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Old February 19th 08, 08:46 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Some Belmont viewers in Yorkshire have suffered a strange effect today which
looks as if someone is turning the big volume control up and down at the
transmitter. Analogue reception has been fading in and out, or so it would
appear, every ten minutes or so. The cause is some of the muxes from Crystal
palace, which are co-channel with Belmont analogue.

I had endless reports and complaints today about reception. A Waltham
analogue viewer in Derbyshire rung to complain of close-spaced horizontal
lines on all four channels. CCI from Pontop Pike, 130 miles away, I should
think. Emley Moor C5 (ch37) has a sort of mushy look to it, and KB Aerials
rung this morning full of wonder to tell me about some foreign muxes that
had appeared when he'd installed a DTT box.

The most striking example has been a customer with a 700 outlet distribution
system near Nottingham. The system has five DTT boxes at the head end. The
Tx is Waltham, which is only about 12 miles away and LOS. Normally the
incoming signals are very good and strong. But this morning and afternoon
all the DTT was pixellated and blocky. Since the alignment for Waltham is
almost exactly the same as for CP I suspect CP analogue is the cause of the
bother. That must be coming in at a cracking good level to bollox Waltham!
Surely it couldn't be Bilsdale, coming in from the rear?

Incidentally, when I appeared this evening looking a bit knackered Hil
asked, "Been leaping from tree to tree dear?" (a Monty Python allusion).
"No," I instantly rejoined, "I've been creaking from rung to rung!"
"Yes Charles." she said, which means that she classes the display of wit as
pooterish.

Today this bloke told me that his grandson wanted a wee for his birthday. Do
they make him hold it for the rest of the year, I quipped wittily.

I'm sure I'm getting more witty as time goes. on. Sometimes when I'm driving
along I just burst out laughing at something I've said earlier.

Bill


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Old February 19th 08, 08:53 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article , Bill Wright
scribeth thus
Some Belmont viewers in Yorkshire have suffered a strange effect today which
looks as if someone is turning the big volume control up and down at the
transmitter. Analogue reception has been fading in and out, or so it would
appear, every ten minutes or so. The cause is some of the muxes from Crystal
palace, which are co-channel with Belmont analogue.

I had endless reports and complaints today about reception. A Waltham
analogue viewer in Derbyshire rung to complain of close-spaced horizontal
lines on all four channels. CCI from Pontop Pike, 130 miles away, I should
think. Emley Moor C5 (ch37) has a sort of mushy look to it, and KB Aerials
rung this morning full of wonder to tell me about some foreign muxes that
had appeared when he'd installed a DTT box.

The most striking example has been a customer with a 700 outlet distribution
system near Nottingham. The system has five DTT boxes at the head end. The
Tx is Waltham, which is only about 12 miles away and LOS. Normally the
incoming signals are very good and strong. But this morning and afternoon
all the DTT was pixellated and blocky. Since the alignment for Waltham is
almost exactly the same as for CP I suspect CP analogue is the cause of the
bother. That must be coming in at a cracking good level to bollox Waltham!
Surely it couldn't be Bilsdale, coming in from the rear?



Been a bit of a lift on today;!. All that pressure 'n fog 'n all....
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Old February 19th 08, 09:46 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Bill Wright wrote:

A Waltham
analogue viewer in Derbyshire rung to complain of close-spaced horizontal
lines on all four channels.


One thing I've noticed this week, is that that CCI line pairing effect plays
havoc with LCD screen images. You get some very strange effects, including
posterized luminance and chrominace detail. I'll take an off screen photo next
time it happens. Of course it only affects *analogue' received signals as
displayed.


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Old February 20th 08, 12:27 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
Some Belmont viewers in Yorkshire have suffered a strange effect today
which looks as if someone is turning the big volume control up and down at
the transmitter. Analogue reception has been fading in and out, or so it
would appear, every ten minutes or so. The cause is some of the muxes from
Crystal palace, which are co-channel with Belmont analogue.

I had endless reports and complaints today about reception. A Waltham
analogue viewer in Derbyshire rung to complain of close-spaced horizontal
lines on all four channels. CCI from Pontop Pike, 130 miles away, I should
think. Emley Moor C5 (ch37) has a sort of mushy look to it, and KB Aerials
rung this morning full of wonder to tell me about some foreign muxes that
had appeared when he'd installed a DTT box.

The most striking example has been a customer with a 700 outlet
distribution system near Nottingham. The system has five DTT boxes at the
head end. The Tx is Waltham, which is only about 12 miles away and LOS.
Normally the incoming signals are very good and strong. But this morning
and afternoon all the DTT was pixellated and blocky. Since the alignment
for Waltham is almost exactly the same as for CP I suspect CP analogue is
the cause of the bother. That must be coming in at a cracking good level
to bollox Waltham! Surely it couldn't be Bilsdale, coming in from the
rear?



Yes, today had been a great day for DX enthusiasts like me. I've had French
+ Belgian Band 3 as well as Belgian DTT on CH25 fighting with CP DTT. Also,
Channel 5 analogue from Croydon on CH37 managed to render Lichfield (8 miles
away, direct line-of-sight) unwatchable for a time. CP and Sandy Heath
analogue showing near perfect reception with just a screwdriver touching the
aerial socket!

Chris.


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Old February 20th 08, 12:57 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

I'm sure I'm getting more witty as time goes. on. Sometimes when I'm
driving along I just burst out laughing at something I've said earlier.

Bill


My personal favourite is when I arrive at a customers house and ask "So
what's the problem then"..or something along those lines.

I've had a few that have replied "Well I've had a lot of wind lately".

If I think they can take it I will say "No I meant any problems with the
aerial"!.

Nobody else I tell seems to find it remotely funny but I can chuckle to
myself for a good 30 mile journey fuelled by that gag alone.


