SCART questions

"Alan Pemberton" wrote in message
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Alan Pemberton wrote:

It may be worth replacing all your cables with known decent 21-line
jobbies. They are not expensive. My favourites are the flat cables
supplied by CPC. They are about 3-5 quid depending on length, the
shortest being a handy 75cm, and they fit more snuggly than the
round-cable ones.

Having recently recommended these I now have to think again, as the
latest specimen I ordered was very poor in comparison with those
supplied previously. I ordered a 3m length and the cable was the thin
type used only on the 75cm lengths previously. Also the plugs are a very
poor fit and I found it impossible to obtain a correct RGB signal.
Wiggling either plug caused the signal to vary greatly.

A couple of 75cm cables I ordered at the same time appear ok, having the
old-style plugs.

Anyone who has used this range in the past might want to check with CPC
before ordering new stock.

Oh dear me isn't it bloody marvellous! You just get settled on a product and
suddenly they change it, and it's always for the worse.

Bill

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 15:34:22 -0000, "Bill Wright"
wrote:


"Alan Pemberton" wrote in message
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Alan Pemberton wrote:

It may be worth replacing all your cables with known decent 21-line
jobbies. They are not expensive. My favourites are the flat cables
supplied by CPC. They are about 3-5 quid depending on length, the
shortest being a handy 75cm, and they fit more snuggly than the
round-cable ones.

Having recently recommended these I now have to think again, as the
latest specimen I ordered was very poor in comparison with those
supplied previously. I ordered a 3m length and the cable was the thin
type used only on the 75cm lengths previously. Also the plugs are a very
poor fit and I found it impossible to obtain a correct RGB signal.
Wiggling either plug caused the signal to vary greatly.

A couple of 75cm cables I ordered at the same time appear ok, having the
old-style plugs.

Anyone who has used this range in the past might want to check with CPC
before ordering new stock.

Oh dear me isn't it bloody marvellous! You just get settled on a product and
suddenly they change it, and it's always for the worse.

Bill

I had that problem with glossy printer paper. I used to buy Epson
high gloss paper that worked brilliantly with my printer. Then they
discontinued it and brought out another glossy paper that was crap.

Marky P.

"Marky P" wrote in message
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I had that problem with glossy printer paper. I used to buy Epson
high gloss paper that worked brilliantly with my printer. Then they
discontinued it and brought out another glossy paper that was crap.

The most annoying example of this recently has been the coax line connectors
from Antiference. You know, the thing that joins two plugs together. The old
product was absolutely perfect, but they've gone onto a dreadful thing that
doesn't have the flexibility to open up to accept the plugs, so you just
can't push the plug in. If anyone here knows of a decent belling line
connector please let me know.

A while back Taylors stopped doing decent quality 'f' screw on plugs and
started using some abolutely ****ty ones. Funnily enough I found out that
the ones sold by Anti are identical to the old Taylor ones, but cheaper.

Bill

Bill Wright wrote:


Oh dear me isn't it bloody marvellous! You just get settled on a
product and suddenly they change it, and it's always for the worse.

Bill

Whenever I see the words "new" and "improved" on a pack of something I put
it back on the shelf.

--
Jeff
(cut "thetape" to reply)

In article
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Alan Pemberton wrote:
Which reminds me that at least one of the CPC 75cm flat scart leads had
some of the coax cable wired 'upside down' so that the screens were
carrying signal.

I had a normal fully populated and screened 'round' working SCART apart to
shorten it and non of the co-ax colours agreed with their function.
Perhaps a colour blind wireman working from home?

--
*Dance like nobody's watching.

Dave Plowman London SW
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"Alan Pemberton" wrote in message
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Bill Wright wrote:

Oh dear me isn't it bloody marvellous! You just get settled on a product
and
suddenly they change it, and it's always for the worse.

Which reminds me that at least one of the CPC 75cm flat scart leads had
some of the coax cable wired 'upside down' so that the screens were
carrying signal. Here's how I traced the connections out some time ago:

CPC 75cm flat scart cable connections

White 2 (1) Right in (out)
braid 4 Audio return

Dark green 6 (3) Left in (out)
braid 4 Audio return

Green 3 (6) Left out (in)
braid 4 Audio return

Pink 1 (2) Right out (in)
braid 4 Audio return

Light blue 7 Blue video in/out
braid 5 Blue video in/out return

Ochre 10 Q-link data
braid 8 AV/WS switching

Yellow 11 Green video in/out
braid 9 Green video in/out return

Mauve 14 AV/WS switching/data [Fast blanking] return
braid 12 Data

Grey 15 Red video/chroma in/out
braid 13 Red video/chroma in/out return

Red 18 Fast blanking [& CVBS/luma in] return
braid 16 Fast blanking/RGB switching)

Brown 19 (20) CVBS/luma out (in)
braid 17 CVBS/luma [out] return

Blue 20 (19) CVBS/luma in (out)
braid 17 CVBS/luma [out] return

Black 21 Chassis

Oh that's just great!

I had some back-to-back scart sockets wired pin 1 to pin 1 and so on.

Bill

Oh dear me isn't it bloody marvellous! You just get settled on a product and
suddenly they change it, and it's always for the worse.

Bill

Seagate have always had a reputation for reliable hard drives - until
now.

A few comments on the web suggest the recent ones from China have to
be avoided at all cost.

GrahamC

"Graham C" wrote in message
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Oh dear me isn't it bloody marvellous! You just get settled on a product
and
suddenly they change it, and it's always for the worse.

Bill

Seagate have always had a reputation for reliable hard drives - until
now.

Build up a good name over many years and lose it in a day. How many times
has greed and short termism led to that?

Bill

In article o.uk.invalid,
Alan Pemberton wrote:
I had a normal fully populated and screened 'round' working SCART apart to
shorten it and non of the co-ax colours agreed with their function.
Perhaps a colour blind wireman working from home?

The pin-out I gave was for the CPC 75cm flat-cable scart lead which uses
a ribbon of 12 fine coax cables and an earth lead. There's no industry
colour code standard as far as I know for coax cables. But ofter there's
soem attempt to match the RGB pins to similar dielectric hues, and the
CVBS in/out wires are often yellow and white.

Yes - this one had red green blue orange white and black co-axes. Just no
rhyme or rhythm to the way they were connected.

--
*'ome is where you 'ang your @ *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.