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Old January 30th 08, 09:34 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Paul D.Smith
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All,

Just got a Humax 9200 and had the time to start setting it up. It's just
had the FTA Freeview Playback update but I know enough not to get too
excited.

So I try to record CSI on Five, 21:00 every Tuesday. Hurrah, it seems to
have the FP start/end tags; boo it doesn't have FP series link. So now I
have two options:

1. Every week I can set a new reservation (timed recording) and then the
Hummy will figure out the correct start/end time or...

2. I can set a single reservation and flag it to "record every week", at
which point the Hummy ignores the start/end flags. Presumably the start/end
tags are tied to a single specific episode of CSI.

Freeview Playback is never going to fly until the broadcasters start using
it properly.

I have suggested that Humax roll out "Freeview Playback+" whereby the
software makes an educated guess that "CSI next Tuesday" is "series linked"
to "CSI this week" based on the hints I provided (like "record every week
please"). That's a possible sticking-plaster but what is clearly wanted is
for broadcasters to get on board.

By comparison I have no trouble recording Raven on CBBC for my children
because the BBC have taken the trouble to set all the appropriate FP flags.

Paul DS


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Old January 30th 08, 10:16 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Wilf[_2_]
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Paul D.Smith wrote:
All,

Just got a Humax 9200 and had the time to start setting it up. It's just
had the FTA Freeview Playback update but I know enough not to get too
excited.

So I try to record CSI on Five, 21:00 every Tuesday. Hurrah, it seems to
have the FP start/end tags; boo it doesn't have FP series link. So now I
have two options:

1. Every week I can set a new reservation (timed recording) and then the
Hummy will figure out the correct start/end time or...

2. I can set a single reservation and flag it to "record every week", at
which point the Hummy ignores the start/end flags. Presumably the start/end
tags are tied to a single specific episode of CSI.

Freeview Playback is never going to fly until the broadcasters start using
it properly.

I have suggested that Humax roll out "Freeview Playback+" whereby the
software makes an educated guess that "CSI next Tuesday" is "series linked"
to "CSI this week" based on the hints I provided (like "record every week
please"). That's a possible sticking-plaster but what is clearly wanted is
for broadcasters to get on board.

By comparison I have no trouble recording Raven on CBBC for my children
because the BBC have taken the trouble to set all the appropriate FP flags.

Paul DS


You just have to accept, for now, that Five and others are not using
series link and so you have to use the other facilities of the Hummy to
record a series.

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Old January 30th 08, 10:32 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Paul D.Smith
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....snip...

You just have to accept, for now, that Five and others are not using
series link and so you have to use the other facilities of the Hummy to
record a series.


I know that, you know that, the masses won't and FP will be disclaimed as a
total failure all because it was not rolled out properly.

Paul DS.


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Old January 30th 08, 10:37 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
David Hearn
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Paul D.Smith wrote:
...snip...

You just have to accept, for now, that Five and others are not using
series link and so you have to use the other facilities of the Hummy to
record a series.


I know that, you know that, the masses won't and FP will be disclaimed as a
total failure all because it was not rolled out properly.

Paul DS.


I was impressed that Virgin 1 uses at least some of FP correctly it
seems. Last night I tried scheduling a recording which clashed with 2
other recordings, the Humax said so and said something like "Do I want
to record the alternative programme" at which point it changed the
recording of The Unit from, I think 9pm Wednesday to 8pm another day.

I was surprised that Virgin used some of these features - as I see it as
a bit of an obscure channel compared to the likes of BBC etc.

D
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Old January 30th 08, 12:00 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Woby Tide
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Default Freeview Playback doomed?

On Jan 30, 8:34*am, "Paul D.Smith" wrote:

Freeview Playback is never going to fly until the broadcasters start using
it properly.

I have suggested that Humax roll out "Freeview Playback+" whereby the
software makes an educated guess that "CSI next Tuesday" is "series linked"
to "CSI this week" based on the hints I provided (like "record every week
please"). *That's a possible sticking-plaster but what is clearly wanted is
for broadcasters to get on board.



Given the length of time it takes to get bugs/updates from the
manufacturers tested and released surely the easiest point of pressure
would be the broadcasters rather than hundreds of manufacturers
tweaking their products? If the manufacturers start doing, then the
broadcasters(ok some particular broadcasters) will just spend even
less time trying to actually provide up to date accurate/info. I'm
surprised that the regulators haven't actually started looking into it
more. Surely a 'standard' that is released(I assume it's optional
rather than mandatory is the fallback stance) should be able to lobby
for braodcasters to actually adhere to the benefitof the consumer.
Wishful thinking
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Old January 30th 08, 12:46 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default Freeview Playback doomed?

Someone suggested that csi may have some of its episodes either unfinished
or not supplied something to do with the industrial disputes in the states
at the moment.

Brian

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All,

Just got a Humax 9200 and had the time to start setting it up. It's just
had the FTA Freeview Playback update but I know enough not to get too
excited.

So I try to record CSI on Five, 21:00 every Tuesday. Hurrah, it seems to
have the FP start/end tags; boo it doesn't have FP series link. So now I
have two options:

1. Every week I can set a new reservation (timed recording) and then the
Hummy will figure out the correct start/end time or...

2. I can set a single reservation and flag it to "record every week", at
which point the Hummy ignores the start/end flags. Presumably the
start/end tags are tied to a single specific episode of CSI.

Freeview Playback is never going to fly until the broadcasters start using
it properly.

I have suggested that Humax roll out "Freeview Playback+" whereby the
software makes an educated guess that "CSI next Tuesday" is "series
linked" to "CSI this week" based on the hints I provided (like "record
every week please"). That's a possible sticking-plaster but what is
clearly wanted is for broadcasters to get on board.

By comparison I have no trouble recording Raven on CBBC for my children
because the BBC have taken the trouble to set all the appropriate FP
flags.

Paul DS



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Old January 30th 08, 01:21 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Paul Evans
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"David Hearn" wrote in message
...
Paul D.Smith wrote:
...snip...

You just have to accept, for now, that Five and others are not using
series link and so you have to use the other facilities of the Hummy to
record a series.


I know that, you know that, the masses won't and FP will be disclaimed as
a total failure all because it was not rolled out properly.

Paul DS.


I was impressed that Virgin 1 uses at least some of FP correctly it seems.
Last night I tried scheduling a recording which clashed with 2 other
recordings, the Humax said so and said something like "Do I want to record
the alternative programme" at which point it changed the recording of The
Unit from, I think 9pm Wednesday to 8pm another day.

I was surprised that Virgin used some of these features - as I see it as a
bit of an obscure channel compared to the likes of BBC etc.

D


In my experience, it seems to me that only the BBC and Virgin 1 use Freeview
Playback.. None of C4's range of identikit, timeshifted, space-hogging
channels do, and ITV, one of the organisations that pushed for FP in the
first place, haven't bothered either.

Paul.


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Old January 30th 08, 01:27 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Wilf[_2_]
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Paul Evans wrote:


In my experience, it seems to me that only the BBC and Virgin 1 use Freeview
Playback.. None of C4's range of identikit, timeshifted, space-hogging
channels do, and ITV, one of the organisations that pushed for FP in the
first place, haven't bothered either.

Paul.


Not so. I've been using Freeview Playback successfully to record the ER
series on Thursday nights on More 4

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Old January 30th 08, 02:13 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dickie mint
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There are several weeks old threads on Digital Spy - Usenet for Dummies
;-) on this topic.

I think Series Link has mixed blessings. Try to record only each
Wednesday BBC2 9pm Torchwood programme, for example. You can't. Thanks
to SL every variant in the week is recorded, included the dumbed down
kiddies version at 7pm!

Richard
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Old January 30th 08, 02:30 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Paul D.Smith
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"Dickie mint" wrote in message
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There are several weeks old threads on Digital Spy - Usenet for Dummies
;-) on this topic.

I think Series Link has mixed blessings. Try to record only each
Wednesday BBC2 9pm Torchwood programme, for example. You can't. Thanks to
SL every variant in the week is recorded, included the dumbed down kiddies
version at 7pm!


That has everything to do with broadcasters misusing it and nothing to do
with SL per se. Each variant should be a series of its own. Personal
judgement as to whether that is better or worse than no SL at all ;-).

Paul DS.


 




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