It never ceases to amaze me...

JNugent wrote:
My Sony set has about four SCART inputs and a Freeview tuner, all
selectable separately. On my set-up, you can certainly watch something
(including a recording) whilst dubbing from either PVR or Sky+ to the
DVD-R/HDD recorder. But I can understand that the set-up would confuse
some.

More recent sets, although they may have a few SCARTs - have dropped a
lot of configuration options to do with tuner/source signal routing, and
friendly things like reassigning selected SCARTS to numbered button
positions on the handset. A few weeks ago, I was investigating the
manual of a LG Plasma screen. The makers had thoughtfully decided that
the internal DTT tuner signal should remain just that - internal.

There are many users who have TVs with multiple scart sockets, but
prefer to use a cheapie push button SCART switch box, because "it just
works" without fuss for them. Often it turns out the input signals are
routed via the only non-RGB SCART.... :-(

And then there is a band of VCR users who still wire things together
using RF and ignore SCART completely...

What to do?

Insert "Gaelic Shrug" here

--
Adrian C

"Ron Lowe" ronATlowe-famlyDOTmeDOTukSPURIOUS wrote in message
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Col wrote:
I've just bought a DVD player and it had a type of plug Id
never seen before. There was what looked like a normal
plug but with nothing attached, and something that resembled
one of those two-pin shaver plugs. Upon attempting to plug
one into the other, it just fell out. WTF??
After a little fumbling the bag of the plug flipped open and it
was instantly obvious where the 'shaver' bit clipped in.
But if you've never seen one before.....

It should have been supplied assembled and sealed by a tamper proof screw
etc to conform to the requirement of having a 13 amp plug fitted for UK
sale.


Perhaps, but increasingly they are not.

We bought some sets of decorative lights for kids bedrooms on-line
recently, and they were all supplied with an adaptor to accept the
euro-plug and plug into a UK 13-amp socket which we had to fit ourselves.

Perhaps an area where trading standards need to pay some attention.

--
Ron



I've just bought a digital camera on line and it's clearly an import form
the USA (it even has the USA name for the camera - which is not the same as
the UK name). The battery charger comes with two flat blade-type pins with
holes in - typical USA sh1t mains plug (incidentally WTF ARE the holes
for?). Included in parcel (but not the camera packaging) was something that
looks like a shaver adaptor for good ol UK 240v AC outlets. The spindly
American thingies plug into the back (sort of) and it remains to be seen if
the entire assembly will stay together when the weight of a charging battery
is added. I suppose this is a long-winded way of saying if you buy on line
you could well get an import that doesn't comply with UK rules and regs.

Chas

I've just bought a DVD player and it had a type of plug Id
never seen before. There was what looked like a normal
plug but with nothing attached, and something that resembled
one of those two-pin shaver plugs.

It should have been supplied assembled and sealed by a tamper proof
screw
etc to conform to the requirement of having a 13 amp plug fitted for UK
sale.


Perhaps, but increasingly they are not.

We bought some sets of decorative lights for kids bedrooms on-line
recently, and they were all supplied with an adaptor to accept the
euro-plug and plug into a UK 13-amp socket which we had to fit ourselves.

Perhaps an area where trading standards need to pay some attention.

I've just bought a digital camera on line and it's clearly an import form
the USA (it even has the USA name for the camera - which is not the same
as the UK name). The battery charger comes with two flat blade-type pins
with holes in - typical USA sh1t mains plug (incidentally WTF ARE the
holes for?). Included in parcel (but not the camera packaging) was
something that looks like a shaver adaptor for good ol UK 240v AC outlets.
The spindly American thingies plug into the back (sort of) and it remains
to be seen if the entire assembly will stay together when the weight of a
charging battery is added. I suppose this is a long-winded way of saying
if you buy on line you could well get an import that doesn't comply with
UK rules and regs.

Chas


Indeed.

I also have a camera like that ( A Fuji Finepix. )
It came with a charger with fold-away US-style prongs and a shaver-style
adapter for UK use.

