The Old Jokes Are Always The Best (however unintentional they were in the first place)

This week's Click had an item on the history of TV, using clips from
Tomorrow's World (site's currently down so can't link). Without any
apparent humour or irony, they repeated a clip that caused us much
hilarity way back in 1986:

"""The Japanese have already got a quite different hi-definition
system that's got 1125 lines. Now, as you can see, the pictures on
there are quite superb!"""

It appears that maybe they still haven't got the joke ...

"""Ideal for those huge flat panels that we're all supposed to be
having in our living rooms in the 21st century"""

Well, at least they got that right!

On Feb 3, 2:11špm, Java Jive wrote:
"""The Japanese have already got a quite different hi-definition
system that's got 1125 lines. šNow, as you can see, the pictures on
there are quite superb!"""


I know the Japanese had that a lot earlier on, but also the French
were pusuing 819 line HiDef just after the war.

Wikipedia quote:-

In 1958, the U.S.S.R. created ôÒÁÎÓÆÏÒÍÁÔÏÒ (Transformer), the first
high-resolution (definition) television system capable of producing an
image composed of 1,125 lines of resolution for the purpose of
television conferences among military commands; as it was a military
product, it was not commercialised.[1]

In 1969, NHK of Japan first developed commercial, high-definition
television.

NHK are now trialling 8k4k 7,680 vertical and 4,320 horizontal lines

"Java Jive" wrote in message
...
This week's Click had an item on the history of TV, using clips from
Tomorrow's World (site's currently down so can't link). Without any
apparent humour or irony, they repeated a clip that caused us much
hilarity way back in 1986:

"""The Japanese have already got a quite different hi-definition
system that's got 1125 lines. Now, as you can see, the pictures on
there are quite superb!"""

It appears that maybe they still haven't got the joke ...

I think they were zooming in on it a bit. It would have been better if they
had made that clearer, and zoomed in on a standard definition screen to show
the difference.

Or they might have just been stupid.

--
Max Demian

Java Jive wrote:
This week's Click had an item on the history of TV, using clips from
Tomorrow's World (site's currently down so can't link). Without any
apparent humour or irony, they repeated a clip that caused us much
hilarity way back in 1986:

"""The Japanese have already got a quite different hi-definition
system that's got 1125 lines. Now, as you can see, the pictures on
there are quite superb!"""


Kinda reminds me about the new extension we had built on our offices
many years ago. In compliance with the regs, the new loo had to be built
to accommodate a disabled person with all the fittings and a wide door.

That was all well and good except that every other door in that corridor
was standard width.

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 23:25:38 +0000, Linker3000
wrote:

Java Jive wrote:

Kinda reminds me about the new extension we had built on our offices
many years ago. In compliance with the regs, the new loo had to be built
to accommodate a disabled person with all the fittings and a wide door.

That was all well and good except that every other door in that corridor
was standard width.

:-) LOL

On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 22:55:35 -0000, "Max Demian"
wrote:

I think they were zooming in on it a bit. It would have been better if they
had made that clearer, and zoomed in on a standard definition screen to show
the difference.

I've deleted the (modern) recording now, and the site is still down so
I can't check there either, but my recollection was that most of the
shot was of the full screen, even including the frame of the TV, and
they only zoomed in sufficiently just to exclude the frame just before
the (modern) report cut away, so effectively the 'superb' 1125 line
pictures were being shown to us at an even lower resolution than
normal 625 lines (and for a moment there I wondered whether some might
even have still been watching in 405, but VHF was switched off in Jan
1985).

Of course, the original report may have zoomed in a bit more, but I
doubt it can have been in any way convincing because I remember a
group of us discussing it with much mirth the next day.

As you say, there would have been some point in showing side by side
two zoomed screenshots of the same fragment of a picture in 625 and
1125, but unfortunately that's not what they did!

Or they might have just been stupid.

Yup!

In article ,
Linker3000 wrote:
Java Jive wrote:
This week's Click had an item on the history of TV, using clips from
Tomorrow's World (site's currently down so can't link). Without any
apparent humour or irony, they repeated a clip that caused us much
hilarity way back in 1986:

"""The Japanese have already got a quite different hi-definition
system that's got 1125 lines. Now, as you can see, the pictures on
there are quite superb!"""


Kinda reminds me about the new extension we had built on our offices
many years ago. In compliance with the regs, the new loo had to be built
to accommodate a disabled person with all the fittings and a wide door.

That was all well and good except that every other door in that corridor
was standard width.

I prefer the regulation that required our office photographic dark room to
have a glass panel in the door "so that in the event a fire evacuation, it
can be checked that no-one is in the room".

--
From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey"

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11

You used to be able to get 819 line French tv quite often in the south of
England as it used Band1. The channels were very big, 11 Mhz as I recall,
positive video, am sound.

I had a modified UK 405 line receiver, but it did not have the bandwidth to
get the full benefit, and needed sync andaspect ratio modifications, as
well as a different sound IF frequency to work.

Who could be bothered to watch Sacha Distel every night anyhow?

Brian

--
Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email.
graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them
Email:
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"madge" wrote in message
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On Feb 3, 2:11 pm, Java Jive wrote:
"""The Japanese have already got a quite different hi-definition
system that's got 1125 lines. Now, as you can see, the pictures on
there are quite superb!"""


I know the Japanese had that a lot earlier on, but also the French
were pusuing 819 line HiDef just after the war.

Wikipedia quote:-

In 1958, the U.S.S.R. created ôÒÁÎÓÆÏÒÍÁÔÏÒ (Transformer), the first
high-resolution (definition) television system capable of producing an
image composed of 1,125 lines of resolution for the purpose of
television conferences among military commands; as it was a military
product, it was not commercialised.[1]

In 1969, NHK of Japan first developed commercial, high-definition
television.

NHK are now trialling 8k4k 7,680 vertical and 4,320 horizontal lines

PS, the aspect ration was the same as ours a the time, but the picture got
smaller due to detuning of the eht generator.

Brian

--
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graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them
Email:
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________


"madge" wrote in message
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On Feb 3, 2:11 pm, Java Jive wrote:
"""The Japanese have already got a quite different hi-definition
system that's got 1125 lines. Now, as you can see, the pictures on
there are quite superb!"""


I know the Japanese had that a lot earlier on, but also the French
were pusuing 819 line HiDef just after the war.

Wikipedia quote:-

In 1958, the U.S.S.R. created ôÒÁÎÓÆÏÒÍÁÔÏÒ (Transformer), the first
high-resolution (definition) television system capable of producing an
image composed of 1,125 lines of resolution for the purpose of
television conferences among military commands; as it was a military
product, it was not commercialised.[1]

In 1969, NHK of Japan first developed commercial, high-definition
television.

NHK are now trialling 8k4k 7,680 vertical and 4,320 horizontal lines

Java Jive wrote:
This week's Click had an item on the history of TV, using clips from
Tomorrow's World (site's currently down so can't link). Without any
apparent humour or irony, they repeated a clip that caused us much
hilarity way back in 1986:

"""The Japanese have already got a quite different hi-definition
system that's got 1125 lines. Now, as you can see, the pictures on
there are quite superb!"""

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programme...ne/default.stm

2:35 in

I was involved in a small part with that 1986 Tomorrow's World programme.
The Beeb rang us up that morning urgently wanting an NTSC camera. Because the
1125 HD system ran at 30fp/s, the only way to display on it 625/50 without any
beating or flicker was to use an NTSC camera, and then standards convert its
output to 625/PAL.
That shot used that camera. I dragged it out of our warehouse, gave it a test
and a quick registration tweak, and off it went to TV Centre.


--
Mark
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