Could analogue tellys be returned as not fit for purpose?

"(not quite so) Fat Sam" wrote in
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Dave Farrance wrote:
Currys, Dixons and PC World are to drop analogue-only tellys and
DVD-recorders for units with built-in digital Freeview tuners.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7202014.stm

About time too. But it amazes me that anybody is selling analogue
tellys when the analogue-switchoff has already started. There's
still elderly and technically-declined people buying analogue-only
tellys with no idea that the tuner is going to stop working

No...The tuner is not going to stop working.
There might not be a signal there for the tuner to recieve, but the tuner
will still be working, and should someone start broadcasting a signal
within range, the tuner will start to pick it up.
It's entirely likely that once the big TV channels stop using the analogue
system, small amateur telly stations will start using it instead. There's
already a growing amateur movement in this area.
Is this a fact?

-- and
they're exactly the people that'll have difficulty with setting-up
and using a set-top-box.

With most set top boxes, there is no setting up, as the service provider
generally sends out an engineer to install the box and show you how it
works. Even if it's a freeview one, you can normally ask the shop you'er
buying from to send out or reccomend an engineer to fit it for you.

So can they return analogue tellys and
DVDRs when they discover that they've become unusable for them -- as
not fit for the stated purpose

But they are fit for the stated purpose.
Their stated purpose is to recive and display an analogue TV signal.
This analogue TV signal is created by a set top box which converts it from
a digital TV signal.

I thought the idea was that once the analogue goes off, there is more room
for the digital and powers can go up. I don't think any legal small tv
operation could be run, due to interference problems, and any pirate might
make the problem worse on tv than it already is on fm radio, especially at
weekends and bank holidays when every drug cartel runs a station it seems.

Brian

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"(not quite so) Fat Sam" wrote in
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Dave Farrance wrote:
Currys, Dixons and PC World are to drop analogue-only tellys and
DVD-recorders for units with built-in digital Freeview tuners.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7202014.stm

About time too. But it amazes me that anybody is selling analogue
tellys when the analogue-switchoff has already started. There's
still elderly and technically-declined people buying analogue-only
tellys with no idea that the tuner is going to stop working

No...The tuner is not going to stop working.
There might not be a signal there for the tuner to recieve, but the tuner
will still be working, and should someone start broadcasting a signal
within range, the tuner will start to pick it up.
It's entirely likely that once the big TV channels stop using the
analogue system, small amateur telly stations will start using it
instead. There's already a growing amateur movement in this area.
Is this a fact?

-- and
they're exactly the people that'll have difficulty with setting-up
and using a set-top-box.

With most set top boxes, there is no setting up, as the service provider
generally sends out an engineer to install the box and show you how it
works. Even if it's a freeview one, you can normally ask the shop you'er
buying from to send out or reccomend an engineer to fit it for you.

So can they return analogue tellys and
DVDRs when they discover that they've become unusable for them -- as
not fit for the stated purpose

But they are fit for the stated purpose.
Their stated purpose is to recive and display an analogue TV signal.
This analogue TV signal is created by a set top box which converts it
from a digital TV signal.

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:51:19 -0000, "/\\BratMan/\\"
wrote:


"(not quite so) Fat Sam" wrote in
message ...
Dave Farrance wrote:
Currys, Dixons and PC World are to drop analogue-only tellys and
DVD-recorders for units with built-in digital Freeview tuners.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7202014.stm

About time too. But it amazes me that anybody is selling analogue
tellys when the analogue-switchoff has already started. There's
still elderly and technically-declined people buying analogue-only
tellys with no idea that the tuner is going to stop working

No...The tuner is not going to stop working.
There might not be a signal there for the tuner to recieve, but the tuner
will still be working, and should someone start broadcasting a signal
within range, the tuner will start to pick it up.
It's entirely likely that once the big TV channels stop using the analogue
system, small amateur telly stations will start using it instead. There's
already a growing amateur movement in this area.

Is this a fact?