--
Ron

"Ron Lowe" ronATlowe-famlyDOTmeDOTukSPURIOUS wrote in message
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I've just bought a digital camera on line and it's clearly an import form
the USA (it even has the USA name for the camera - which is not the same
as the UK name). The battery charger comes with two flat blade-type pins
with holes in - typical USA sh1t mains plug (incidentally WTF ARE the
holes for?). Included in parcel (but not the camera packaging) was
something that looks like a shaver adaptor for good ol UK 240v AC
outlets. The spindly American thingies plug into the back (sort of) and
it remains to be seen if the entire assembly will stay together when the
weight of a charging battery is added. I suppose this is a long-winded
way of saying if you buy on line you could well get an import that
doesn't comply with UK rules and regs.

Chas


Indeed.

I also have a camera like that ( A Fuji Finepix. )
It came with a charger with fold-away US-style prongs and a shaver-style
adapter for UK use.

I bought a car from Germany and it ever time I look down at my sat nav it
sneaks across onto the wrong side of the road.

Bill

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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"Ron Lowe" ronATlowe-famlyDOTmeDOTukSPURIOUS wrote in message
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I've just bought a digital camera on line and it's clearly an import
form the USA (it even has the USA name for the camera - which is not the
same as the UK name). The battery charger comes with two flat
blade-type pins with holes in - typical USA sh1t mains plug
(incidentally WTF ARE the holes for?). Included in parcel (but not the
camera packaging) was something that looks like a shaver adaptor for
good ol UK 240v AC outlets. The spindly American thingies plug into the
back (sort of) and it remains to be seen if the entire assembly will
stay together when the weight of a charging battery is added. I suppose
this is a long-winded way of saying if you buy on line you could well
get an import that doesn't comply with UK rules and regs.

Chas


Indeed.

I also have a camera like that ( A Fuji Finepix. )
It came with a charger with fold-away US-style prongs and a shaver-style
adapter for UK use.

I bought a car from Germany and it ever time I look down at my sat nav it
sneaks across onto the wrong side of the road.

Bill


:-))

Chas

In message , Bill Wright
wrote


I bought a car from Germany and it ever time I look down at my sat nav it
sneaks across onto the wrong side of the road.

You've fitted the SatNav upside down.

--
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

In article ,
Chas Gill wrote:

I've just bought a digital camera on line and it's clearly an import form
the USA (it even has the USA name for the camera - which is not the same
as the UK name). The battery charger comes with two flat blade-type
pins with holes in - typical USA sh1t mains plug (incidentally WTF ARE
the holes for?).

The holes are there for a retaining device, such as a sprung ball. This
will also give a better current carrying contact are.

--
From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey"

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11

"Alan" wrote in message
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In message , Bill Wright
wrote


I bought a car from Germany and it ever time I look down at my sat nav it
sneaks across onto the wrong side of the road.

You've fitted the SatNav upside down.

That explains why I keep getting back before I set off.

Bill

"charles" wrote in message
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In article ,
Chas Gill wrote:

I've just bought a digital camera on line and it's clearly an import form
the USA (it even has the USA name for the camera - which is not the same
as the UK name). The battery charger comes with two flat blade-type
pins with holes in - typical USA sh1t mains plug (incidentally WTF ARE
the holes for?).

The holes are there for a retaining device, such as a sprung ball. This
will also give a better current carrying contact are.

--
From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey"

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11

Well, that explains that then. One of life's great mysteries solved,
thanks.

I assume that sockets that don't have the sprung ball retainers are much
more numerous than those that do, because just about every US (how aptly
named) socket I've ever come across spits the plug out at the slightest
provocation.

Cheers

Chas

In article , Kay Robinson wrote:

Real men don't read instruction manuals.

True, they usually spend hours on the phone to me asking 'how do I do
(whatever)?' One friend make a deliberate point of throwing all
leaflets, booklets etc out with the wrapping.

I *always* read instruction manuals, but generally the standard of
clarity is utterly appalling, so I'm not surprised that many people
give up all hope of finding anything helpful in them. Even after you've
discarded the 90% or so that isn't in English or doesn't apply to the
particular model of whatever it is you've bought, it's very rare that
what remains will explain in simple terms what you actually want to
know, and no absolute guarantee that it's correct either.

Rod.