Humax PVR9200T USB transfer

Dr Zoidberg wrote:
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I've tried to transfer files from the PVR to my PC via USB for the
first time today, and a few smallish radio files have transferred
okay, but half of all attempts to transfer what are still small
files fail, and I was wondering what other people's experience has
been of USB transfer with this PVR?

I used a third party bit of software which worked better , and also
bought a better quality USB cable and it worked fine.
With the standard software and a cheap crap cable it was flaky


I've changed the priority of the Media eLinker app to real-time, and
the first 700 MB file I tried it downloaded okay, which I thought was
promising, but I started downloading another file straight after
that and that failed after a few seconds, so it's still flaky.

I did buy a cheapo USB cable actually, so if it doesn't get any
better I'll buy a better one, thanks for the advice - which USB
cable did you get that did the trick and what 3rd party software do
you use, BTW?

http://www.enigma.eclipse.co.uk/huma...Controller.htm for the
software ,


Yeah, I tried that yesterday but the machine freezes if transfer fails and I
have to cycle the power, whereas with the Humax software the transfer just
fails. I only tried it from the DOS prompt yesterday though, so I'll give it
a go in conjunction with the Humax GUI to see if that makes any difference.


and I bought a decent Belkin cable


Okay, I'll get one of those, thanks.


Also, is there any free software for demultiplexing from MPEG TS to
PS (.mpg) format? I tried ProjectX earlier but it said "can't find
sequence" or something like that.

http://www.womble.com/ , for fairly dubious values of "free"


After a bit of playing last night I found that PVAstrumento demuxes TV
programmes but not radio programmes (or at least not with the settings I'm
using) and ProjectX demuxes radio programmes okay but it doesn't properly
demux TV programmes.


BTW, did the transfer speed increase after you'd changed the cable?

Yes.


Okay.


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CJF wrote:
"Ivan" wrote in message
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"Dr Zoidberg" wrote in message
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"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
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I've tried to transfer files from the PVR to my PC via USB for the
first time today, and a few smallish radio files have transferred
okay, but half of all attempts to transfer what are still small
files fail, and I was wondering what other people's experience has
been of USB transfer with this PVR?

There does seem to be a suggestion that Humax USB transfers are very
sensitive to the manufacturer of the USB chip in the PC concerned. I
can transfer to my Toshiba laptop with no problems, and no false
starts, but the Humax wont talk to my desktop at all - which I
suspect is part of this effect. If you have an alternative PC to try,
then this is worthwhile doing.


I've just got the one desktop, unfortunately.


Humax's seem fussy about USB cables as well, so short good quality
cables are advised too - try several if you have them.


Yes, Dr Zoidberg has suggested that as well and I did buy a cheap cable, so
I'll try and find a better one, thanks.


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"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
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CJF wrote:
"Ivan" wrote in message
m...

"Dr Zoidberg" wrote in message
...
"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
...
I've tried to transfer files from the PVR to my PC via USB for the
first time today, and a few smallish radio files have transferred
okay, but half of all attempts to transfer what are still small
files fail, and I was wondering what other people's experience has
been of USB transfer with this PVR?

There does seem to be a suggestion that Humax USB transfers are very
sensitive to the manufacturer of the USB chip in the PC concerned. I
can transfer to my Toshiba laptop with no problems, and no false
starts, but the Humax wont talk to my desktop at all - which I
suspect is part of this effect. If you have an alternative PC to try,
then this is worthwhile doing.


I've just got the one desktop, unfortunately.


Humax's fussy about USB cables as well, so short good quality
cables are advised too - try several if you have them.


Yes, Dr Zoidberg has suggested that as well and I did buy a cheap cable,
so I'll try and find a better one, thanks.


There appears to be a number of discussions on the e-linker, see here for
instance.

http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/index.php?showtopic=884&st=20

I have a sort of vague feeling I read somewhere that the e-linker was
unhappy with a certain type of mother board chipset, however it was some
time ago so could well have been related to a completely different issue,
but may still be worth checking out.

