Save HD-DVD (Warner Brothers, The Consumer Has Not "Clearly" Chosen Blu-Ray) Thousands are signing.

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On Jan 22, 8:56*am, BDK wrote:
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On Jan 22, 12:02 am, "Gravity" wrote:
http://www.petitiononline.com/SAVEHDD/petition.html

If you support HD-DVD and or multiple formats in the future consider signing
this petition.
Almost 12,000 signatures and word is that WB and other studios have noticed
and it watching closely..and may reverse it's stance.
Consumer backlash is very strong in support of HD-DVD.
Over 1 million dedicated players sold so far is not a failure.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...ave_HD_DVD_Pet...

Petitions don't work. *Why do you think they cancelled Family Guy or
Arrested Development in spite of the outpouring of support?

Family Guy went back on.

Did the petition stop it from being cancelled? Just because there was
a reversal of sentiment LATER does not change the fact that the
numerous petitions did not stop anything.

You think it would have ever got back on without the petitions?

BDK



But HD DVD is Dead Disc Spinning, I'm afraid. Not that it had much of a
chance anyway. Going up against the Sony/Panasonic/whoever alliance
pretty much doomed it at birth.

Toshiba and the other HD DVD partners should have learned from VHS/BETA..
Seems like Sony did.

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"SpanishTeacher" wrote in message
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On Jan 22, 11:42 am, Agent_C wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:19:05 -0500, Peter A
wrote:

There are at least 2 dual format DVD players available. Buy one of them,
forget about the format wars, and enjoy your TV.

That's my thinking as well. The players were drastically discounted
over the past several months, so I bought a Toshiba HD-DVD player and
a Sony Blu-Ray machine. The format war can go on for as long as it has
to and I really couldn't give a sh*t.

A_C

You bought both? I just saw a dual format player in Best Buy for less
than $350.

Do you remember the model because that sounds tempting.

SpanishTeacher wrote:
Petitions don't work. Why do you think they cancelled Family Guy or
Arrested Development in spite of the outpouring of support?

Don't forget the grand-daddy of them all - Star Trek.

None of which changes the fact that online petitions are a joke. If you
the OP really wants to get the companies' attention, you're going to have
to go at this with pen, paper, and a pay for a stamp. Maybe if the
parties involved got a millions of letters, they'd reconsider going with
blu-ray....at least until the next round of brib^H^H^H^Hcorporate gifts
comes around.

Despite the FUD from the companies, the choice of which HD format is going
to win was NEVER in the hands of the consumers. It's ALWAYS been up to
the retailers and studios. This is why releasing both formats into the
marketplace was nothing but a waste of everyone's time and money - not to
mention all the confusion it has caused.

Stupid video industry... You'd think they would have learned their lesson
about foisting multiple formats on the market from VHS/Beta, SACD/DVD-A,
and DVD-R/DVD+R. And we're talking about the SAME COMPANIES in some cases
too! Stupid, stupid stupid...

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It's not broken. It's...advanced.

On Jan 22, 12:19*pm, Peter A wrote:

Why all this fighting over HD-DVD vs. Blu-ray? No intelligent person
gives a sh*t. A good movie on a scratchy old VHS tape is still a good
movie, and a bad movie on the latest technologically superior format is
still a bad movie.

A good movie on a scratchy old VHS tape may still be a good movie, and
a bad movie on the latest technologically superior format may still be
a bad movie, BUT a good movie on a superior format is better than that
same good movie on VHS and a bad movie on a scratchy old VHS is worse
than that same bad movie on a superior format.

There may be some nostalgia buffs out there who disagree, but they're
definitely in the minority.

-kastnna (owner of neither format until this is definitely over)

In alt.games.video.xbox BDK wrote:
Petitions don't work. Why do you think they cancelled Family Guy or
Arrested Development in spite of the outpouring of support?


Family Guy went back on.

Yes - only AFTER Fox sold the syndication rights to Adult Swim where the
show quickly became one of the network's top rated programs.

Ditto with Futurama. Fox hated it, even though it was popular, and even
won awards. So naturally, Fox cancelled it. Later it too went to Adult
Swim, where it also became one of the network's top rated programs.

Toshiba and the other HD DVD partners should have learned from VHS/BETA.
Seems like Sony did.

If Sony and the other bozos learned from VHS/Beta, they would have worked
out their differences BEFORE they launched. Foisting multiple formats
onto the market just causes consumer confusion and slower adoption. The
main reason DVD was the power house it was, was because there was only 1
format - DVD. That's it. No format war, no VHS/Beta part 2. Just DVD.

