My latest reply to BBC3 about the DOG

Since you have completely ignored the main issue of my complaint which was
that the new DOG has made BBC3 totally unwatchable I will not be watching
anything on BBC3 again that contains a DOG, and I expect most other viewers
will do the same thing. Your claim that the brightness has been reduced to
70% transparency is completely disingenuous since the DOG looks exactly the
same brightness and as distracting as it was before and during dark scenes
in a program still looks as bright as the sun. On top of that the fact that
it is coloured bright purple makes it impossible to ignore it and ruins the
programmes it is on.

Stop insulting the intelligence of your viewers who know perfectly well
which channel they are watching and what is coming up next by pressing the
Info or EPG button on their remote control and stop trying to copy
commercial television.

YOUR TARGET AUDIENCE DOES NOT WANT DOGS POLLUTING THEIR SCREENS. If you
claim otherwise then produce the evidence that more people have written in
requesting DOGs to be placed on BBC3 programmes than have written in asking
for them to be removed. Produce the evidence that when asked the simple
question "do you want programmes including Drama, Comedy and Films
transmitted with DOGs on the screen or would you prefer the programmes to be
transmitted without DOGs" that they supported the former and not the later.
If you cannot produce the evidence and publish it then your claim is clearly
a BLATANT LIE!

If DOGs were about helping people to identify the channel they are watching
by branding them then why aren't they broadcast during commercial breaks or
during trailers for programmes on other channels which confuse people into
they are thinking that they have accidentally tuned into a different channel
from the one they picked from their EPG?

Why can't you make the DOG optional by using an MHEG overlay instead which
can be deactivated by pressing the Green button like the "press red"
overlays on News24?

If DOGs are the norm for youth programming then why aren't they placed on
the same programmes when they are released on DVD? I'll tell you why.
Because no one would buy them or rent them. Would you want DOGs placed all
over your favourite photographs and pictures of your wedding and your
children? Do your children want that? If not then why are they being
inflicted on viewers of BBC3?

Finally I noticed that the DOG was left out of yesterdays (12/3/2008) BBC3
episode of Torchwood. I hope this will continued that way and was not a
mistake, otherwise I will not be watching it again.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/

On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:39:20 -0000, "Agamemnon"
wrote:

Since you have completely ignored the main issue of my complaint which was
that the new DOG has made BBC3 totally unwatchable I will not be watching
anything on BBC3 again that contains a DOG, and I expect most other viewers
will do the same thing. Your claim that the brightness has been reduced to
70% transparency is completely disingenuous since the DOG looks exactly the
same brightness and as distracting as it was before and during dark scenes
in a program still looks as bright as the sun. On top of that the fact that
it is coloured bright purple makes it impossible to ignore it and ruins the
programmes it is on.

Stop insulting the intelligence of your viewers who know perfectly well
which channel they are watching and what is coming up next by pressing the
Info or EPG button on their remote control and stop trying to copy
commercial television.

YOUR TARGET AUDIENCE DOES NOT WANT DOGS POLLUTING THEIR SCREENS. If you
claim otherwise then produce the evidence that more people have written in
requesting DOGs to be placed on BBC3 programmes than have written in asking
for them to be removed. Produce the evidence that when asked the simple
question "do you want programmes including Drama, Comedy and Films
transmitted with DOGs on the screen or would you prefer the programmes to be
transmitted without DOGs" that they supported the former and not the later.
If you cannot produce the evidence and publish it then your claim is clearly
a BLATANT LIE!

If DOGs were about helping people to identify the channel they are watching
by branding them then why aren't they broadcast during commercial breaks or
during trailers for programmes on other channels which confuse people into
they are thinking that they have accidentally tuned into a different channel
from the one they picked from their EPG?

Why can't you make the DOG optional by using an MHEG overlay instead which
can be deactivated by pressing the Green button like the "press red"
overlays on News24?

If DOGs are the norm for youth programming then why aren't they placed on
the same programmes when they are released on DVD? I'll tell you why.
Because no one would buy them or rent them. Would you want DOGs placed all
over your favourite photographs and pictures of your wedding and your
children? Do your children want that? If not then why are they being
inflicted on viewers of BBC3?

Finally I noticed that the DOG was left out of yesterdays (12/3/2008) BBC3
episode of Torchwood. I hope this will continued that way and was not a
mistake, otherwise I will not be watching it again.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/


Great stuff, Aggy. You should have thrown an "IMBECILE!" in there,
though.

