GET RID OF THE BLOODY DOG!

On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 03:11:56 -0800 (PST), The Real Zarbiface
wrote:

On 15 Feb, 09:35, Mark wrote:


I have given up complaining about DOGs, IPPs, and other graphiti on
screen. It doesn't do any good any more. "They" have decided and are
not willing to listen to viewers.


The problem is that despite sensible complaints that I'm sure yours
was, it's ranting nutter letters from people like Aggy that will
convince the BBC that the anti-DOGs are all loonies.

I would assume that most of the complaints were "sensible".

I just don't watch these channels any more because they spoil my
enjoyment of the TV programmes.

It's a *little* distracting I agree, but I don't find it spoils my
enjoyment. I hardly notice it after a while. Ignoring the DOG is just
as easy as ignoring the "on" switch or any items of furniture next to
the tv.

YMMV I guess. I find them *very* distracting. Since watching TV is
still optional I chose not to watch ;-)


Once BBC1 starts the same, I will cancel my TV license and find
something better to do.

M.

And give up all your DVDs as well?

No. It is not difficult to get round this one.

M.

On Feb 15, 2:47*pm, The Real Zarbiface
wrote:
On 15 Feb, 13:48, " wrote:





On 15 Feb, 13:12, Paul Murray wrote:

On 2008-02-14, Agamemnon wrote:

On the other hand perhaps you could perform a simple experiment. On a clear
day stare directly at the sun and then look away and tell us if you can see
anything in the middle of you field of view apart from a dark shadow.. This
is exactly what happens when a DOG is displayed on you TV. The area where
the DOG is placed will be burned by the electrons just like your retina is
burned by the photons from the sun and will not function properly. If you
continue staring at the sun for longer than a split second you will be
blinded so just imagine what is happening to your TV in the area the DOG
appears all the time the TV is switched on. And just like the sun will burn
your retina so will a DOG which appears in exactly the same place on your TV
screen all the time.

Yes, because the brightness of my TV set is exactly the same as the brightness
of the sun. Oh, wait...

Aggy is, as ever, living in a permanent state of confusion. The sun
damages the retina not because of photons entering it (which occurs
anywhere there's light), but because of the high energy of photons
arriving at one's eyes directly from the sun - as such the damage is
actually caused by heat rather than light, and images on a television
screen aren't close to being energetic enough to fry the eyes or
indeed a phosphor screen.

As for static digital images becoming permanently imprinted on
screens, this is after all the reason screensavers were invented, but
it tends to affect only primitive monitors and even those can usually
be safely left on with a test card image overnight - it is simply not
an issue for a 50-minute program, and DOGs usually disappear between
programmes and during commercials. Plasma is unaffected and it is
normally temporary in LCDs.

Phil

Interesting stuff. What's the betting Aggy responds using the words
"FOOL", "IMBECILE" and that old favourite "YOU IGNORANT" but failing
to prove his case. - Hide quoted text -

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Very interesting indeed and why should we expect Aggy to let the facts
get in the way of his ranting?

The sad thing is, I can't stand the new BBC Three DOG either, but I am
confident that in this age of short attention span and rapid
rebranding, it will change soon enough before I get too annoyed with
it

Regards

Ged

On 15 Feb, 16:36, Edster wrote:
"Stephen Wilson" wrote:
This is not true of DOGs. Either on LCD screens (because LCDs don't have
phosphor) or on CRT screens (because the DOGs are like watermarks and are
transparent). And even if you have an old CRT style TV tuned into a channel
that used a non-transparent DOG, it would have to be displaying such a
station for several hours continuously.

What's wrong with watching the same channel for several hours?

Nothing's 'wrong' with it - it's just that as most programmes only
last an hour, and the overwhelming majority of output on most channels
is either crap or of restricted interest, finding yourself watching
more than a couple of programmes in a row seems unlikely to be a
common occurrence.

Would
it really be that unusual a thing to do? I only watch BBC1 now,
because it's the only channel that hasn't started putting writing all
over the screen yet.

That seems an odd measure of quality - does it compensate for the fact
that, aside from shows pulled from BBC2 (like Doctor Who) and those
which belong there (like Life in Cold Blood), BBC1's output is pretty
much universally as dire as ITV's?

Phil

"Mike Henry" wrote in message
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The Real Zarbiface wrote:

On 15 Feb, 09:35, Mark wrote:
Once BBC1 starts the same, I will cancel my TV license and find
something better to do.

And give up all your DVDs as well?

Non sequitur. You don't need a TV licence just to watch DVDs, play games
on a console etc.

You need a TV license as long as you own any piece of equipment that
contains a tuner.

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Stephen Wilson wrote:

"Mike Henry" wrote in message
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In ,
The Real Zarbiface wrote:

On 15 Feb, 09:35, Mark wrote:
Once BBC1 starts the same, I will cancel my TV license and find
something better to do.

And give up all your DVDs as well?

Non sequitur. You don't need a TV licence just to watch DVDs, play games
on a console etc.

You need a TV license as long as you own any piece of equipment that
contains a tuner.

we've had this befo no, you don't if it is not "installed" for reception.