If you are going to put a four word reply in the middle of a post of
several paras could you please snip the part below .:-)

Stuart

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:51:19 -0000, "/\\BratMan/\\"
wrote:


"(not quite so) Fat Sam" wrote in
message ...
Dave Farrance wrote:
Currys, Dixons and PC World are to drop analogue-only tellys and
DVD-recorders for units with built-in digital Freeview tuners.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7202014.stm

About time too. But it amazes me that anybody is selling analogue
tellys when the analogue-switchoff has already started. There's
still elderly and technically-declined people buying analogue-only
tellys with no idea that the tuner is going to stop working

No...The tuner is not going to stop working.
There might not be a signal there for the tuner to recieve, but the tuner
will still be working, and should someone start broadcasting a signal
within range, the tuner will start to pick it up.
It's entirely likely that once the big TV channels stop using the analogue
system, small amateur telly stations will start using it instead. There's
already a growing amateur movement in this area.
Is this a fact?

-- and
they're exactly the people that'll have difficulty with setting-up
and using a set-top-box.

With most set top boxes, there is no setting up, as the service provider
generally sends out an engineer to install the box and show you how it
works. Even if it's a freeview one, you can normally ask the shop you'er
buying from to send out or reccomend an engineer to fit it for you.

So can they return analogue tellys and
DVDRs when they discover that they've become unusable for them -- as
not fit for the stated purpose

But they are fit for the stated purpose.
Their stated purpose is to recive and display an analogue TV signal.
This analogue TV signal is created by a set top box which converts it from
a digital TV signal.

More importantly if the set has a SCART socket (as almost all do) you
could continue to use it with a digital decoder. So it will continue
fulfil its purpose as a television.

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"(not quite so) Fat Sam" wrote in
message ...
Dave Farrance wrote:
Currys, Dixons and PC World are to drop analogue-only tellys and
DVD-recorders for units with built-in digital Freeview tuners.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7202014.stm

About time too. But it amazes me that anybody is selling analogue
tellys when the analogue-switchoff has already started. There's
still elderly and technically-declined people buying analogue-only
tellys with no idea that the tuner is going to stop working

Actually analogue TVs are very useful for Laserdisc owning opera
lovers who want to read the teletext subtitles.

But I realise we are a dying breed (possibly literally).

--
Max Demian

/\BratMan/\ wrote:
"(not quite so) Fat Sam" wrote in
message ...
Dave Farrance wrote:
Currys, Dixons and PC World are to drop analogue-only tellys and
DVD-recorders for units with built-in digital Freeview tuners.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7202014.stm

About time too. But it amazes me that anybody is selling analogue
tellys when the analogue-switchoff has already started. There's
still elderly and technically-declined people buying analogue-only
tellys with no idea that the tuner is going to stop working

No...The tuner is not going to stop working.
There might not be a signal there for the tuner to recieve, but the
tuner will still be working, and should someone start broadcasting a
signal within range, the tuner will start to pick it up.
It's entirely likely that once the big TV channels stop using the
analogue system, small amateur telly stations will start using it
instead. There's already a growing amateur movement in this area.
Is this a fact?


Oh yes. There are a couple of amateur radio societies who are dippingtheir
toes into these waters, and they have websites. I remember reading them
about a year ago and found it really interesting - if a little
technicologically over my head.
I can't remember the URL's off the top of my head, but I do have old
bookmarks archived on backup CD's, so I'll see if I can fish them out for
you.

(not quite so) Fat Sam wrote:

/\BratMan/\ wrote:
"(not quite so) Fat Sam" wrote in
message ...
Dave Farrance wrote:
Currys, Dixons and PC World are to drop analogue-only tellys and
DVD-recorders for units with built-in digital Freeview tuners.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7202014.stm

About time too. But it amazes me that anybody is selling
analogue tellys when the analogue-switchoff has already
started. There's still elderly and technically-declined people
buying analogue-only tellys with no idea that the tuner is
going to stop working

No...The tuner is not going to stop working.
There might not be a signal there for the tuner to recieve, but
the tuner will still be working, and should someone start
broadcasting a signal within range, the tuner will start to pick
it up. It's entirely likely that once the big TV channels stop
using the analogue system, small amateur telly stations will
start using it instead. There's already a growing amateur
movement in this area.
Is this a fact?


Oh yes. There are a couple of amateur radio societies who are
dippingtheir toes into these waters, and they have websites. I
remember reading them about a year ago and found it really
interesting - if a little technicologically over my head. I can't
remember the URL's off the top of my head, but I do have old
bookmarks archived on backup CD's, so I'll see if I can fish them out
for you.