Yes, Divx came along slightly later, but DVD was already out, understood,
and well on its way to becoming mainstream. Almost everyone saw Divx as
the ****-poor inferior format to DVD that it was, which is why it died off
almost as quickly as it had appeared.

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It's not broken. It's...advanced.

"Peter A" wrote in message
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In article ,
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he only thing that can realistically save HD-DVD as a format is the
continued support of Universal and Paramount and the universal adoption
of
dual-format players by the consumer. However, even in this theoretical
event, HD-DVD would survive as a secondary format. It's a shame, I really
liked HD-DVD a lot.



Why all this fighting over HD-DVD vs. Blu-ray? No intelligent person
gives a sh*t. A good movie on a scratchy old VHS tape is still a good
movie, and a bad movie on the latest technologically superior format is
still a bad movie.

There are at least 2 dual format DVD players available. Buy one of them,
forget about the format wars, and enjoy your TV.



--
Peter Aitken

Beta Ray.

"Doug Jacobs" wrote in message
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SpanishTeacher wrote:
Petitions don't work. Why do you think they cancelled Family Guy or
Arrested Development in spite of the outpouring of support?

Don't forget the grand-daddy of them all - Star Trek.

None of which changes the fact that online petitions are a joke. If you
the OP really wants to get the companies' attention, you're going to have
to go at this with pen, paper, and a pay for a stamp. Maybe if the
parties involved got a millions of letters, they'd reconsider going with
blu-ray....at least until the next round of brib^H^H^H^Hcorporate gifts
comes around.

Despite the FUD from the companies, the choice of which HD format is going
to win was NEVER in the hands of the consumers. It's ALWAYS been up to
the retailers and studios. This is why releasing both formats into the
marketplace was nothing but a waste of everyone's time and money - not to
mention all the confusion it has caused.

Stupid video industry... You'd think they would have learned their lesson
about foisting multiple formats on the market from VHS/Beta, SACD/DVD-A,
and DVD-R/DVD+R. And we're talking about the SAME COMPANIES in some cases
too! Stupid, stupid stupid...

--
It's not broken. It's...advanced.

HD DVD was ganing goround fast and Beta Ray people knew it. They had to do
something drastic = lots of $$$$$
Warner preferred the HD-DVD, always did. But 150 million is alot of money.

In alt.games.video.xbox BDK wrote:

Did the petition stop it from being cancelled? Just because there was
a reversal of sentiment LATER does not change the fact that the
numerous petitions did not stop anything.

You think it would have ever got back on without the petitions?

It wasn't the petitions that got Family Guy back on the air. It was money.

You could say the same thing was true when Sci-Fi cancelled their top
program, Farscape. People not only signed petitions and wrote letters -
they called their cable and satellite providers saying they would cancel
their subscription if the show was indeed taken off the air.

While Sci-Fi relented...sort of...by funding the final mini-series/movie
to be filmed, I think the damage was already done, and Sci-Fi lost a good
chunk of its viewers. Of course, them moving away from their established
sci-fi/fantasy roots to showing things like bogus ghost hunters, and
wrestling (WTF?!?) didn't help things either... In fact, I have to wonder
why is it that Spike TV shows more sci-fi than the sci-fi channel
nowadays. Pretty pathetic.

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It's not broken. It's...advanced.

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 07:02:10 GMT, "Gravity"
wrote:


http://www.petitiononline.com/SAVEHDD/petition.html

If you support HD-DVD and or multiple formats in the future consider signing
this petition.
Almost 12,000 signatures and word is that WB and other studios have noticed
and it watching closely..and may reverse it's stance.
Consumer backlash is very strong in support of HD-DVD.
Over 1 million dedicated players sold so far is not a failure.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...(UPDATED)/1374

It's so cute when people like you guys try to band together.

Consumer opinion doesn't matter, copy protection is what matters!



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On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:21:32 -0000, Doug Jacobs
wrote:

Ditto with Futurama. Fox hated it, even though it was popular, and even
won awards. So naturally, Fox cancelled it. Later it too went to Adult
Swim, where it also became one of the network's top rated programs.

Futurama was hated because the Simpsons was better. Nowadaya, the
Simpsons suck for the most part and Futurama (even the formerly sucky
ones) are better entertainment. One could argue that Futurama was
ahead of it's time

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