--
From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey"

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11

"Agamemnon" wrote in message
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Complaint to the BBC and to the Torchwood production team.

On tuning in to watch the new episode of Torchwood the DOG was made even

What on earth is Torchwood?

Alan

"The Real Zarbiface" wrote in message
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On 14 Feb, 23:49, "Stephen Wilson"
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Thanks for the explanation Stephen.


So. Is your TV of the CRT or LCD type? Do you leave your TV tuned into a
station that uses solid DOGs for hours at a time?


CRT but I never sit for hours on end watching tv anyway. Who does,
apart from Billy No-Mates like Aggy or The Royale Family? ;-)

Mountain out of a mole hill as taught by Aggs.

As I thought. I was particularly amused by his threat not to watch
BBC3 again. As if the BBC give a toss if some nutjob stops watching,
when viewing figures are only estimated anyway.

No, they don't give a stuff if you stop watching you gay immature teenager.

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On 15 Feb, 07:17, The Real Zarbiface
wrote:
On 14 Feb, 23:49, "Stephen Wilson"

wrote:

Thanks for the explanation Stephen.



So. Is your TV of the CRT or LCD type? Do you leave your TV tuned into
a
station that uses solid DOGs for hours at a time?

CRT but I never sit for hours on end watching tv anyway. Who does,
apart from Billy No-Mates like Aggy or The Royale Family? ;-)

Mountain out of a mole hill as taught by Aggs.

As I thought. I was particularly amused by his threat not to watch
BBC3 again. As if the BBC give a toss if some nutjob stops watching,
when viewing figures are only estimated anyway.

Sad, isn't it? By now it's an automatic presumption that anything Aggy
says which he professes to be factual is incorrect, and when you
actually look into it you find this presumption borne out close to
100% of the time. You have to put effort in to be so consistently
wrong about so many things.

Look whose talking. The idiot that thinks that having a built in digital
tuner means you can record Freeview, Satellite and Cable on just one box.
YOU IGNORANT IMBECILE!

Nothing you say has any credibility here.


Phil

"alan holmes" wrote:

"Agamemnon" wrote in message
On tuning in to watch the new episode of Torchwood the DOG was made even

What on earth is Torchwood?

Also known as the Burseraceae, which is a genetically supported
monophyletic group currently and frequently cited within the Sapindales
and is recognized as a sister group to the Anacardiaceae.

Hope that helps.

--
Dave Farrance

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On 15 Feb, 13:12, Paul Murray wrote:
On 2008-02-14, Agamemnon wrote:

On the other hand perhaps you could perform a simple experiment. On a
clear
day stare directly at the sun and then look away and tell us if you can
see
anything in the middle of you field of view apart from a dark shadow.
This
is exactly what happens when a DOG is displayed on you TV. The area
where
the DOG is placed will be burned by the electrons just like your retina
is
burned by the photons from the sun and will not function properly. If
you
continue staring at the sun for longer than a split second you will be
blinded so just imagine what is happening to your TV in the area the
DOG
appears all the time the TV is switched on. And just like the sun will
burn
your retina so will a DOG which appears in exactly the same place on
your TV
screen all the time.

Yes, because the brightness of my TV set is exactly the same as the
brightness
of the sun. Oh, wait...

Aggy is, as ever, living in a permanent state of confusion. The sun
damages the retina not because of photons entering it (which occurs
anywhere there's light), but because of the high energy of photons

Oh, so you mean UV and X-Rays, high energy photons. Or are you talking about
intensity?

arriving at one's eyes directly from the sun - as such the damage is

The photons from the sun have the same energy as the photons from any other
source of visible light. The fact is that they are more intense than most
other sources but you can still burn your retina by looking directly into a
100W light bulb from close range. Do that all the time and you will damage
it permanently beyond its ability to recover.

actually caused by heat rather than light, and images on a television
screen aren't close to being energetic enough to fry the eyes or
indeed a phosphor screen.

IGNORANT IDIOT! Get an education and learn how TV's work. They produce
photons by means of phosphor being hit by a beam of electrons. Every time
the phosphor is hit part of it decays. If an image like a DOG is constantly
displayed in the same place all the time the phosphor in that area will
decay more than the phosphor elsewhere which is why TV's should only display
constantly changing images so the phosphor decay is even. Uneven phosphor
decay is called burn in you IMBECILE!

Plasma displays work on exactly the same principle but the electrons hitting
the phosphor come from a plasma.


As for static digital images becoming permanently imprinted on
screens, this is after all the reason screensavers were invented, but
it tends to affect only primitive monitors and even those can usually
be safely left on with a test card image overnight - it is simply not

IDIOT! Go try doing it every night and see what happens.

an issue for a 50-minute program, and DOGs usually disappear between
programmes and during commercials. Plasma is unaffected and it is
normally temporary in LCDs.

You are talking out of your arsehole again and making it up as you go along
you LYING IGNORANT FOOL!

Over time the exposure to the DOG will build up and it will burn an image on
your screen. OLED screens being the most affected followed by Plasma
screens. Even LCD's are affected since the electrical components are worn
out faster and the dye decays faster in the area the DOG is place.


Phil