecting a lot on a budget to be able to convert "on-the-fly" an analoque input signal direct to DVD. You would be best capturing to a HDD, but again it would be converting "on-the-fly" the analoque feed from the cam to MPEG. You've got the bloody cheek to call other posters thickos, when you can't spell analogue and you don't know how to use an apostrophe. What does that make you? Is that best you can counter with - a grammer lame!! ROFLMFAO!! |
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Capture wrote:
"Trev" trevbowdenAT.dsl.pipex.COM wrote in message ... Capture wrote: "Dave Farrance" wrote in message news
Anybody know if there's a cheap DVD recorder capable of recordingat least eight hours? It's for a video capture application where quality isn't an issue, so a cheap analogue-only dvd recorder from a supermarket would be fine. -- Dave Farrance As you see from the replies, a bunch of unhelpful thicko's who haven't got a clue. Speak for your self. Camcorders record DV but the output from the composite socket is Analogue. Like wise scart on recorders is analogue. Like I said a bunch of thicko's who ain't got a clue. The conversion is by the DV camcorder into DV-AVI format and "pass through" is via firewire in the digital domain. I'll spell it out for you thicko, The connections won't be analog via composite or scart The connection will be firewire - digital The DV cam will capture footage as DV-AVI, thats digital. The DV cam won't record to DV tape, It will "pass through" direct to the PC's capture software as DV-AVI Digital from start to finish. Not via the composite output socket or does your cam not have that. Then again not many recorders have Firewire -- Trev You can always tell a Yorkshire man, But you can't tell him much. |
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