BBC3 insults viewers once again with DOG **** reply

On 15 Mar, 18:29, maffster wrote:
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On 14 Mar, 21:49, "Agamemnon" wrote:

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On Mar 14, 3:31 pm, "ChrisM" wrote:

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Mac users have very strong brand loyalty. There is the famous "Cult of
Mac" idea that Mac users are akin to religious zealots, who wait for
the 6 monthly Keynote speech by Steve Jobs; these idol worshippers who
will buy whatever Apple produces, branded with the Apple logo.

So, once the "Cult of BBC Three" emerges, the channel's logo will be
indispensible... No doubt such a 'cult' wouldn't be "famous" if it
were a common phenomenon across brands.

People take onboard suggestions. They go with what they are familiar
with. There is such thing as brand loyalty and halo effects. People do
respond to advertising.

This is true. It is, however, a phenomenon whose impact and generality
can be overstated. Yes, publicly visible status symbols like cars,
clothes, phones (and indeed iPods) can generate kudos, for precisely
that reason - they are publicly visible. They make a statement without
the bearer needing to interject into conversation "Hey, you know that
Torchwood thing? I watched it on *BBC Three* last night. How cool is
that, man?" While there may be a segment of the population that thinks
"hey, you got a Mac? You are sooo cool, man, I mean all that rebelling
against Bill Gates is teh nutz!", by and large computers don't fall
into that category - after the public revelation that I bought a
Compaq I don't imagine Dell users peering down their noses at me or
those with an Acer feeling inadequate. TV channels likewise don't fit
the mould - I think MTV is the only channel that had any success
marketing itself for the 'cool' value, and that success was mostly due
to its subject matter, the sorts of new music that kids talk about
anyway. There's no statement to be made by watching BBC Three (or
whatever) as a channel, as opposed to watching specific programmes for
their content.

Lots of purchasing decisions are made by people not based on the
quality or suitability of a product but on the image that it will then
give them.
Cars, clothes, phones are all good examples.

Cars, clothes and phones are all mostly up to the task regardless of
brand, everyday items where having the highest quality isn't critical
(even in a professional context in most cases). Simply put, the only
basis on which to distinguish a lot of identikit products of this sort
is the brand name. But you won't find anyone kitting up for an
expedition buying Alpine Lowe or Berghaus because they're cool, only
because they're demonstrably up to the tasks they'll be used for, and
many other brands might not cut it. When selecting a camera or
microphone for my professional work, technical specifications are key.
Brand loyalty only comes into its own when more important factors are
excluded from the analysis.

And this, of course, is where we get to an analogue of the situation
with TV. TV channels are qualitatively different, in a similar way to
rucksacks or cameras, as they show different programmes and differ in
their schedules. BBC Three isn't just a clone of what's on E4 with a
Mercedes rather than a BMW logo, it offers something different. And
hence pragmatic concerns take priority over brand loyalty ("Well, I
see a lot of BBC Three and don't watch much E4, but E4's showing Star
Trek while BBC Three has something about fat kids whining. So I think
I'll watch E4 instead").

Ah, that's it!
Apple have cleverly used the success of the iPod to help raise their
brand awareness, with the result that sales of their computers have
increased.

I noted something telling on the advert - one of the selling points
raised was that playlists etc. followed the same format as on iPods
(bloody annoying, too - Media Player had a much better system before
Microsoft played copycat and adopted an Apple-like playlist system).
While it's not a strict compatibility issue, as I touched on it's a
way of selling Macs to iPod owners on the basis of practical
convenience rather than branding.

How does this relate to the DOG?

TV companies are using DOGs to create branding and identity with their
target audience.
You may not like them (and for that matter neither do I) but I can
understand the motivation behind them being used,

So can I. I suspect, however, that the motivation is misguided as it's
based on cloning what appears to be successful marketing in other
media without understanding (a) the circumstances in which branding is
most effective, and hence why it works, and (b) that different forms
of branding suit different media. I've no objection at all to the BBC
or any other channel trying to hype its products, but focusing on
trying to sell channels to their viewers rather than programmes is
misguided and I don't think it reflects the way most viewers consume
this particular product.

Incidentally, I missed responding to the first bit of your post before
I chopped it, but when I've seen and used Macs in offices and
libraries (all within the last ten years, and in one case last year),
they've all had monitors like old-fashioned PCs, sometimes dayglo
(though the last batch was white), and all the clumsy operating system
with the slide bar at the bottom of the screen.

Phil

Agamemnon wrote:

And why the **** would I want to stalk a greasy registered sex
offender like you?

Since I'm not and never have been it's clear you are talking out of your
racist kolofiliak pig ****ing arse and a liar.

Sure.

