Sky HD boxes to get upgraded EPG in 2008

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No mention of increased functionality. I have recently moved to
skyhd.
Sky+ and the epg are terrible. I use my tivo to schedule all the
shows,
and use it as i did before. Whenever a hd channel is recorded i have
a
record signal sent to the skyhd box to make sure it is recorded in
hd.
Slightly clumsy, but sky+ functionality is laughable.

Gaz

Absolute bullsh*t

Of course it is. I have both systems, why would i lie? Now with HD, i
would
love to be able to dump tivo, but sky+ makes me blush, how basic and
unsophisticated it is.

Gaz


Same here. My original intention was to replace my TiVo with Sky HD,
but I
just couldn't bring myself to be without the TiVo functionality. I only
watch/record HD stuff on my Sky HD or if there's a non-repeated clash
that
TiVo can't cope with.

Get yourself the modified irblast software for tivo it will
automatically
send a record code to the hd box for you when a hd is on.....

So far it is reliable.. I have been getting my fill of HD movies...

Cheers, I'll look into that.
--
Sean Black

I agree completely. For ease of use the Tivo interface leaves Sky+ behind
(I have both).

Why Sky+ can't take some pointers (without infringing copyright) from the

you cannot copyright a "look and feel" (something Apple spent a lot of money
on finding out).

tim

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No mention of increased functionality. I have recently
moved to skyhd. Sky+ and the epg are terrible. I use
my tivo to schedule all the shows, and use it as i did
before. Whenever a hd channel is recorded i have a
record signal sent to the skyhd box to make sure it is
recorded in hd. Slightly clumsy, but sky+
functionality is laughable.

Gaz

Absolute bullsh*t

Of course it is. I have both systems, why would i lie? Now
with HD, i would
love to be able to dump tivo, but sky+ makes me blush, how
basic and unsophisticated it is.

Gaz


Same here. My original intention was to replace my TiVo with
Sky HD, but I just couldn't bring myself to be without the
TiVo functionality. I only watch/record HD stuff on my Sky HD
or if there's a non-repeated clash that TiVo can't cope with.

Get yourself the modified irblast software for tivo it will
automatically send a record code to the hd box for you when a
hd is on.....

So far it is reliable.. I have been getting my fill of HD
movies...

Cheers, I'll look into that.
-- Sean Black

I agree completely. For ease of use the Tivo interface leaves Sky+
behind (I have both).

Why Sky+ can't take some pointers (without infringing copyright)
from the

you cannot copyright a "look and feel" (something Apple spent a lot
of money on finding out).

tim

Here's a list of TiVo's patents:

http://tinyurl.com/2cyt43

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No mention of increased functionality. I have recently
moved to skyhd. Sky+ and the epg are terrible. I use
my tivo to schedule all the shows, and use it as i did
before. Whenever a hd channel is recorded i have a
record signal sent to the skyhd box to make sure it is
recorded in hd. Slightly clumsy, but sky+
functionality is laughable.

Gaz

Absolute bullsh*t

Of course it is. I have both systems, why would i lie? Now
with HD, i would
love to be able to dump tivo, but sky+ makes me blush, how
basic and unsophisticated it is.

Gaz


Same here. My original intention was to replace my TiVo with
Sky HD, but I just couldn't bring myself to be without the
TiVo functionality. I only watch/record HD stuff on my Sky HD
or if there's a non-repeated clash that TiVo can't cope with.

Get yourself the modified irblast software for tivo it will
automatically send a record code to the hd box for you when a
hd is on.....

So far it is reliable.. I have been getting my fill of HD
movies...

Cheers, I'll look into that.
-- Sean Black

I agree completely. For ease of use the Tivo interface leaves Sky+
behind (I have both).

Why Sky+ can't take some pointers (without infringing copyright)
from the

you cannot copyright a "look and feel" (something Apple spent a lot
of money on finding out).

tim

Here's a list of TiVo's patents:

http://tinyurl.com/2cyt43

US, I presume?

In the US you can go and get a patent on something that's already available
in the shops, and they won't notice.

tim

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Get yourself the modified irblast software for tivo it will
automatically
send a record code to the hd box for you when a hd is on.....


Can you provide a link to this software? Will it work on Series 1 UK
TIvos?.

Thanks.

Yes, it is specifically designed for uk tivo, it was originally used to get
rid of the red interactive spot, and then modified to send the four pin
numbers, and now to send the signal to the sky+ to record on hd channels.

