It never ceases to amaze me...

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:46:44 -0000, "Max Demian"
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Roderick Stewart wrote:
I *always* read instruction manuals, but generally the standard of
clarity is utterly appalling, so I'm not surprised that many people
give up all hope of finding anything helpful in them. Even after you've
discarded the 90% or so that isn't in English or doesn't apply to the
particular model of whatever it is you've bought, it's very rare that
what remains will explain in simple terms what you actually want to
know, and no absolute guarantee that it's correct either.

Bought a cordless screwdriver the other day

I've never seen a screwdriver that wasn't cordless.

http://www.screwfix.co.uk/cats/10251...d-Screwdrivers

Now you have!

Cheers,

Colin.

"Colin Stamp" wrote in message
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:46:44 -0000, "Max Demian"
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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Bought a cordless screwdriver the other day

I've never seen a screwdriver that wasn't cordless.

http://www.screwfix.co.uk/cats/10251...d-Screwdrivers

Now you have!

They look rather cumbersome. Why not just fit a screwdriver bit to an
electric drill?

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Max Demian

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:05:18 -0000, "Max Demian"
wrote:

"Colin Stamp" wrote in message
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:46:44 -0000, "Max Demian"
wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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Bought a cordless screwdriver the other day

I've never seen a screwdriver that wasn't cordless.

http://www.screwfix.co.uk/cats/10251...d-Screwdrivers

Now you have!

They look rather cumbersome. Why not just fit a screwdriver bit to an
electric drill?

I think that wouldn't be very controllable. Dedicated screwdrivers are
geared down more and have adjustable clutches, depth stops and things.
Being mains powered probably makes them lighter for an equivalent
power too.
They seem to be aimed at people who need to screw plasterboard to
studwork on building sites, so they need to put in dozens of screws
per minute and to do it practically continuously. Some of them even
take screws on a kind of plastic bandolier thing so you don't need to
pick the screws out of the box!

Mmmm tooooools )

Cheers,

Colin.

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:46:22 +0000, Colin Stamp
wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:05:18 -0000, "Max Demian"
wrote:

"Colin Stamp" wrote in message
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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:46:44 -0000, "Max Demian"
wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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Bought a cordless screwdriver the other day

I've never seen a screwdriver that wasn't cordless.

http://www.screwfix.co.uk/cats/10251...d-Screwdrivers

Now you have!

They look rather cumbersome. Why not just fit a screwdriver bit to an
electric drill?

I think that wouldn't be very controllable. Dedicated screwdrivers are
geared down more and have adjustable clutches, depth stops and things.
Being mains powered probably makes them lighter for an equivalent
power too.
They seem to be aimed at people who need to screw plasterboard to
studwork on building sites, so they need to put in dozens of screws
per minute and to do it practically continuously. Some of them even
take screws on a kind of plastic bandolier thing so you don't need to
pick the screws out of the box!

Mmmm tooooools )

Cheers,

Colin.
I use my drill as a screwdriver. It has a switch to flick it between
drilling speed and screwdriver speed. Very high torque as well. Have
to watch it when coming to the end of screwing ;-)

Marky P.

In article ,
Marky P wrote:
I use my drill as a screwdriver. It has a switch to flick it between
drilling speed and screwdriver speed. Very high torque as well. Have
to watch it when coming to the end of screwing ;-)

Most decent cordless drills designed for screwdriving have a slipping
clutch arrangement which is adjustable to set the maximum torque.

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*A day without sunshine is like... night.*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:46:31 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Marky P wrote:
I use my drill as a screwdriver. It has a switch to flick it between
drilling speed and screwdriver speed. Very high torque as well. Have
to watch it when coming to the end of screwing ;-)

Most decent cordless drills designed for screwdriving have a slipping
clutch arrangement which is adjustable to set the maximum torque.

I think mine does, but I didn't like the sound of it slipping when the
screw was tightened. Thought it was damaging the drill, byt probably
not.

Marky P.

On 31 Jan, 10:42, Marky P wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:46:31 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"

wrote:
In article ,
Marky P wrote:
I use my drill as a screwdriver. It has a switch to flick it between
drilling speed and screwdriver speed. Very high torque as well. Have
to watch it when coming to the end of screwing ;-)

Most decent cordless drills designed for screwdriving have a slipping
clutch arrangement which is adjustable to set the maximum torque.

I think mine does, but I didn't like the sound of it slipping when the
screw was tightened. Thought it was damaging the drill, byt probably
not.

Mine sounds very nasty when it reaches the required torque. Reminds me
of the few times my Car's ABS has kicked in while braking in an
emergency. Feels like something is wrong but works none the less.

Doc

Marky P wrote:

Colin.
I use my drill as a screwdriver. It has a switch to flick it between
drilling speed and screwdriver speed. Very high torque as well. Have
to watch it when coming to the end of screwing ;-)


I know... I know... (tears....)

Using my drill yesterday as a screwdriver to screw the toilet pan to the
floor, I stupidly went in on full speed and overdid it a wee bit.
Crrrraaaaaacccckkkk :-(((((

Why is it that I can't get that nasty sound and event out of my mind?
What on earth possesed me to do something so stupid with fragile china?

If I take the mick out other peoples inability to understand SCARTs and
instruction manuals (water of a ducks back to me - techno geek), then
they can take the mick out of the above.

I hold all plumbers and bathroom installers in high regard today. They
attend a customers premise and do a difficult job which could go pete
tong quite badly with lots of damaging water and sh1t all over the
place. Whether pin 19 of a Scart plug is doing its thing... nah;;;

Sanitation is the most important development for mankind that has
enabled its survial, so I'm told by some hollywood film I forget...

--
Adrian 'No Dite Coke Today' C

"Kay Robinson" wrote in message
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:55:54 +0000, Adrian C
sharpened a new quill and scratched:

--- bobbit

Sanitation is the most important development for mankind that has
enabled its survial, so I'm told by some hollywood film I forget...

According to a documentary I watched some months ago it's entirely the
opposite. Tests done showed that any sanitation unit installed within
a home caused contamination throughout the home whereas those (very
few these days) homes with only outside loos had virtually none. It
was fascinating and also rather disturbing :-(

Yes, it's contrary to common sense to have the ****ter in the house. One
worrying thing about motorhomes is the fact that the toilet is often very
close to the kitchen.

Bill

In article ,
Kay Robinson writes:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:55:54 +0000, Adrian C
sharpened a new quill and scratched:

--- bobbit

Sanitation is the most important development for mankind that has
enabled its survial, so I'm told by some hollywood film I forget...

According to a documentary I watched some months ago it's entirely the
opposite. Tests done showed that any sanitation unit installed within
a home caused contamination throughout the home whereas those (very
few these days) homes with only outside loos had virtually none. It
was fascinating and also rather disturbing :-(

It's certainly true that, with the introduction of the `water closet' our
Victorian ancestors were initially reluctant to allow them into their homes
for fear of `bad air'. Those outside toilets were a deliberate choice.
--
SAm.