Consumers Lose In HD-DVD War

Wes Newell wrote:

On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 05:21:46 -0800, bigjimpack wrote:

Instead of paying less than $200 for a player and $25 for a DVD we will
have to pay $300 or more for a player and close to $30 for a Blu ray DVD
that isnt as durable. I'll be waiting this out for a while.
Upconconverted looks just fine

People seem to forget that there is still another HD player option, HD-
VMD. And while it's a newcomer and just started shipping about a month
ago, at least it's a finished product. And MSRP is $210 for it's top of
line model, and $199 for the standard model.

http://nmestore.com/index.php

http://www.pcrush.com/prodspec.asp?i...8462&bsrc=scdp

http://www.nmeinc.com/

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VMD is DOA - and that's not to say it is not a good format, that is to
say the pseudo capitalist economy we live in isn't going to allow any
competition.

matters not though - now we have one high definition format that
nobody cares about, instead of two. Its the same war DVDA and Super
Audio discs fought - and both lost.

That said - buy a PS3, before Sony ups the price, its an amazing
hardware value for the money, and up samples DVDs to almost HD quality
to boot.

On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:09:32 -0500, "RBM" wrote:


wrote in message
...
Instead of paying less than $200 for a player and $25 for a DVD we
will have to pay $300 or more for a player and close to $30 for a Blu
ray DVD that isnt as durable. I'll be waiting this out for a while.
Upconconverted looks just fine

I think you'll find the price of both will drop like a rocket in a few
months

Possibly, but Sony is likely to push the limits to what the market
will support. If there is an increase in demand you can bet they will
keep prices up. They are not noted for having the end users best
interests at heart or having much of an opinion of such. Just remember
the "root kit" and their CEO's remarks about the consumer's level of
intelligence.


Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Sony paid $400,000,000 to Warner to drop HD-DVD (After Dawn web site). You
think that will lead to price drops in players which they already make
nothing on?

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times."

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Wambough's The Choirboys

"Roger" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:09:32 -0500, "RBM" wrote:


wrote in message
...
Instead of paying less than $200 for a player and $25 for a DVD we
will have to pay $300 or more for a player and close to $30 for a Blu
ray DVD that isnt as durable. I'll be waiting this out for a while.
Upconconverted looks just fine

I think you'll find the price of both will drop like a rocket in a few
months

Possibly, but Sony is likely to push the limits to what the market
will support. If there is an increase in demand you can bet they will
keep prices up. They are not noted for having the end users best
interests at heart or having much of an opinion of such. Just remember
the "root kit" and their CEO's remarks about the consumer's level of
intelligence.


Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

True enough. I held my nose and ordered a PlayStation 3 this week only
because of the $100 rebate promotion SonyStyle`was running. I loathe Sony,
but they did win (via bribery) and I also felt obliged to add to their
corporate losses on the PlayStation. Will rent Blu Rays from NetFlix to try
to minimize Sony profits. Will buy none.

Congrats, Sony. The scum won, but what can one do?

--


- George Litwinski

"I know that management has always been behind me. I've felt them there many
times."

Officer Spermwhale Whalen in Joseph
Wambough's The Choirboys

common_ wrote in message
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Wes Newell wrote:

On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 05:21:46 -0800, bigjimpack wrote:

Instead of paying less than $200 for a player and $25 for a DVD we will
have to pay $300 or more for a player and close to $30 for a Blu ray DVD
that isnt as durable. I'll be waiting this out for a while.
Upconconverted looks just fine

People seem to forget that there is still another HD player option, HD-
VMD. And while it's a newcomer and just started shipping about a month
ago, at least it's a finished product. And MSRP is $210 for it's top of
line model, and $199 for the standard model.

http://nmestore.com/index.php

http://www.pcrush.com/prodspec.asp?i...8462&bsrc=scdp

http://www.nmeinc.com/

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AMD cpu help http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php


VMD is DOA - and that's not to say it is not a good format, that is to
say the pseudo capitalist economy we live in isn't going to allow any
competition.

matters not though - now we have one high definition format that
nobody cares about, instead of two. Its the same war DVDA and Super
Audio discs fought - and both lost.

That said - buy a PS3, before Sony ups the price, its an amazing
hardware value for the money, and up samples DVDs to almost HD quality
to boot.

On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:22:38 +0000, common_ sense wrote:

Wes Newell wrote:

On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 05:21:46 -0800, bigjimpack wrote:

Instead of paying less than $200 for a player and $25 for a DVD we
will have to pay $300 or more for a player and close to $30 for a Blu
ray DVD that isnt as durable. I'll be waiting this out for a while.
Upconconverted looks just fine

People seem to forget that there is still another HD player option, HD-
VMD. And while it's a newcomer and just started shipping about a month
ago, at least it's a finished product. And MSRP is $210 for it's top of
line model, and $199 for the standard model.

http://nmestore.com/index.php

http://www.pcrush.com/prodspec.asp?i...8462&bsrc=scdp

http://www.nmeinc.com/

--
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http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm AMD cpu help
http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php


VMD is DOA - and that's not to say it is not a good format, that is to
say the pseudo capitalist economy we live in isn't going to allow any
competition.

VMD isn't dead by a long shot. VMD is a technology, not a disc format. it
can also be used with HD-DVD or Blu-ray to increase storage capacity.
NME's current HD player uses VMD and red laser, not blue laser and it
supports up to a 20 layer disc making th emax capacity for red laser about
100GB. I guess that would be about 500GB with blue laser.

matters not though - now we have one high definition format that nobody
cares about, instead of two. Its the same war DVDA and Super Audio discs
fought - and both lost.

That said - buy a PS3, before Sony ups the price, its an amazing
hardware value for the money, and up samples DVDs to almost HD quality
to boot.

I have no need for a PS3, Blu-ray, VMD HD player or HD-DVD player. I must
admit I was tempted to buy an $89 HD-DVD player with 7 free movies though.
But after some thought, came to my senses. I've got a DVD player in all my
myth boxes and never use them now. I do own 3 DVD's though. All were
gifts.:-)



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"Roger" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:09:32 -0500, "RBM" wrote:


wrote in message
...
Instead of paying less than $200 for a player and $25 for a DVD we
will have to pay $300 or more for a player and close to $30 for a Blu
ray DVD that isnt as durable. I'll be waiting this out for a while.
Upconconverted looks just fine

I think you'll find the price of both will drop like a rocket in a few
months

Possibly, but Sony is likely to push the limits to what the market
will support. If there is an increase in demand you can bet they will
keep prices up. They are not noted for having the end users best
interests at heart or having much of an opinion of such. Just remember
the "root kit" and their CEO's remarks about the consumer's level of
intelligence.


Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


*ALL* huge corporations are malevolent, let's face it.