hd with antenna?

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On Mar 4, 8:44 pm, "Richard C." wrote:
"whosbest54" wrote in message

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This set doesn't have a ATSC tuner for over the air digital. You
can get analog with it until those stations go away. For
digital, you'll need a set
top box tuner - one of the subsidized boxes will work.

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They will NOT work for providing an HD signal!

So they are providing subsidies for boxes that only will work with
some ATSC signals?

They'll work with all ATSC signals and will produce an analog NTSC
output. They can't magically provide HD video to an analog NTSC TV.

I didn't know they even built them.

To provide analog NTSC video for folks who haven't bought digital TVs
yet.

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On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:31:19 -0600, whosbest54 wrote:

In article ,
says...


"whosbest54" wrote in message
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This set doesn't have a ATSC tuner for over the air digital. You can
get analog with it until those stations go away. For digital, you'll
need a set
top box tuner - one of the subsidized boxes will work.

================================
They will NOT work for providing an HD signal!

The OP said HD, not I. I only mentioned digital, which will work with
one of the subsidized boxes. If you had looked at the manual, you would
note the set isn't HD - HD isn't mentioned anywhere in the manual. It
appears to be a SD LCD, with a 4x3 display. A HD signal will be
displayed in SD, which is what one of the subsidized boxes will provide.

I probably should have mentioned the set was not HD in my original post.

whosbest54

I don't want to argue the point, but check the specs on the TV again. It
is an HDTV, without an ATSC tuner. A DTV converter box will work, but
won't give them HD. For HD, they need a regular ATSC receiver STB.

As for the rabbit ears argument. I haven't seen a set of rabbit ears
without a uhf loop in years. I think most people equate the term to also
include UHF. I know I do. Let's face it, it's not a technical term anyway.
But in the future I'm dropping it and will only use uhf/vhf set top
antenna from now on.

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On 05 Mar 2008 16:36:02 GMT, Bert Hyman wrote:

) wrote in
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On Mar 4, 8:44 pm, "Richard C." wrote:
"whosbest54" wrote in message

...

This set doesn't have a ATSC tuner for over the air digital. You
can get analog with it until those stations go away. For
digital, you'll need a set
top box tuner - one of the subsidized boxes will work.

================================
They will NOT work for providing an HD signal!

So they are providing subsidies for boxes that only will work with
some ATSC signals?

They'll work with all ATSC signals and will produce an analog NTSC
output. They can't magically provide HD video to an analog NTSC TV.

I didn't know they even built them.

To provide analog NTSC video for folks who haven't bought digital TVs
yet.

Actually, any box that qualifies for the subsidy cannot (by rule)
provide HD out. If one want HD, they have to get a box that doesn't
qualify for the subsidy.

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In article [email protected], says...

I don't want to argue the point, but check the specs on the TV again. It
is an HDTV, without an ATSC tuner. A DTV converter box will work, but
won't give them HD. For HD, they need a regular ATSC receiver STB.

From:

http://www.amazon.com/Sharp-Aquos-LC.../dp/B00008AJKQ

"The screen offers 480 x 640 (VGA) resolution."

http://www.ebrandsmall.com/Sharp-Aqu...creen-LCD-TV-p
/nds-lc-13b2ub.htm

"Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (Standard)
Resolution: 640 x 480 (VGA)"

And the manual never uses the term HD or high definition that I could
find. Looks like a 4x3 SD LCD set to me.

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On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 12:57:08 -0600, whosbest54 wrote:

In article [email protected],
says...

I don't want to argue the point, but check the specs on the TV again. It
is an HDTV, without an ATSC tuner. A DTV converter box will work, but
won't give them HD. For HD, they need a regular ATSC receiver STB.

From:

http://www.amazon.com/Sharp-Aquos-LC...anel-Black/dp/
B00008AJKQ

"The screen offers 480 x 640 (VGA) resolution."

http://www.ebrandsmall.com/Sharp-Aqu...idescreen-LCD-
TV-p
/nds-lc-13b2ub.htm

"Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (Standard)
Resolution: 640 x 480 (VGA)"

Unofficial sites often have wrong info.

And the manual never uses the term HD or high definition that I could
find. Looks like a 4x3 SD LCD set to me.

Correct, but it does give the resolution, and it's HD.

SPECIFICATIONS (LC-13B2UB)
Items Model LC-13B2UB
LCD panel 13� Advanced Super View & BLACK TFT LCD
Number of dots 921,600 dots VGA
Video color systems N358, N443, PAL, PAL-M, PAL-N, SECAM, PAL-60

Note the number of dots. 640x480=307,200. 1280x720=921,600. Also note that
it supports all Pal versions and Secam which require more than 640x480.
The screen is certainly 4:3 so I'm not sure how they utilized the dots,
but I assume the layout is close to 1200x800. Basically, it's one of the
older HD 4:3 sets like they used to sell in CRT form About that time
frame. In any case, it's certainly not an SDTV.

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On Mar 3, 11:49 am, "suz the oozer" wrote:
friend of mine lives in nyc in a building with no cable. some gave her a new
13"hdtv. she asked me if it were possible to hook up aantennato her new
tv so she could watct it.
the tv is: Sharp-Aquos-LC-13B2UB-Flat-Panel

if her TV has an ATSC tuner then she could hook up with CS-102 HDTV/
DTV antenna.
This is a really good omni directional antenna that would enable her
to watch
free HDTV in her area. It gives sharp cystal clear images. She may
even connect the antenna
to her laptop if she has the tuner. Go get over at http://kowatec.com/
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"Wes Newell" wrote in message
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Correct, but it does give the resolution, and it's HD.

SPECIFICATIONS (LC-13B2UB)
Items Model LC-13B2UB
LCD panel 13" Advanced Super View & BLACK TFT LCD
Number of dots 921,600 dots VGA

Number of 'dots'? Actually the number of 'dots' on a 'VGA' screen is
921,600 (each 'pixel' is a triad of 'dots'). Me thinks that there's a bit of
deceptive advertizing here.

Video color systems N358, N443, PAL, PAL-M, PAL-N, SECAM, PAL-60

Note the number of dots. 640x480=307,200. 1280x720=921,600. Also note that
it supports all Pal versions and Secam which require more than 640x480.

Not if the image is mapped to the # of pixels.

The screen is certainly 4:3 so I'm not sure how they utilized the dots,
but I assume the layout is close to 1200x800. Basically, it's one of the
older HD 4:3 sets like they used to sell in CRT form About that time
frame. In any case, it's certainly not an SDTV.

Yes it is! (see above)

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I also bought the CS-102 hdtv antenna from kowatec.com . It gives
perfect HD images.
It so amazing that a little antenna like that can capture such good
diginal signal.

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I also bought the CS-102 hdtv antenna from kowatec.com . It gives
perfect HD images.
It so amazing that a little antenna like that can capture such good
diginal signal.

This has got to be the lamest sockpuppet spammer I've ever seen.

Not only is he posting from the same provider as PingAnTan, Gmail, he
didn't even bother to change computers.

Way to generate trust for kowatec.com. I'd sure trust them with my
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On Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:10:39 -0800, SoCalCommie wrote:

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Correct, but it does give the resolution, and it's HD.

SPECIFICATIONS (LC-13B2UB)
Items Model LC-13B2UB
LCD panel 13" Advanced Super View & BLACK TFT LCD Number of dots
921,600 dots VGA

Number of 'dots'? Actually the number of 'dots' on a 'VGA' screen is
921,600 (each 'pixel' is a triad of 'dots'). Me thinks that there's a
bit of deceptive advertizing here.

Yep. I think you're right. I sure didn't expect this from Sharp. Guess
that's why they used dots instead of pixels.

My apologies to all. They duped me.

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