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  #31  
Old April 3rd 08, 11:52 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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Wes Newell wrote in
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On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 10:13:11 -0700, remysun2000 wrote:

And you need the dash because otherwise, the converter may think
you're trying to tune into the analog channel. (Having three digital
tuners set by different methods helped figure that one out).

Just FYI, The RCA converter box I bought would select the main .1 sub
channel if no other input was given. IOW's pushing only the button 8
would tune to 8.1, etc. I would hope they would all do that, but I
don't know. I don't think any of the boxes actually have an active
analog (NTSC) tuner in them.


Magnavox TB100MW9 does the same;push 6 and you get 6.1.

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Old April 4th 08, 12:11 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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On Apr 3, 5:52 pm, Jim Yanik wrote:

Magnavox TB100MW9 does the same;push 6 and you get 6.1.


That's if the digital channel setup has been done correctly. It wasn't
at Christmas. That's why she had problems with entering 4.1, 4.2,
because the PSIP never found where DT-4 is supposed to be. So she
should check 51.1 to see if that solves the problem with finding 4.1.
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Old April 4th 08, 12:13 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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On Apr 3, 5:52 pm, Jim Yanik wrote:

Magnavox TB100MW9 does the same;push 6 and you get 6.1.


That's if the digital channel setup has been done correctly. It wasn't
at Christmas. That's why she had problems with entering 4.1, 4.2,
because the PSIP never found where DT-4 is supposed to be. So she
should check 51.1 to see if that solves the problem about finding 4.1.
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Old April 4th 08, 01:39 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:33:16 -0700, remysun2000 wrote:

On Apr 3, 5:05Â*pm, Wes Newell wrote:

It seems pretty obvious to me that your antenna situation is the
problem.


I have to disagree. She got a weather channel-- maybe NBC Weather Plus.


Seeing as how she only gets one channel clear on analog makes it very
obvious that she is lacking in the antenna department. Now that may not be
here only problem, but it is certainly her majpr problem at this time.
With a proper antenna, I'd venture to say that a scan with the converter
box will find 20 clear channels at a minimum.

2,3,4,5, or even 6. Anyway, once she locks on, the PSIP should provide
the corrections to make this a one time process.

But she can't lock on to get psip with a lousy antenna.:-)

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Old April 4th 08, 01:43 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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Diane,

If you don't get this working, drop me an email with your phone number and
a time to call, and I'll try and help you. I have free LD anytime. There's
just too many variables to write about.

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Old April 4th 08, 02:05 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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Nooooooooo, I said I get 4 or 5 on analog...only 1-2 on digital

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Old April 4th 08, 04:26 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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On Apr 3, 8:05*pm, (Dianne K) wrote:

Nooooooooo, I said I get 4 or 5 on analog...only 1-2 on digital


Did you try inputting the other digital channel numbers I listed?
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Old April 4th 08, 04:44 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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Dianne K wrote:
Nooooooooo, I said I get 4 or 5 on analog...only 1-2 on digital


If you saw my long post, you should be able to get 6 or 7 digital
stations, covering all the major networks except for CW. If your antenna
only has rabbit ears, those can pick up UHF stations, but not very well.

Can you borrow a standard tabletop antenna with VHF rabbit ears and a
UHF loop with a co-axial connector cable. Get a 10' or 15' cable and
move the antenna towards a window or a spot in the apartment with the
least obstructions or walls between the antenna and the northeast
direction.

Your primary digital stations are (although WQEX-DT 16 is a shopping
channel so it may not count).

KDKA-DT 2.1 CBS PITTSBURGH, PA 333° 24.1 25
WTAE-DT 4.1 ABC PITTSBURGH, PA 336° 5.5 51
WPXI-DT 11.1 NBC PITTSBURGH, PA 331° 21.9 48
WQED-DT 13.1 PBS PITTSBURGH, PA 334° 19.7 38 (post-trans VHF 13)
WQEX-DT 16.1 HSN PITTSBURGH, PA 334° 19.7 26 (post-trans UHF 38)
WPMY-DT 22.1 MNT PITTSBURGH, PA 334° 23.7 42
WPGH-DT 53.1 FOX PITTSBURGH, PA 334° 23.7 43

You just need to experiment with antenna placement, just as you would
with analog. With digital, you do have to be patient and perform scans.
The last number on each line above is the actual broadcast channel #, so
if you enter channel 25 for KDKA CBS in your digital only converter box,
you should be able to get it to show the signal meter for channel 25,
aka KDKA-DT 2. Come to think of it, I don't think you have mentioned the
signal meter reading. Look for it on the menu list and see what you get
for channels 25, 48, and so on.

Good luck,
Alan F


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Old April 4th 08, 04:49 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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I did reply to your email.

I tried entering all of those channels manually.....I kept getting a "no
reception" message.

I called the mfr. of the box tonight....he stated that all stations are
not broadcasting digitally yet, and that unlike analog which may get a
picture in even if it's fuzzy.....a digital station either comes in or
it doesn't. Also that it needs a 50% signal strength to be picked up.

So, I tried again to enter the stations manually...no luck. Then I
tried to auto-scan again. Now there are channels 4, 13, 22 and
53...which never showed up before. (only 4) It is raining
tonight...could that make a difference in the signal that the antenna is
picking up?

Now, I'm afraid to turn the box off for fear I'll lose the stations I
got tonight.

The plot thickens.....

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Old April 4th 08, 05:54 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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I have another antenna here...I tried it before but it didn't seem to
work any better.

It says that it has a 12 position VHF/UHF fine tuning knob. Adjustable
34" VHF dipoles for channels 2-19. Multi-position UHF loop for channels
14-69.

The 6' coax cable is attached.....I do have some more cable
somewhere....would it be ok to buy a connector of some type so that I
could move it around more? Or would that weaken the signal?

I really thought this would be a lot better than the single one that
came on the tv.

 




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