Digital Tuner for a VHS VCR

On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:10:57 -0700, Richard C. wrote:

"Wes Newell" wrote in message
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On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 07:16:50 -0700, Richard C. wrote:

"Wes Newell" wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:12:21 -0700, Richard C. wrote:

"Wes Newell" wrote in message
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If they are still making VCR's with tuners, all new ones must have
a digital tuner. That began in march of last year.

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Not true at all.

If it HAS a tuner it must be digital. There are a number of VCR and
DVD-R units out not that have NO tuner at all.

Yes, it is true. The ones you are seeing without digital tuners were
made before the deadline. Those can still be sold off. Read what I
said! It was clear. It is correct.

====================================
No! You are 100% WRONG!

Recorders may be made WITHOUT TUNERS! Nothing says they can't. There
are new recorders being made today WITHOUG TUNERS!

The FCC says that IF it has a tuner it must be digital.

Read what I said!
======================================

Are you a damned idiot? Do you understand the english language? What
part of "If they are still making VCR's with tuners," do you not
understand. See the comma, meaning the rest of the sentence refers to
VCR's WITH TUNERS? So you've called me wrong, and then said the exact
same thing I did. And why even bring up units without tuners? I would
think it obvious to all but morons that recorders without tuners
wouldn't have a digital tuner.

===========================
You stated:
"The ones you are seeing without digital tuners were
made before the deadline. Those can still be sold off. "

Which is NOT TRUE!

They are STILL being made!

Who is the moron now?

You are. Actually I think a moron is smarter than you. My original
statement is up above, and was referring to VCR's with tuners. And it was
correct. The statement you are referring to references the VCR's made
before the deadline having only NTSC tuners in them. Go back to school,
I'm sure your kindergarten teacher is looking for you.


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On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:26:02 +0000, Dan Lanciani wrote:

In article [email protected], (Wes
Newell) writes: | On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:14:41 -0500, wallygaynor wrote:
|
| Yes, but you cant record using the timer if you want to record from
more | than one channel.
|
| You can if you buy the right converter box. The Echostar TR-40,due out
in | June will have a 7 day program guide that you can select the
programs you | want to watch and it will automatically change to those
Channels.

Will you be able to specify the zoom/stretch mode on a per-program
basis?

I'm not sure. You'll have to wait and see, or better yet, record all as
wide screen, and then zoom the recording with the vcr or tv if you want
full screen. That accomplishes the same thing and will be more versatile.

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"Wes Newell" wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:12:21 -0700, Richard C. wrote:

"Wes Newell" wrote in message
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If they are still making VCR's with tuners, all new ones must have
a digital tuner. That began in march of last year.

===============================
Not true at all.

If it HAS a tuner it must be digital. There are a number of VCR and
DVD-R units out not that have NO tuner at all.

Yes, it is true. The ones you are seeing without digital tuners were
made before the deadline. Those can still be sold off. Read what I
said! It was clear. It is correct.

====================================
No! You are 100% WRONG!

Recorders may be made WITHOUT TUNERS! Nothing says they can't.
There are new recorders being made today WITHOUG TUNERS!

The FCC says that IF it has a tuner it must be digital.

Read what I said!
======================================



store can still SELL TVs/VCRs/etc. (old stock) with analog tuners,they must
be LABELLED as such,and NEW manufactured TVs/VCRs/etc. must have the
digital tuners.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Set up an NTSC camera to watch your HD screen, and connect it the VCR!

Or, y'know, do what some of the other guys said, whatever.

J.


On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:46:43 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Hello. Recently, I bought a Sony HDTV. Specifically, I bought the
following TV:

40-inch Bravia S Series LCD Flat Panel HDTV, model number KDL-40S3000


Also, I have a Sony VCR with the model number SLV-N750.


The HDTV, of course, has a tuner that can receive digital channels
(channels such as 32.1, 46.2, etc.) --- channels with decimal points
in them. The HDTV also has an analog tuner.

However, the VCR has ONLY an analog tuner. The VCR can record only the
"whole-number" channels, channels that do not have decimal points in
them (channels such as 2, 5, 7, etc.).

Is it possible for me to buy a digital tuner to add to my Sony VCR?

Or, is it possible for me to buy a new VCR with a built-in digital
tuner?

Thanks for any information.