On 13 Mar, 22:52, Monsieur Tabernac
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:39:20 -0000, "Agamemnon"





wrote:
Since you have completely ignored the main issue of my complaint which was
that the new DOG has made BBC3 totally unwatchable I will not be watching
anything on BBC3 again that contains a DOG, and I expect most other viewers
will do the same thing. Your claim that the brightness has been reduced to
70% transparency is completely disingenuous since the DOG looks exactly the
same brightness and as distracting as it was before and during dark scenes
in a program still looks as bright as the sun. On top of that the fact that
it is coloured bright purple makes it impossible to ignore it and ruins the
programmes it is on.

Stop insulting the intelligence of your viewers who know perfectly well
which channel they are watching and what is coming up next by pressing the
Info or EPG button on their remote control and stop trying to copy
commercial television.

YOUR TARGET AUDIENCE DOES NOT WANT DOGS POLLUTING THEIR SCREENS. If you
claim otherwise then produce the evidence that more people have written in
requesting DOGs to be placed on BBC3 programmes than have written in asking
for them to be removed. Produce the evidence that when asked the simple
question "do you want programmes including Drama, Comedy and Films
transmitted with DOGs on the screen or would you prefer the programmes to be
transmitted without DOGs" that they supported the former and not the later.

On 13 Mar, 22:52, Monsieur Tabernac
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:39:20 -0000, "Agamemnon"





wrote:
Since you have completely ignored the main issue of my complaint which was
that the new DOG has made BBC3 totally unwatchable I will not be watching
anything on BBC3 again that contains a DOG, and I expect most other viewers
will do the same thing. Your claim that the brightness has been reduced to
70% transparency is completely disingenuous since the DOG looks exactly the
same brightness and as distracting as it was before and during dark scenes
in a program still looks as bright as the sun. On top of that the fact that
it is coloured bright purple makes it impossible to ignore it and ruins the
programmes it is on.

Stop insulting the intelligence of your viewers who know perfectly well
which channel they are watching and what is coming up next by pressing the
Info or EPG button on their remote control and stop trying to copy
commercial television.

YOUR TARGET AUDIENCE DOES NOT WANT DOGS POLLUTING THEIR SCREENS. If you
claim otherwise then produce the evidence that more people have written in
requesting DOGs to be placed on BBC3 programmes than have written in asking
for them to be removed. Produce the evidence that when asked the simple
question "do you want programmes including Drama, Comedy and Films
transmitted with DOGs on the screen or would you prefer the programmes to be
transmitted without DOGs" that they supported the former and not the later.

On 13 Mar, 23:05, " wrote:


Frighteningly, this is apparently Aggy's idea of a reasoned, formal
letter of complaint.

Phil

It's so ludicrously blinkered it's unintentional comedy genius. You
can hear the laughter from the BBC from here as they read it.

No wonder the public consider cult tv fans to be geeks. LOL!

On Mar 13, 10:39*pm, "Agamemnon" wrote:
Since you have completely ignored the main issue of my complaint which was
that the new DOG has made BBC3 totally unwatchable I will not be watching
anything on BBC3 again that contains a DOG, and I expect most other viewers
will do the same thing. Your claim that the brightness has been reduced to
70% transparency is completely disingenuous since the DOG looks exactly the
same brightness and as distracting as it was before and during dark scenes
in a program still looks as bright as the sun. On top of that the fact that
it is coloured bright purple makes it impossible to ignore it and ruins the
programmes it is on.

Stop insulting the intelligence of your viewers who know perfectly well
which channel they are watching and what is coming up next by pressing the
Info or EPG button on their remote control and stop trying to copy
commercial television.

YOUR TARGET AUDIENCE DOES NOT WANT DOGS POLLUTING THEIR SCREENS. If you
claim otherwise then produce the evidence that more people have written in
requesting DOGs to be placed on BBC3 programmes than have written in asking
for them to be removed. Produce the evidence that when asked the simple
question "do you want programmes including Drama, Comedy and Films
transmitted with DOGs on the screen or would you prefer the programmes to be
transmitted without DOGs" that they supported the former and not the later..
If you cannot produce the evidence and publish it then your claim is clearly
a BLATANT LIE!