Do you have your Tivo networked??
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=333397

Gaz

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No mention of increased functionality. I have recently moved to
skyhd.
Sky+ and the epg are terrible. I use my tivo to schedule all the
shows,
and use it as i did before. Whenever a hd channel is recorded i
have a
record signal sent to the skyhd box to make sure it is recorded in
hd.
Slightly clumsy, but sky+ functionality is laughable.

Gaz

Absolute bullsh*t

Of course it is. I have both systems, why would i lie? Now with HD, i
would
love to be able to dump tivo, but sky+ makes me blush, how basic and
unsophisticated it is.

Gaz


Same here. My original intention was to replace my TiVo with Sky HD,
but I
just couldn't bring myself to be without the TiVo functionality. I
only
watch/record HD stuff on my Sky HD or if there's a non-repeated clash
that
TiVo can't cope with.

Get yourself the modified irblast software for tivo it will
automatically
send a record code to the hd box for you when a hd is on.....

So far it is reliable.. I have been getting my fill of HD movies...

Cheers, I'll look into that.
--
Sean Black

I agree completely. For ease of use the Tivo interface leaves Sky+ behind
(I have both).

Why Sky+ can't take some pointers (without infringing copyright) from the

you cannot copyright a "look and feel" (something Apple spent a lot of
money on finding out).

tim

Tivo holds multiple patents on functionality, essentialyl crippling all
none tivo based hd recorders. Their patents have been upheld in court,
costing one firm, tens of millions of dollars i beleive.

Gaz

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No mention of increased functionality. I have recently moved to
skyhd.
Sky+ and the epg are terrible. I use my tivo to schedule all the
shows,
and use it as i did before. Whenever a hd channel is recorded i have
a
record signal sent to the skyhd box to make sure it is recorded in
hd.
Slightly clumsy, but sky+ functionality is laughable.

Gaz

Absolute bullsh*t

Of course it is. I have both systems, why would i lie? Now with HD, i
would
love to be able to dump tivo, but sky+ makes me blush, how basic and
unsophisticated it is.

Gaz

Same here. My original intention was to replace my TiVo with Sky HD,
but I
just couldn't bring myself to be without the TiVo functionality. I only
watch/record HD stuff on my Sky HD or if there's a non-repeated clash
that
TiVo can't cope with.

Get yourself the modified irblast software for tivo it will
automatically
send a record code to the hd box for you when a hd is on.....

So far it is reliable.. I have been getting my fill of HD movies...

Cheers, I'll look into that.
--
Sean Black

I agree completely. For ease of use the Tivo interface leaves Sky+ behind
(I have both).

Why Sky+ can't take some pointers (without infringing copyright) from the

you cannot copyright a "look and feel"

Then why do women object when you want to do that?

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"Malcolm H" wrote in message
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No mention of increased functionality. I have recently moved to
skyhd.
Sky+ and the epg are terrible. I use my tivo to schedule all the
shows,
and use it as i did before. Whenever a hd channel is recorded i
have a
record signal sent to the skyhd box to make sure it is recorded in
hd.
Slightly clumsy, but sky+ functionality is laughable.

Gaz

Absolute bullsh*t

Of course it is. I have both systems, why would i lie? Now with HD, i
would
love to be able to dump tivo, but sky+ makes me blush, how basic and
unsophisticated it is.

Gaz


Same here. My original intention was to replace my TiVo with Sky HD,
but I
just couldn't bring myself to be without the TiVo functionality. I
only
watch/record HD stuff on my Sky HD or if there's a non-repeated clash
that
TiVo can't cope with.

Get yourself the modified irblast software for tivo it will
automatically
send a record code to the hd box for you when a hd is on.....

So far it is reliable.. I have been getting my fill of HD movies...

Cheers, I'll look into that.
--
Sean Black

I agree completely. For ease of use the Tivo interface leaves Sky+
behind (I have both).

Why Sky+ can't take some pointers (without infringing copyright) from
the

you cannot copyright a "look and feel" (something Apple spent a lot of
money on finding out).

tim

Tivo holds multiple patents on functionality, essentialyl crippling all
none tivo based hd recorders. Their patents have been upheld in court,
costing one firm, tens of millions of dollars i beleive.

To do with recording on an HD perhaps, but not for the format of their EPG.

And in any case I presume that you just mean in the US, I see no-one getting
sued in Europe.

tim

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No mention of increased functionality. I have recently moved to
skyhd.
Sky+ and the epg are terrible. I use my tivo to schedule all the
shows,
and use it as i did before. Whenever a hd channel is recorded i
have a
record signal sent to the skyhd box to make sure it is recorded in
hd.
Slightly clumsy, but sky+ functionality is laughable.

Gaz

Absolute bullsh*t

Of course it is. I have both systems, why would i lie? Now with HD, i
would
love to be able to dump tivo, but sky+ makes me blush, how basic and
unsophisticated it is.

Gaz

Same here. My original intention was to replace my TiVo with Sky HD,
but I
just couldn't bring myself to be without the TiVo functionality. I
only
watch/record HD stuff on my Sky HD or if there's a non-repeated clash
that
TiVo can't cope with.

Get yourself the modified irblast software for tivo it will
automatically
send a record code to the hd box for you when a hd is on.....

So far it is reliable.. I have been getting my fill of HD movies...

Cheers, I'll look into that.
--
Sean Black

I agree completely. For ease of use the Tivo interface leaves Sky+
behind (I have both).

Why Sky+ can't take some pointers (without infringing copyright) from
the

you cannot copyright a "look and feel" (something Apple spent a lot of
money on finding out).

tim

Tivo holds multiple patents on functionality, essentialyl crippling all
none tivo based hd recorders. Their patents have been upheld in court,
costing one firm, tens of millions of dollars i beleive.

To do with recording on an HD perhaps, but not for the format of their EPG..

Have a look at some of the new Freeview Playback boxes.

Was playing with a cheapy £80 Tesco version the other day. The EPG on
that is done right...

Proper conflict resolution (record the next showing of that episode on
whatever channel it's on, automatically and silently)
Record related programmes (recording Dr.Who should give you an option
to record Dr.Who Confidential for example)
Automatic seamless spanning of films that are split by the news (ie.
it makes one recording, and cuts the news broadcast out of the middle)
See all upcoming recordings of a series, and by extension know what is
going to be recorded when (although no prioritisation control in the
box I saw).
Keeps your series link however long it takes for the series to restart
(a thing I miss terribly from Tivo.. Biggest glaring bug in the Sky+
system).
Hit record on a programme, the recording and all future recordings are
marked on the EPG so you know you've done it.
The EPG is variable size, so you can adjust it somewhat for your
screen.

Closest to Tivo I've seen so far (it looks like the BBC used the Tivo
model as their EPG data which gives them this flexibility). All we're
missing is suggestions and wishlists we're sorted as far as I can
tell.

Sky are of course in trouble now. Up until now people (Except ex/
current Tivo owners) have been thinking that Sky+ was the dogs 'nads
simply because they'd never seen anything better.. they expect series
links to randomly delete themselves, they accept that if you try to
record two things then watch another you'll have to delete a series
link, they accept that things will just randomly not record and every
few months all your series links will be replaced by 'power cut'.
They accept that you have to pay £10 a month for the 'privilege' of
all these things.

Now everyone can go down to the supermarket and get a box with decent
PVR functionality, for a one off payment. And that's the first
generation Playback hardware.. in 12 months time Sky+ is going to look
like a sick joke. *that* is why Sky are 'upgrading' the EPG after
about 15 years of sitting on their arses.

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:16:52 +0000, Malcolm H wrote:

No mention of increased functionality. I have recently moved to skyhd.
Sky+ and the epg are terrible. I use my tivo to schedule all the shows,
and use it as i did before. Whenever a hd channel is recorded i have a
record signal sent to the skyhd box to make sure it is recorded in hd.
Slightly clumsy, but sky+ functionality is laughable.

Gaz

Absolute bullsh*t

Got Sky+ before Christmas, just sold my Tivo. The Sky+ EPG *is* absolute
****e. How they manage to make so little information take up so much
space, I have no idea.

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On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:16:52 +0000, Malcolm H wrote:

No mention of increased functionality. I have recently moved to skyhd.
Sky+ and the epg are terrible. I use my tivo to schedule all the shows,
and use it as i did before. Whenever a hd channel is recorded i have a
record signal sent to the skyhd box to make sure it is recorded in hd.
Slightly clumsy, but sky+ functionality is laughable.

Gaz

Absolute bullsh*t

Got Sky+ before Christmas, just sold my Tivo. The Sky+ EPG *is* absolute
****e. How they manage to make so little information take up so much
space, I have no idea.



from memory, when i owned a tivo, far too many channels didnt have ANY
program info at all for their schedule making it impossible to record
something without checking elsewhere.
also many channels had innacurate schedules - i could never trust what my
tivo said eurosport was showing.


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