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Old February 20th 08, 01:14 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Thats nothing.....

Here in Northampton,

Analogue S4C from Carmel has obliterated SixTV from Oxford. The white S4C
channel logo is very visible. In addition the S/N ratio was degraded from
Mux A from Sutton Coldfield

Mux 1 from Waltham made channel 5 analogue (oxford) unwatchable.

Muxes B and C from Sutton Coldfield messed up Muxes A and B from Oxford. Mux
A was worse probably due to the QAM64 whereas Mux B uses QAM 16

Wenvoe's 4 analogue channels trampled all over Oxford big 4 analogue
channels, rendering it unwatchable.

I had Hannington blasting in, with very watchable analogue BBC 1, ITV and
BBC2. Ch 5 from Hannington was not watchable due to being co-channel with
Waltham's Ch 5. I even managed to get Mux 1 from Hannington.

Regards

Stephen

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
Some Belmont viewers in Yorkshire have suffered a strange effect today
which looks as if someone is turning the big volume control up and down at
the transmitter. Analogue reception has been fading in and out, or so it
would appear, every ten minutes or so. The cause is some of the muxes from
Crystal palace, which are co-channel with Belmont analogue.

I had endless reports and complaints today about reception. A Waltham
analogue viewer in Derbyshire rung to complain of close-spaced horizontal
lines on all four channels. CCI from Pontop Pike, 130 miles away, I should
think. Emley Moor C5 (ch37) has a sort of mushy look to it, and KB Aerials
rung this morning full of wonder to tell me about some foreign muxes that
had appeared when he'd installed a DTT box.

The most striking example has been a customer with a 700 outlet
distribution system near Nottingham. The system has five DTT boxes at the
head end. The Tx is Waltham, which is only about 12 miles away and LOS.
Normally the incoming signals are very good and strong. But this morning
and afternoon all the DTT was pixellated and blocky. Since the alignment
for Waltham is almost exactly the same as for CP I suspect CP analogue is
the cause of the bother. That must be coming in at a cracking good level
to bollox Waltham! Surely it couldn't be Bilsdale, coming in from the
rear?

Incidentally, when I appeared this evening looking a bit knackered Hil
asked, "Been leaping from tree to tree dear?" (a Monty Python allusion).
"No," I instantly rejoined, "I've been creaking from rung to rung!"
"Yes Charles." she said, which means that she classes the display of wit
as pooterish.

Today this bloke told me that his grandson wanted a wee for his birthday.
Do they make him hold it for the rest of the year, I quipped wittily.

I'm sure I'm getting more witty as time goes. on. Sometimes when I'm
driving along I just burst out laughing at something I've said earlier.

Bill




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Old February 20th 08, 03:09 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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Bill Wright wrote:

A Waltham analogue viewer in Derbyshire rung to complain of close-spaced
horizontal lines on all four channels.


One thing I've noticed this week, is that that CCI line pairing effect
plays havoc with LCD screen images. You get some very strange effects,
including posterized luminance and chrominace detail. I'll take an off
screen photo next time it happens. Of course it only affects *analogue'
received signals as displayed.


Mark I saw that last week somewhere but didn't quite realise what was
happening. Send a piccy then.

Bill


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Old February 20th 08, 03:14 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright
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"Carpy" wrote in message
.uk...

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

I'm sure I'm getting more witty as time goes. on. Sometimes when I'm
driving along I just burst out laughing at something I've said earlier.

Bill


My personal favourite is when I arrive at a customers house and ask "So
what's the problem then"..or something along those lines.

I've had a few that have replied "Well I've had a lot of wind lately".

If I think they can take it I will say "No I meant any problems with the
aerial"!.

Nobody else I tell seems to find it remotely funny but I can chuckle to
myself for a good 30 mile journey fuelled by that gag alone.


Another one is when you say "I'll need to get into the loft" and they say
"It's upstairs." And I've told this on here before but I once knocked on the
door of a flat where we were fixing the distribution system and said to aged
occupant "I want to check your picture." She went in and came out again a
few moments later with lipstick on, dragging a hastily cleaned up hubby, and
said "We're ready!" She'd thought I'd said that I wanted to take their
picture.

Bill


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Old February 20th 08, 08:16 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mark Carver
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Mallory wrote:
Thats nothing.....

Here in Northampton,

Analogue S4C from Carmel has obliterated SixTV from Oxford. The white S4C
channel logo is very visible. In addition the S/N ratio was degraded from
Mux A from Sutton Coldfield


Can't have been Carmel. S4C Carmel is Ch 53, Six-TV is Ch47. S4C Wenvoe was
probably the culprit, that's on Ch 47

Wenvoe's 4 analogue channels trampled all over Oxford big 4 analogue
channels, rendering it unwatchable.


Ah, no that would have been the big 4 from Carmel (or possibly Beacon Hill).


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Old February 20th 08, 01:10 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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Mallory wrote:
Thats nothing.....

Here in Northampton,

Analogue S4C from Carmel has obliterated SixTV from Oxford. The white S4C
channel logo is very visible. In addition the S/N ratio was degraded from
Mux A from Sutton Coldfield


Can't have been Carmel. S4C Carmel is Ch 53, Six-TV is Ch47. S4C Wenvoe
was probably the culprit, that's on Ch 47

Wenvoe's 4 analogue channels trampled all over Oxford big 4 analogue
channels, rendering it unwatchable.


Ah, no that would have been the big 4 from Carmel (or possibly Beacon
Hill).



Once again I "enjoyed" Emley Moor crashing over Sutton Coldfield (we're 30
miles south of SC) and my in-house Sky distribution on 67 became really
grainy. I know MUX B from Winter Hill is on 67, is that a likely cause from
a north facing aerial?



 




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