In article [email protected], (Wes Newell) writes:
| On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:26:02 +0000, Dan Lanciani wrote:
|
| In article [email protected], (Wes
| Newell) writes: | On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:14:41 -0500, wallygaynor wrote:
| |
| | Yes, but you cant record using the timer if you want to record from
| more | than one channel.
| |
| | You can if you buy the right converter box. The Echostar TR-40,due out
| in | June will have a 7 day program guide that you can select the
| programs you | want to watch and it will automatically change to those
| Channels.
|
| Will you be able to specify the zoom/stretch mode on a per-program
| basis?
|
| I'm not sure. You'll have to wait and see, or better yet, record all as
| wide screen, and then zoom the recording with the vcr or tv if you want
| full screen.

Neither my VCR (or DVR for that matter) nor TVs have that ability. Of
course, I could get a new DVR but then I wouldn't need the converter.

Dan Lanciani
[email protected]*com

wrote:
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:16:53 -0400, Bill R
wrote:

wrote:

The government should be required to replace
the tuner in every vcr manufactured since the 1980's

Wally
Reading the newsgroups you really see a lot of dumb stuff posted. Wally,
THAT post has to qualify as one of the most stupid posts of 2008.

Who do you think pays for everything that the government does?

I dont recall voting to allow the govt. to eliminate analog tv
stations, nor did I vote for the politicians who are allowing it.
And even if all the money comes from us taxpayers, we'll get more
benefit from vcr tuners than if the govt uses our money for a war most
of us disapprove.

But much of the money is NOT coming from taxpayers. The govt is going
to make a substantial profit from selling these airwaves to the
cellphone companies, who in turn will make a huge profit themselves by
making sure that every child in school will have a cellphone to
disrupt their education.

The main reason there is not enough airspace for cellphones is because
the majority of cellphone use is minors using them for texting, games,
and other useless nonsense. Of course the cellphone companies dont
care. They just watch the money roll in and laugh.

Why should we all have to give up our analog tv reception so cellphone
companies can make a killing, while polluting our children? The
answer is simple, both the cell companies and the government will make
a huge fortune.

And who do you think elects these govt. idiots that keep ruining
America. It's surely not the citizens.... We just pay for the phony
campaigns and the billions of dollars during the hullabaloo when all
the electees throw huge expensive parties using our tax dollars.


Wally, you've got it all figured out. Conspiracy here, scam there, kids
running in the house with sharp sticks in their hands, dogs and cats
sleeping together... I think it's just amazing how much stuff you figure
out while standing out on a ledge. Hint: jump

--
jer
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 04:08:03 -0500, wallygaynor wrote:

I dont recall voting to allow the govt. to eliminate analog tv stations,
nor did I vote for the politicians who are allowing it. And even if all
the money comes from us taxpayers, we'll get more benefit from vcr
tuners than if the govt uses our money for a war most of us disapprove.

Why in the world would you want to keep crappy NTSC? I switched to digital
ATSC over 3 years ago and now I can watch twice as many channels as before
and the picture quality is ten times better.

But much of the money is NOT coming from taxpayers. The govt is going
to make a substantial profit from selling these airwaves to the
cellphone companies, who in turn will make a huge profit themselves by
making sure that every child in school will have a cellphone to disrupt
their education.

The ever optimist I see.:-)

The main reason there is not enough airspace for cellphones is because
the majority of cellphone use is minors using them for texting, games,
and other useless nonsense. Of course the cellphone companies dont
care. They just watch the money roll in and laugh.

I've never owned a cellphone nor plan to. I think it should be against the
law to use them while driving. But if some parent what's there kids to
have them for safety reasons I can certainly understand that. My wife was
given one and the minutes expired on it before she ever used one. But you
can still call 911 with it, which makes it worthwhile. She keeps it in the
car for emergencies.

Why should we all have to give up our analog tv reception so cellphone
companies can make a killing, while polluting our children? The answer
is simple, both the cell companies and the government will make a huge
fortune.

So what. You're getting something much better in return. So quit bitching
and switch. You'll be happy when you do.

And who do you think elects these govt. idiots that keep ruining
America. It's surely not the citizens.... We just pay for the phony
campaigns and the billions of dollars during the hullabaloo when all the
electees throw huge expensive parties using our tax dollars.

I don't think much of our elected officials either, but they got this
right. NTSC has needed to be replaced for years.

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In article ,
says...
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:16:53 -0400, Bill R
wrote:

wrote:

The government should be required to replace
the tuner in every vcr manufactured since the 1980's

Wally

Reading the newsgroups you really see a lot of dumb stuff posted. Wally,
THAT post has to qualify as one of the most stupid posts of 2008.

Who do you think pays for everything that the government does?