Also in some cases I have found that simply changing the file extension from
..ts to .mpg/mpeg will allow it to work in some applications.





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Paul D.Smith wrote:
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There does seem to be a suggestion that Humax USB transfers are very
sensitive to the manufacturer of the USB chip in the PC concerned. I
can transfer to my Toshiba laptop with no problems, and no false
starts, but the
Humax wont talk to my desktop at all - which I suspect is part of
this effect. If you have an alternative PC to try, then this is
worthwhile doing.

Humax's seem fussy about USB cables as well, so short good quality
cables are advised too - try several if you have them.

Charles F

Given the comments about how slow the Humax transfer is, I find the
apparent unreliability bizarre. And the idea that you can't
retransmit just the bit of the file that was corrupted beggars
belief. This sort of problem was being solved decades ago with slow
and sometimes unreliable modems.


I agree, it is bizarre that they seem to have put so little effort into the
USB bit, which is this PVR's USP and considering that in all other aspects
it's a very good device.


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Ivan wrote:
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...
CJF wrote:
"Ivan" wrote in message
m...

"Dr Zoidberg" wrote in message
...
"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
...
I've tried to transfer files from the PVR to my PC via USB for
the first time today, and a few smallish radio files have
transferred okay, but half of all attempts to transfer what are
still small files fail, and I was wondering what other people's
experience has been of USB transfer with this PVR?

There does seem to be a suggestion that Humax USB transfers are very
sensitive to the manufacturer of the USB chip in the PC concerned. I
can transfer to my Toshiba laptop with no problems, and no false
starts, but the Humax wont talk to my desktop at all - which I
suspect is part of this effect. If you have an alternative PC to
try, then this is worthwhile doing.


I've just got the one desktop, unfortunately.


Humax's fussy about USB cables as well, so short good quality
cables are advised too - try several if you have them.


Yes, Dr Zoidberg has suggested that as well and I did buy a cheap
cable, so I'll try and find a better one, thanks.


There appears to be a number of discussions on the e-linker, see here
for instance.

http://www.hummy.org.uk/invison/index.php?showtopic=884&st=20


Thanks, I didn't know that existed so it should be useful.

Humax really should sort this out, because 23% of people not being able to
transfer files using USB is taking the ****.


I have a sort of vague feeling I read somewhere that the e-linker was
unhappy with a certain type of mother board chipset, however it was
some time ago so could well have been related to a completely
different issue, but may still be worth checking out.


I use a PCI card for USB, but I've no idea what the chipset it uses is.


Also in some cases I have found that simply changing the file
extension from .ts to .mpg/mpeg will allow it to work in some
applications.


VLC can playback .ts files without renaming them, but I've decided to go
back to recompressing video files to MPEG-4 or H.264 for the timebeing, so I
guess it would need to be in .mpg format for Nero to recompress it.


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decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
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"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
...
I've tried to transfer files from the PVR to my PC via USB for the first
time today, and a few smallish radio files have transferred okay, but half
of all attempts to transfer what are still small files fail, and I was
wondering what other people's experience has been of USB transfer with
this PVR?

I've also tried the alternative Humax USB driver, but that doesn't seem to
be much more reliable and it has the added bonus of freezing the PVR if
the transfer fails so I have to cycle the power, so I've gone back to
Humax's own USB driver.


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Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info

The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm


There's a faster way to transfer the files from the Humax described here

http://humaxdisk.wikispaces.com/Disk+Cabling+and+Mods

using this software

http://humaxdisk.wikispaces.com/HummyReadFiles


You can also read about it in the forums on

www.hummy.org.uk

I use it myself

HTH

....snip...
There's a faster way to transfer the files from the Humax described here

http://humaxdisk.wikispaces.com/Disk+Cabling+and+Mods

using this software

http://humaxdisk.wikispaces.com/HummyReadFiles


You can also read about it in the forums on

www.hummy.org.uk

I use it myself

HTH

Just be careful - if the Hummy wakes up to record something whilst you're
doing this, who knows what carnage could occur. What you're doing is making
TWO controllers try to control a single hard drive; this is not for the
feint hearted!

