Within a whisker of failure

Not a great deal of help or any contribution as to why my access software
thought it was in weird format though, that comment. Its like saying, I have
no trouble, must be a mistake.

Brian

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By the way, I have no idea what has been done to that page you sent as a
link, but its totally unreadable as English, sounding like excerpts
jumbled together compared with most web sites.

Perfectly readable to me.

When I recall the early solder baths with no ventilation just in the body of
the factory and think, hang on, why are all these folk still living and not
just vegetables by now?

Brian

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By the way, I have no idea what has been done to that page you sent as a
link, but its totally unreadable as English, sounding like excerpts
jumbled together compared with most web sites.

Perfectly readable to me.



and of course lead is already in the substrat, it's where we get it from,
ie lead mines etc.

Is not lead the final substance left after atomic decay of Uranium, or was
I reading the wrong comic.

Brian

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In article ,
critcher wrote:

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By the way, I have no idea what has been done to that page you sent as
a
link, but its totally unreadable as English, sounding like excerpts
jumbled together compared with most web sites.

Perfectly readable to me.



and of course lead is already in the substrat, it's where we get it
from, ie lead mines etc.

There's even a place in southern Scotland called "Leadhills". ;-)

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"Johnny B Good" wrote in message
.. .
The message
from contains these words:
[1] Not impossible, just extremely unlikely. I'm not suggesting that a
certain species of goose, famous for being able to fly at heights in
excess of 30,000 feet, couldn't expire in flight and end up in a frozen
state by the time it dropped to ground level during the winter months
whilst the air temperatures right down to ground level were at or below
freezing.

No, what would happen would be that it would freeze at first, then cook
nicely due to the friction of the air. Pretty dangerous I'd say, because
somemight find it cold and think they could refreeze it.

Bill

"Alan" wrote in message
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In message , Johnny B Good
wrote

A brick on a string hanging over the line from a bridge is fairly normal.

Bloody stupid train drivers should look where they're going.

Bill

On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 11:19:43 +0100, charles
wrote:

This problem is well known. That is why products for medical or
military use may continue to use solder which contains lead.

So it's OK for them to bugger up the environment but not us?

Does is really "bugger up the environment"?

I've no idea. I suspect not but that is not what we're being told. What is
the reason for using lead free solder otherwise?

The reason that they are allowed to continue to use lead is that they both
require their equipment to be reliable.

And everybody else's equipment can go to hell? Why should ordinary people
have to put up with crap reliability and therefore increased cost?

What hypocrisy? And what's the environmental cost of people being forced
to throw away otherwise perfectly functioning gear because of one small
problem caused by this?

No-one is required to throw anything away

Really? Have you heard of anyone being able to get anything mended recently?
If you think it's a common occurrence, you must be in cloud cuckoo land.
The ever increasing rate at which stuff is made and then junked absolutely
has to stop, but the opposite seems to be happening.

In article ,
Paul Ratcliffe wrote:
On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 11:19:43 +0100, charles
wrote:

This problem is well known. That is why products for medical or
military use may continue to use solder which contains lead.

So it's OK for them to bugger up the environment but not us?

Does is really "bugger up the environment"?

I've no idea. I suspect not but that is not what we're being told. What is
the reason for using lead free solder otherwise?

Politics? Lack of understanding of the processes involved? Health of
workers near lead solder baths?

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"charles" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Paul Ratcliffe wrote:
On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 11:19:43 +0100, charles

wrote:

This problem is well known. That is why products for medical or
military use may continue to use solder which contains lead.

So it's OK for them to bug ger up the environment but not us?

Does is really "bugger up the environment"?

I've no idea. I suspect not but that is not what we're being told. What
is
the reason for using lead free solder otherwise?

Politics? Lack of understanding of the processes involved? Health of
workers near lead solder baths?

Well Charles I was in the trade for 50 years man and boy before I retired,
I'd hate to imagine the amount of solder fumes I have inhaled in confined
spaces over those years, how much asbestos inhaled from blowing out the dust
from electric irons and other pieces of equipment when changing elements as
an apprentice, and also the amount of blue asbestos I must have inhaled from
broken pipe lagging when crawling through ducts in the boiler rooms of early
1960's tower blocks were our (Rediffusion) distribution equipment used to be
housed.
Although it has to be said that I still keep my fingers crossed, as I hear
that these things can catch up with one more than 60 years after the event!

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"charles" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Paul Ratcliffe wrote:
On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 11:19:43 +0100, charles

wrote:

This problem is well known. That is why products for medical
or
military use may continue to use solder which contains lead.

So it's OK for them to bugger up the environment but not us?

Does is really "bugger up the environment"?

I've no idea. I suspect not but that is not what we're being told.
What is
the reason for using lead free solder otherwise?

Politics? Lack of understanding of the processes involved? Health
of
workers near lead solder baths?


Not a problem in modern manufacturing though (people in danger of
breathing in any vapour/dust should be wearing a suitable respirator,
anyone who needs to be that close to the solder bath is still in
danger from scolding should water or some such like fluid enter the
hot bath, never mind the risk of actually coming into contact with the
hot bath.

In article , Ivan
wrote:

"charles" wrote in message
...
In article , Paul Ratcliffe
wrote:
On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 11:19:43 +0100, charles
wrote:

This problem is well known. That is why products for medical or
military use may continue to use solder which contains lead.

So it's OK for them to bug ger up the environment but not us?

Does is really "bugger up the environment"?

I've no idea. I suspect not but that is not what we're being told.
What is the reason for using lead free solder otherwise?

Politics? Lack of understanding of the processes involved? Health of
workers near lead solder baths?

Well Charles I was in the trade for 50 years man and boy before I
retired, I'd hate to imagine the amount of solder fumes I have inhaled
in confined spaces over those years, how much asbestos inhaled from
blowing out the dust from electric irons and other pieces of equipment
when changing elements as an apprentice, and also the amount of blue
asbestos I must have inhaled from broken pipe lagging when crawling
through ducts in the boiler rooms of early 1960's tower blocks were our
(Rediffusion) distribution equipment used to be housed. Although it has
to be said that I still keep my fingers crossed, as I hear that these
things can catch up with one more than 60 years after the event!

I didn't say I believed in these things, I just quoted various possible
reasons. I, too, may be susceptible to the problems you mention.
(Rawlplastic, remember that?)

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