I dont recall voting to allow the govt. to eliminate analog tv
stations, nor did I vote for the politicians who are allowing it.
And even if all the money comes from us taxpayers, we'll get more
benefit from vcr tuners than if the govt uses our money for a war most
of us disapprove.

If you don't vote, don't bitch. Your representatives voted for the
whole package.

But much of the money is NOT coming from taxpayers. The govt is going
to make a substantial profit from selling these airwaves to the
cellphone companies, who in turn will make a huge profit themselves by
making sure that every child in school will have a cellphone to
disrupt their education.

Sucks to have no control over your children, eh?

The main reason there is not enough airspace for cellphones is because
the majority of cellphone use is minors using them for texting, games,
and other useless nonsense. Of course the cellphone companies dont
care. They just watch the money roll in and laugh.

What's it to you what *OTHER* people do with _their_ money? No one,
other than the government, is forcing you to fork over your cash.

Why should we all have to give up our analog tv reception so cellphone
companies can make a killing, while polluting our children? The
answer is simple, both the cell companies and the government will make
a huge fortune.

Sure, the answer is simple. Make you king! I do believe the other
299,999,999 of us would have a bigger problem with that, though.

And who do you think elects these govt. idiots that keep ruining
America. It's surely not the citizens.... We just pay for the phony
campaigns and the billions of dollars during the hullabaloo when all
the electees throw huge expensive parties using our tax dollars.

Yeah, your public schools sucked too.

--
Keith

"Wes Newell" wrote in message
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If they are still making VCR's with tuners, all new ones must have
a digital tuner. That began in march of last year.

===============================
Not true at all.

If it HAS a tuner it must be digital. There are a number of VCR and
DVD-R units out not that have NO tuner at all.

Yes, it is true. The ones you are seeing without digital tuners were
made before the deadline. Those can still be sold off. Read what I
said! It was clear. It is correct.

====================================
No! You are 100% WRONG!

Recorders may be made WITHOUT TUNERS! Nothing says they can't. There
are new recorders being made today WITHOUG TUNERS!

The FCC says that IF it has a tuner it must be digital.

Read what I said!
======================================

Are you a damned idiot? Do you understand the english language? What
part of "If they are still making VCR's with tuners," do you not
understand. See the comma, meaning the rest of the sentence refers to
VCR's WITH TUNERS? So you've called me wrong, and then said the exact
same thing I did. And why even bring up units without tuners? I would
think it obvious to all but morons that recorders without tuners
wouldn't have a digital tuner.

===========================
You stated:
"The ones you are seeing without digital tuners were
made before the deadline. Those can still be sold off. "

Which is NOT TRUE!

They are STILL being made!

Who is the moron now?

You are. Actually I think a moron is smarter than you. My original
statement is up above, and was referring to VCR's with tuners. And it was
correct. The statement you are referring to references the VCR's made
before the deadline having only NTSC tuners in them. Go back to school,
I'm sure your kindergarten teacher is looking for you.


========================================
There you did it again!

The ones I am talking about were NOT made before the deadline!
They are made TODAY (and tomorrow).
They have NO TUNERS IN THEM!!! not even an NTSC tuner!

They can be made, they will be made, they are in complete compliance with
the rulings.

The rulings apply ONLY to items WITH a tuner in them!
If they HAVE a tuner it must be ATSC now.
They CAN be made with NO tuner! They are still being made that way.

Can you read at all???

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"Richard C." wrote in
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"Wes Newell" wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:12:21 -0700, Richard C. wrote:

"Wes Newell" wrote in message
news:[email protected]


If they are still making VCR's with tuners, all new ones must have
a digital tuner. That began in march of last year.

===============================
Not true at all.

If it HAS a tuner it must be digital. There are a number of VCR and
DVD-R units out not that have NO tuner at all.

Yes, it is true. The ones you are seeing without digital tuners were
made before the deadline. Those can still be sold off. Read what I
said! It was clear. It is correct.

====================================
No! You are 100% WRONG!

Recorders may be made WITHOUT TUNERS! Nothing says they can't.
There are new recorders being made today WITHOUG TUNERS!

The FCC says that IF it has a tuner it must be digital.

Read what I said!
======================================



store can still SELL TVs/VCRs/etc. (old stock) with analog tuners,they
must
be LABELLED as such,and NEW manufactured TVs/VCRs/etc. must have the
digital tuners.

================================
But the point I was making is that they do not have to have ANY tuner it
them.
There are ones available right now (and being made right now) with NO tuner.

That is the ones I was talking about and which Wes does not seem to
understand.

These are not OLD STOCK!
They are brand new and have no tuner of any kind. They can be made and
sold that way.