Paul DS

http://www.enigma.eclipse.co.uk/huma...troller.htmfor the
software ,

I'll add another vote for the HumaxMediaController software. I
couldn't get the supplied eLinker to work reliably with any of 3
laptops and a choice of cables. MediaController works perfectly every
time. Transfer speed is about 800k/sec, so not exactly quick. I just
leave my laptop plugged in overnight while offloading a batch of
stuff.

Also, is there any free software for demultiplexing from MPEG TS to
PS (.mpg) format? I tried ProjectX earlier but it said "can't find
sequence" or something like that.

http://www.womble.com/, for fairly dubious values of "free"

After a bit of playing last night I found that PVAstrumento demuxes TV
programmes but not radio programmes (or at least not with the settings I'm
using) and ProjectX demuxes radio programmes okay but it doesn't properly
demux TV programmes.

I use VideoRedo+ to correct, convert and strip adverts etc, then use
NeroVision to burn to disc. Not free, but not expensive either. I find
the alternatives to be fiddly or not support important features (e.g.
MPEG2 audio to AC3 conversion). That said, NeroVision is a bit
rubbish, the title page options are pathetic, and it tends to randomly
decide to re-encode the video stream even when it shouldn't.

-Antony.

Antony wrote:
http://www.enigma.eclipse.co.uk/huma...troller.htmfor
the software ,

I'll add another vote for the HumaxMediaController software. I
couldn't get the supplied eLinker to work reliably with any of 3
laptops and a choice of cables. MediaController works perfectly every
time. Transfer speed is about 800k/sec, so not exactly quick. I just
leave my laptop plugged in overnight while offloading a batch of
stuff.


Yeah, I tried that software yesterday, but a few files failed. I'll give it
another go tonight anyway using the above software as the driver and the
eLinker as the GUI to see if it's more reliable than Humax's own driver.


Also, is there any free software for demultiplexing from MPEG TS to
PS (.mpg) format? I tried ProjectX earlier but it said "can't find
sequence" or something like that.

http://www.womble.com/, for fairly dubious values of "free"

After a bit of playing last night I found that PVAstrumento demuxes
TV programmes but not radio programmes (or at least not with the
settings I'm using) and ProjectX demuxes radio programmes okay but
it doesn't properly demux TV programmes.

I use VideoRedo+ to correct, convert and strip adverts etc, then use
NeroVision to burn to disc. Not free, but not expensive either. I find
the alternatives to be fiddly or not support important features (e.g.
MPEG2 audio to AC3 conversion). That said, NeroVision is a bit
rubbish, the title page options are pathetic, and it tends to randomly
decide to re-encode the video stream even when it shouldn't.


I've already got Nero (Recode) which I use to recompress to MPEG-4 or H.264,
and PVAstrumento demuxes the .ts to .mpg, so it should be sufficient for
what I need it for - I'm too lazy to cut the adverts out! :-)


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Enta wrote:
"DAB sounds worse than FM" [email protected] wrote in message
...
I've tried to transfer files from the PVR to my PC via USB for the
first time today, and a few smallish radio files have transferred
okay, but half of all attempts to transfer what are still small
files fail, and I was wondering what other people's experience has
been of USB transfer with this PVR?

I've also tried the alternative Humax USB driver, but that doesn't
seem to be much more reliable and it has the added bonus of freezing
the PVR if the transfer fails so I have to cycle the power, so I've
gone back to Humax's own USB driver.


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info

The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm


There's a faster way to transfer the files from the Humax described
here
http://humaxdisk.wikispaces.com/Disk+Cabling+and+Mods

using this software

http://humaxdisk.wikispaces.com/HummyReadFiles


You can also read about it in the forums on

www.hummy.org.uk

I use it myself


I'll have a read of that, thanks.


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Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info

The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm