ANALOG RECEPTION IS SUPERIOR to digital non-reception

On Jan 13, 10:17 am, SFTV_troy wrote:
Old tale; new setting. I purchased a Hisense Tuner off ebay, with the
intent of giving it to my parents so they could receive DTV. Well
that was a horrible mistake.

Long story short, here were the results using a directional, indoors
antenna aimed towards Philadelphia (my parents say that gives the best
results for them):

ANALOG
8
10 (poor but watchable)
11
12
13
15
17
21
27
29
33
35 (poor but watchable)
39 (poor but watchable)
43
45 (poor but watchable)
48 (poor but watchable)
49
51
57
61 (poor but watchable)
65
69 (poor but watchable)

DIGITAL TUNER:
6 (off and on)
8

I then spun the antenna 180 degrees (to my parents saying "stop
messing with the antenna!") and I aimed it towards the main York-
Harrisburg tower in hopes of getting better results. I was wrong:

8
43
49

.
.
.

Thanks a lot FCC. I have my mom saying she's going to throw away the
television. And my dad is demanding the phone number of the State
Congressman so he can yell at him.

The FCC didn't improve television reception.

They made it worse.

Well, digital communication will make it easier to shut down all
communication once the "need" arises.

On Jan 13, 12:14 pm, RichA wrote:

Well, digital communication will make it easier to shut down all
communication once the "need" arises.



How so?

"SFTV_troy" wrote in message
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On Jan 13, 12:14 pm, RichA wrote:

Well, digital communication will make it easier to shut down all
communication once the "need" arises.



How so?

I suppose he believes that analog transmitters work better when they are
shut off than digital transmitters which have been shut off? Get out your
foil hats....the end is near.

On Jan 13, 1:03 pm, "Charles Tomaras" wrote:
"SFTV_troy" wrote in message

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On Jan 13, 12:14 pm, RichA wrote:

Well, digital communication will make it easier to shut down all
communication once the "need" arises.

How so?

I suppose he believes that analog transmitters work better when they are
shut off than digital transmitters which have been shut off? Get out your
foil hats....the end is near.

How do you shut down ham radio?

On Jan 13, 1:38 pm, RichA wrote:
"SFTV_troy" wrote in message
On Jan 13, 12:14 pm, RichA wrote:

Well, digital communication will make it easier to shut down all
communication once the "need" arises.

How so?

How do you shut down ham radio?


I don't know. How do you shut-down *digital* ham radio? I don't
think it would be any easier to block digital transmitters or
receivers than analog.

RichA wrote:
On Jan 13, 1:03 pm, "Charles Tomaras" wrote:
"SFTV_troy" wrote in message

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On Jan 13, 12:14 pm, RichA wrote:
Well, digital communication will make it easier to shut down all
communication once the "need" arises.
How so?
I suppose he believes that analog transmitters work better when they are
shut off than digital transmitters which have been shut off? Get out your
foil hats....the end is near.

How do you shut down ham radio?


By becoming vegetarian?

On Jan 13, 12:38 pm, RichA wrote:
On Jan 13, 1:03 pm, "Charles Tomaras" wrote:

"SFTV_troy" wrote in message

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On Jan 13, 12:14 pm, RichA wrote:

Well, digital communication will make it easier to shut down all
communication once the "need" arises.

How so?

I suppose he believes that analog transmitters work better when they are
shut off than digital transmitters which have been shut off? Get out your
foil hats....the end is near.

How do you shut down ham radio?


Is this a quiz?

Just wondering,
Tom

"RichA" wrote in message
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On Jan 13, 1:03 pm, "Charles Tomaras" wrote:
"SFTV_troy" wrote in message


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On Jan 13, 12:14 pm, RichA wrote:

Well, digital communication will make it easier to shut down all
communication once the "need" arises.

How so?

I suppose he believes that analog transmitters work better when they are
shut off than digital transmitters which have been shut off? Get out
your
foil hats....the end is near.

How do you shut down ham radio?

It's already being planned by the US government, its called BPL (Broadband
over power lines). BPL will use the HF spectrum to provide internet services
using the electric power lines. Obviously, the power lines are unshielded
and the BPL transmissions will emit significant interference in the HF
frequency range. Anyone living nearby a power line will be subject to this
interference. The HF spectrum may be rendered useless for amateur radio
operators and short wave listeners. The ARRL is currently embroiled in a
battle with the FCC over the BPL issue.
Even with the worldwide internet, the HF spectrum provides unique
advantages. Afterall, short wave receivers do not accept tracking cookies,
spyware or virus.

"numeric" wrote in message
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"RichA" wrote in message
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On Jan 13, 1:03 pm, "Charles Tomaras" wrote:
"SFTV_troy" wrote in message


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On Jan 13, 12:14 pm, RichA wrote:

Well, digital communication will make it easier to shut down all
communication once the "need" arises.

How so?

I suppose he believes that analog transmitters work better when they
are
shut off than digital transmitters which have been shut off? Get out
your
foil hats....the end is near.

How do you shut down ham radio?

It's already being planned by the US government, its called BPL (Broadband
over power lines). BPL will use the HF spectrum to provide internet
services
using the electric power lines. Obviously, the power lines are unshielded
and the BPL transmissions will emit significant interference in the HF
frequency range. Anyone living nearby a power line will be subject to this
interference. The HF spectrum may be rendered useless for amateur radio
operators and short wave listeners. The ARRL is currently embroiled in a
battle with the FCC over the BPL issue.
Even with the worldwide internet, the HF spectrum provides unique
advantages. Afterall, short wave receivers do not accept tracking cookies,
spyware or virus.

And street lights killed amateur astronomy as well. If what you say is true
and comes to pass you are either gonna have to move to the county, get a yet
higher mast, or haul your Ham radio out to the sticks like the amateur
astronomers do. Honestly, while I find Ham radio mildly interesting, I
personally feel that if everyone had broadband access it would be far more
beneficial to society. And if the big one does go off, you can be sure that
broadband internet interference wont' be there and you and your ham buddies
with portable generators will still be able to share your reports of death
and mayhem from within your bunkers.

"Charles Tomaras" wrote in message
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"numeric" wrote in message
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How do you shut down ham radio?



It's already being planned by the US government, its called BPL
(Broadband
over power lines). BPL will use the HF spectrum to provide internet
services
using the electric power lines. Obviously, the power lines are
unshielded
and the BPL transmissions will emit significant interference in the HF
frequency range. Anyone living nearby a power line will be subject to
this
interference. The HF spectrum may be rendered useless for amateur radio
operators and short wave listeners. The ARRL is currently embroiled in a
battle with the FCC over the BPL issue.
Even with the worldwide internet, the HF spectrum provides unique
advantages. Afterall, short wave receivers do not accept tracking
cookies,
spyware or virus.

And street lights killed amateur astronomy as well. If what you say is
true
and comes to pass you are either gonna have to move to the county, get a
yet
higher mast, or haul your Ham radio out to the sticks like the amateur
astronomers do. Honestly, while I find Ham radio mildly interesting, I
personally feel that if everyone had broadband access it would be far more
beneficial to society. And if the big one does go off, you can be sure
that
broadband internet interference wont' be there and you and your ham
buddies
with portable generators will still be able to share your reports of death
and mayhem from within your bunkers.


Getting a higher mast will not work, you need to be several hundred feet
from a power line to avoid the worst of BPL interference.

Internet access is not suffering from access; there is cable access, DSL
access, fiber access, satellite access and WIFI access. Some towns even
provide free Internet WIFI thought the city. Also BPL is not free, there is
a cost which may even exceed cable and DSL costs. So where is the benefit to
society?

In addition, Amateur radio is a licensed service provided by the FCC and
entitled to protection against un-licensed interferers. BPL is not licensed
and must according to the FCC rules and regulations remedy the interference
even if they have to shut down. The FCC so far has failed to enforce its own
rules and regulations against a BPL interferer.

Links:

http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/

See the video at http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/HTML/plc/aud-vid.html