Amateur TV has been going since the 1940s. On the amateur bands of
course with repeaters.
See http://www.batc.org.uk/

Some are now using digital but using the satellite modulation system
(DVB-S) not DTT. (DVBS-T)

http://www.gb3hv.com/index.html



--
Ashley
For Windsor Weather see www.snglinks.com/wx

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:32:06 -0000, "Max Demian"
wrote:

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"(not quite so) Fat Sam" wrote in
message ...
Dave Farrance wrote:
Currys, Dixons and PC World are to drop analogue-only tellys and
DVD-recorders for units with built-in digital Freeview tuners.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7202014.stm

About time too. But it amazes me that anybody is selling analogue
tellys when the analogue-switchoff has already started. There's
still elderly and technically-declined people buying analogue-only
tellys with no idea that the tuner is going to stop working

Actually analogue TVs are very useful for Laserdisc owning opera
lovers who want to read the teletext subtitles.

But I realise we are a dying breed (possibly literally).

Laserdisc players were designed to be used with 4:3 tellys, even
though they mostly contained widescreen films, so when viewing 'zoomed
in' on a widescreen telly, you would lose any subtitles.

Marky P.

"(not quite so) Fat Sam" wrote in
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/\BratMan/\ wrote:
"(not quite so) Fat Sam" wrote in
message ...
Dave Farrance wrote:
Currys, Dixons and PC World are to drop analogue-only tellys and
DVD-recorders for units with built-in digital Freeview tuners.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7202014.stm

About time too. But it amazes me that anybody is selling analogue
tellys when the analogue-switchoff has already started. There's
still elderly and technically-declined people buying analogue-only
tellys with no idea that the tuner is going to stop working

No...The tuner is not going to stop working.
There might not be a signal there for the tuner to recieve, but the
tuner will still be working, and should someone start broadcasting a
signal within range, the tuner will start to pick it up.
It's entirely likely that once the big TV channels stop using the
analogue system, small amateur telly stations will start using it
instead. There's already a growing amateur movement in this area.
Is this a fact?


Oh yes. There are a couple of amateur radio societies who are dippingtheir
toes into these waters, and they have websites. I remember reading them
about a year ago and found it really interesting - if a little
technicologically over my head.
I can't remember the URL's off the top of my head, but I do have old
bookmarks archived on backup CD's, so I'll see if I can fish them out for
you.


Amateur Television (ATV) has existed for decades. In addition to other
bands, the 70cm band has been used for ATV activity and this band
is situated just below the low-frequency end of the UHF broadcast band.
Some domestic TV sets will tune down to these frequencies and receive
these transmissions so in this respect you may be right, but I wonder
if you are confusing legal amateur transmissions with illegal pirate
broadcasts
or even RSL stations like Channel M which are far from amateur.

--
Graham

%Profound_observation%

Graham. wrote:
"(not quite so) Fat Sam" wrote in
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/\BratMan/\ wrote:
"(not quite so) Fat Sam" wrote
in message ...
Dave Farrance wrote:
Currys, Dixons and PC World are to drop analogue-only tellys and
DVD-recorders for units with built-in digital Freeview tuners.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7202014.stm

About time too. But it amazes me that anybody is selling analogue
tellys when the analogue-switchoff has already started. There's
still elderly and technically-declined people buying analogue-only
tellys with no idea that the tuner is going to stop working

No...The tuner is not going to stop working.
There might not be a signal there for the tuner to recieve, but the
tuner will still be working, and should someone start broadcasting
a signal within range, the tuner will start to pick it up.
It's entirely likely that once the big TV channels stop using the
analogue system, small amateur telly stations will start using it
instead. There's already a growing amateur movement in this area.
Is this a fact?


Oh yes. There are a couple of amateur radio societies who are
dippingtheir toes into these waters, and they have websites. I
remember reading them about a year ago and found it really
interesting - if a little technicologically over my head.
I can't remember the URL's off the top of my head, but I do have old
bookmarks archived on backup CD's, so I'll see if I can fish them
out for you.


Amateur Television (ATV) has existed for decades. In addition to other
bands, the 70cm band has been used for ATV activity and this band
is situated just below the low-frequency end of the UHF broadcast
band. Some domestic TV sets will tune down to these frequencies and
receive these transmissions so in this respect you may be right, but
I wonder if you are confusing legal amateur transmissions with
illegal pirate broadcasts

Maybe...I'm often confused :-)