Freesat To Start...

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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I want one, because a: I want to see the BBC and (soon to be launched) ITV
HD channels, and b: I want to record them.

I can live without C4 HD if need be.

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Mark, you took the words out of my mouth. These are the very same reasons
why I want one. Also, so I can appreciate the full potential of my HD ready
TV, without subscription.... Roll-on Freesat!

Chris.

Mizter T wrote:

It'll be the only subscription free D-Sat PVR with 7 day EPG. A significant
fact for 25% of the UK population currently out of DTT range.

I want one, because a: I want to see the BBC and (soon to be launched) ITV HD
channels, and b: I want to record them.

I can live without C4 HD if need be.


But not having C4 SD would be a bit of a pain (along with no More4, I
can live without E4!).

But I've already got C4/M4/E4/F4/C5 etc etc SD, by virtue of Freeview DTT :-)


As others have said though it surely must only be a matter of time
until the C4 (and C5) channels come to Freesat.

Hopefully, yes.


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Chris wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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I want one, because a: I want to see the BBC and (soon to be launched) ITV
HD channels, and b: I want to record them.

I can live without C4 HD if need be.


Mark, you took the words out of my mouth. These are the very same reasons
why I want one. Also, so I can appreciate the full potential of my HD ready
TV, without subscription.... Roll-on Freesat!

Chris.



Now, if only the TV manufacturers would get their act together and use
30" as the switch from 720p to 1080p. The confines of my room preclude
the use of anything more than 32" :-( (I believe there are a *few* at
this size)

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On 13 Feb, 07:30, Mark Carver wrote:
Mizter T wrote:
It'll be the only subscription free D-Sat PVR with 7 day EPG. A significant
fact for 25% of the UK population currently out of DTT range.

I want one, because a: I want to see the BBC and (soon to be launched) ITV HD
channels, and b: I want to record them.

I can live without C4 HD if need be.

But not having C4 SD would be a bit of a pain (along with no More4, I
can live without E4!).

But I've already got C4/M4/E4/F4/C5 etc etc SD, by virtue of Freeview DTT :-)


True. But I suppose the lesson of ITV's late arrival on satellite /
Sky is that viewers prefer to be able to get all their channels on the
same system / from the same box. I guess dual Freesat/Freeview STBs
could be a solution of sorts to this, but it would still be a bit
messy however well it was implemented.


As others have said though it surely must only be a matter of time
until the C4 (and C5) channels come to Freesat.

Hopefully, yes.


If C4 ever gets given any licence fee money (not sure whether they
should or not myself but that's another debate) then I think they
really would be expected to be on Freesat. Anyway, time will tell what
happens with regards to C4 and C5 on Freesat - hopefully they'll be on
it by the year's end.

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:00:39 +0000, tony sayer
wrote:

Just like the Freeview system and channel count but with a dish rather
then a massive Yagi array .

And better piccy quality then what Freeview can deliver..

Why would they ever want to offer better picture quality? The whole
purpose and evolution of digital tv (and radio) is to cram as many
channels of the poorest quality in the smallest amount of spectrum.

The day digital tv for the viewer comes close to what is available in
the production environment is the day hell freezes over - aka the day
the engineers shot all the accountants.

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On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 21:00:39 +0000, tony sayer
wrote:

Just like the Freeview system and channel count but with a dish rather
then a massive Yagi array .

And better piccy quality then what Freeview can deliver..

Why would they ever want to offer better picture quality? The whole
purpose and evolution of digital tv (and radio) is to cram as many
channels of the poorest quality in the smallest amount of spectrum.

The day digital tv for the viewer comes close to what is available in
the production environment is the day hell freezes over -


aka the day
the engineers shot all the accountants.


Yay!...

Never happen tho...

They wouldn't let 'em spend on the guns and ammo;!..

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On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:51:20 +0000, Mike wrote:

Why would they ever want to offer better picture quality? The whole
purpose and evolution of digital tv (and radio) is to cram as many
channels of the poorest quality in the smallest amount of spectrum.

That is the policy for DTV in the UKofGB&NI but it is not the policy
in other countries, either Australasian, European, or North American.

It is not a question of analog versus digital, but how you licence
the spectrum.

"Clem Dye" wrote in message
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Chris wrote:
...When?

Here we are, less than three weeks away from the supposed start date, and
we know nothing about what STBs will be available or even, when!

I did hear that Humax were going to be making Freesat STBs, but they
refused to tell me ANYTHING over the phone, and said "I must wait until
the press release". They wouldn't even tell me when that was likely to
be.

Come on guys, somebody on this group must know something!


Chris.
Frankly, it doesn't matter. Unless C4/E4/More4 are on the line-up at
launch, it's a stillborn platform. The C5 channels would be nice too.

Realistically, who on earth is going to be interested in the BBC/ITV
Freesat offering when a chunk of the 'basic' channels are missing? Don't
get me wrong, I'd be up for it in a flash if C4, C5 et al were available,
but they're not - you've got to have a $ky box, so what's the point?


Agreed. Lack of Channel 4 and Five will kill the system before it starts
IMO.

Brian W wrote:

Agreed. Lack of Channel 4 and Five will kill the system before it starts
IMO.

Maybe they'll go for a soft launch to begin with, and then start
actively promoting the service when 4 and 5 are on board.

"Ben" wrote in message
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Brian W wrote:

Agreed. Lack of Channel 4 and Five will kill the system before it starts
IMO.

Maybe they'll go for a soft launch to begin with, and then start
actively promoting the service when 4 and 5 are on board.

Are FIVE interested in Freesat though?