If DOGs were about helping people to identify the channel they are watching
by branding them then why aren't they broadcast during commercial breaks or
during trailers for programmes on other channels which confuse people into
they are thinking that they have accidentally tuned into a different channel
from the one they picked from their EPG?

Why can't you make the DOG optional by using an MHEG overlay instead which
can be deactivated by pressing the Green button like the "press red"
overlays on News24?

If DOGs are the norm for youth programming then why aren't they placed on
the same programmes when they are released on DVD? I'll tell you why.
Because no one would buy them or rent them. Would you want DOGs placed all
over your favourite photographs and pictures of your wedding and your
children? Do your children want that? If not then why are they being
inflicted on viewers of BBC3?

Finally I noticed that the DOG was left out of yesterdays (12/3/2008) BBC3
episode of Torchwood. I hope this will continued that way and was not a
mistake, otherwise I will not be watching it again.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/

Aggs, I never thought I would say this, but I do have some sympathy
over the BBC 3 DOG, but when you ask them to provide evidence it might
have been better if you had used the word "please" I suspect your
demand for evidence, rather than a polite request will get short
shrift (but I wil be happy to be proved wrong)

Just a thought

Regards

Ged

PS I also sent a note to BBC3 via the Beeb website and I got a reply
back that did not address my comments that I found the DOG a bit
distracting. If I find where I archived it (deleted it?) I might post
it

On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:39:20 -0000, "Agamemnon"
wrote:

Since you have completely ignored the main issue of my complaint which was
that the new DOG has made BBC3 totally unwatchable I will not be watching
anything on BBC3 again that contains a DOG, and I expect most other viewers
will do the same thing.

You're over-egging your argument to the point of making it (and you)
absurd. DOGs are annoying. They don't make a channel "totally
unwatchable". You don't really anticipate they will drive over 50% of
potential viewers away. Keep it real!

"Laurence Payne" NOSPAMlpayne1ATdsl.pipex.com wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:39:20 -0000, "Agamemnon"
wrote:

Since you have completely ignored the main issue of my complaint which was
that the new DOG has made BBC3 totally unwatchable I will not be watching
anything on BBC3 again that contains a DOG, and I expect most other
viewers
will do the same thing.

You're over-egging your argument to the point of making it (and you)
absurd. DOGs are annoying. They don't make a channel "totally
unwatchable". You don't really anticipate they will drive over 50% of
potential viewers away. Keep it real!

It's what happened when they launched BBC1, 2, ITV and Channel 4 on the
satellite. Nobody watched them because of the DOG and nobody is watching BBC
HD because of the DOG either. Why spend thousands of pounds on a large HD
screen and STB when it will have DOG **** plastered all over it forcing you
to watch the SD or Terrestrial analogue version instead.

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:28:58 -0000, "Agamemnon"
wrote:


"Laurence Payne" NOSPAMlpayne1ATdsl.pipex.com wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:39:20 -0000, "Agamemnon"
wrote:

Since you have completely ignored the main issue of my complaint which was
that the new DOG has made BBC3 totally unwatchable I will not be watching
anything on BBC3 again that contains a DOG, and I expect most other
viewers
will do the same thing.

You're over-egging your argument to the point of making it (and you)
absurd. DOGs are annoying. They don't make a channel "totally
unwatchable". You don't really anticipate they will drive over 50% of
potential viewers away. Keep it real!

It's what happened when they launched BBC1, 2, ITV and Channel 4 on the
satellite. Nobody watched them because of the DOG and nobody is watching BBC
HD because of the DOG either. Why spend thousands of pounds on a large HD
screen and STB when it will have DOG **** plastered all over it forcing you
to watch the SD or Terrestrial analogue version instead.

"Nobody" is watching these channels? I think you may have missed
Laurence's point about hyperbole. Unfortunately, without some
diplomacy, it's unlikely your complaint will be taken seriously. I
recommend rewriting it but using a more tactful approach: voice your
concerns politely, ask questions nicely and supply a suggestion or
two. Remember to thank them for their attention. Avoid the use of
words such as "poppycock", "imbecile" or "fool." You may be surprised
at the response you receive.

Agamemnon wrote:

Why spend thousands of pounds on a large HD screen and STB when it will
have DOG **** plastered all over it forcing you to watch the SD or
Terrestrial analogue version instead.

That is actually a good point. But if you was to put your complaints more
reasonably, your complaints might well get a decent reply from the BBC and
any other TV company that you might complain to about DOGs.