Beast.

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marc

"If your dog were to mount your cat and penetrate its anus that would
still be rape even if your cat consented to it." -- Aggy

"There are no such things as witches, and homosexuality is a choice of
how to masturbate. -- Aggy"

Agamemnon wrote:

And why the **** would I want to stalk a greasy registered sex
offender like you?

This lie is coming from you a convicted child rapist and perjurer.


Your second answer to the same post. Must have struck a nerve.

Where and when was I convicted, Aggy?

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marc

"If your dog were to mount your cat and penetrate its anus that would
still be rape even if your cat consented to it." -- Aggy

"There are no such things as witches, and homosexuality is a choice of
how to masturbate. -- Aggy"

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The above troll came to you from

Is that for the benefit of your God who hates to be blasphemed?

Isn't he (or she) supposed to be all knowing?


Excuse me but do you expect Christ Jesus to be on the Internet?

Why ever not?


Because would have to be IP connected.

POPPYCOCK! He omnipresent. If Jesus Christ is not on the internet then
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not omnipresent, and if he can't connect then he's not omnipotent. You are
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BLASPHEMER!


Ag, you should examine the heretic. I doubt bt.com has
a connection going into Heaven.

You are the heretic. You deny Jesus Christ's omnipresence and omnipotence.
You think his is impotent.

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The above troll came to you from

Is that for the benefit of your God who hates to be blasphemed?

Isn't he (or she) supposed to be all knowing?


Excuse me but do you expect Christ Jesus to be on the Internet?

Why ever not?


Because would have to be IP connected.

POPPYCOCK! He omnipresent. If Jesus Christ is not on the internet then
he's
not omnipresent, and if he can't connect then he's not omnipotent. You are
a
BLASPHEMER!


Ag, you should examine the heretic. I doubt bt.com has
a connection going into Heaven.

You are the heretic. You deny Jesus Christ's omnipresence and omnipotence.
You think his is impotent.


And you believe that Jesus is not part of the Holy Trinity.
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On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:07:08 +0000 (UTC),
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Jesus Christ wrote:


The above troll came to you from

Is that for the benefit of your God who hates to be blasphemed?

Isn't he (or she) supposed to be all knowing?


Excuse me but do you expect Christ Jesus to be on the Internet?

Why ever not?


Because would have to be IP connected.

POPPYCOCK! He omnipresent. If Jesus Christ is not on the internet then
he's
not omnipresent, and if he can't connect then he's not omnipotent. You
are
a
BLASPHEMER!


Ag, you should examine the heretic. I doubt bt.com has
a connection going into Heaven.

You are the heretic. You deny Jesus Christ's omnipresence and
omnipotence.
You think his is impotent.


And you believe that Jesus is not part of the Holy Trinity.
--
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This is Ici
God, Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising!
Time for the U.S.A. to vote on a referendum to dissolve its nation!

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Kay Robinson wrote:
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:07:08 +0000 (UTC),
(The Doctor) sharpened a new quill and scratched:

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Agamemnon wrote:

"The Doctor" wrote in message
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Jesus Christ wrote:


The above troll came to you from

Is that for the benefit of your God who hates to be blasphemed?

Isn't he (or she) supposed to be all knowing?


Excuse me but do you expect Christ Jesus to be on the Internet?

Why ever not?


Because would have to be IP connected.

POPPYCOCK! He omnipresent. If Jesus Christ is not on the internet then
he's
not omnipresent, and if he can't connect then he's not omnipotent. You
are
a
BLASPHEMER!


Ag, you should examine the heretic. I doubt bt.com has
a connection going into Heaven.

You are the heretic. You deny Jesus Christ's omnipresence and omnipotence.
You think his is impotent.


And you believe that Jesus is not part of the Holy Trinity.

WRONG!

The Holy Trinity is Jehovah, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. The first two
are historical persons and the last is the mathematical fabric of the
Multiverse which they are part of and together they are one.

Agamemnon wrote:


The Holy Trinity is Jehovah, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. The first
two are historical persons and the last is the mathematical fabric of
the Multiverse which they are part of and together they are one.



Cheers and all that pal but I reckon you do me more harm than good so
leave it out OK?

Jesus

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Agamemnon wrote:


The Holy Trinity is Jehovah, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. The first
two are historical persons and the last is the mathematical fabric of the
Multiverse which they are part of and together they are one.



Cheers and all that pal but I reckon you do me more harm than good so
leave it out OK?

Jesus

Another BLASPHEMER!

In article , Edster wrote:
Excuse me but do you expect Christ Jesus to be on the Internet?

It will be a common name in some countries.

I once sold some computer parts to Jesus on Ebay.

He lives in Spain.

Rod.