Plans for Sky's unused spectrum at 28.2 East?

In article ,
says...
The Nat West Bankers were extridited to Texas for fraud against a London
Bank in London by britsh bankers.


It is somewhat more complex than that, in that the fraud was also
committed against the shareholders of Enron, domiciled in the US.

Natwest profited from the deal, albeit not so much as the bankers
individually, the losers were the Enron shareholders.

If a fraud is committed across country lines, then it is not
unreasonable, if one country decides not to prosecute, for the other
country to do so, and the most likely to push for a prosecution will be
the country in which the losers reside.

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 12:12:06 -0000, "buddenbrooks"
wrote:

I would assume that as both the EU and UK have signed up that Gibralter
would be in the same position. Certainly Spain assists.

The 'EU' does not make laws;
The UK Government makes them for the UK
The Spanish Government for Spain
and the Gibraltar Government for Gibraltar.

I suspect that the response to an enquiry for
extradition to the US would be unhelpful given
its attutude to Internet gaming and flouting
WTO agreements.

In fairness to our neigbour, the present Government
is not up the yankee arse like the PP and I would
expect extraditing a spanish national from Spain to
be an uphill task.
--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

"Richardr" wrote in message
. ..
In article ,
says...
The Nat West Bankers were extridited to Texas for fraud against a
London
Bank in London by britsh bankers.


It is somewhat more complex than that, in that the fraud was also
committed against the shareholders of Enron, domiciled in the US.

Natwest profited from the deal, albeit not so much as the bankers
individually, the losers were the Enron shareholders.

If a fraud is committed across country lines, then it is not
unreasonable, if one country decides not to prosecute, for the other
country to do so, and the most likely to push for a prosecution will be
the country in which the losers reside.

As I understand it the fraud involved trading in Enron Shares, but Nat West
were the only loosers.

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 03:58:56 +0000, JF
wrote:

the US State
Department's rigorous upholding of international law has a direct
bearing on us.

There is no such thing as 'international law' the US
simply seeks to apply its domestic laws to others who
have not given its government a mandate to do so.

Apart from that, I'd agree with most of your views and
+1 channels are simply a method of filling space of
little merit.

I shall be renewing my subscription to BBC Prime shortly,
and excellent channel but unpopular with the football
crazed masses.

--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:42:14 +0000 (GMT), charles
wrote:

In article ,
buddenbrooks wrote:

"Jim Watt" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 11:26:10 +0000, JF

BUT we do not live in America, and their toytown laws simply do
not apply to the likes of you and me;


While the US has the extridition treaty with the UK it has, it does.

only when the alleged offence has been committed in the USA.

I don't think so - AIUI, if an email connected with the crime has
passed through the US then it is considered to fall under US
jurisdiction.

--
Cheers

Peter

On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 13:17:21 +0000, Walt Davidson
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 12:33:03 +0100, Nigel Barker wrote:

It's still inconsistent between different media. Why can I take a book published in the UK & read it
in the Netherlands but not take a Sky card to the Netherlands to watch UK TV?

Because when you buy a book or CD you are buying one item of
merchandise. When you buy a Sky card, you are buying a service.

In the same way, if you live in the Netherlands you can't get BT to
provide your telephone service or British Gas to provide your central
heating.

Live in the UK however and you can get the Germans or French to
provide your electricity/gas, the Spanish to provide your telephony,
and until about a year ago the Germans provided water and sewage
services for London.


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Who are the Spanish providing telephony? Incidentally BT are proving phones
here in Spain now.


"Mike" wrote in message
...

On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 13:17:21 +0000, Walt Davidson
wrote:

On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 12:33:03 +0100, Nigel Barker wrote:

It's still inconsistent between different media. Why can I take a book
published in the UK & read it
in the Netherlands but not take a Sky card to the Netherlands to watch UK
TV?

Because when you buy a book or CD you are buying one item of
merchandise. When you buy a Sky card, you are buying a service.

In the same way, if you live in the Netherlands you can't get BT to
provide your telephone service or British Gas to provide your central
heating.

Live in the UK however and you can get the Germans or French to
provide your electricity/gas, the Spanish to provide your telephony,
and until about a year ago the Germans provided water and sewage
services for London.


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"amp is" wrote in message
...
Who are the Spanish providing telephony? Incidentally BT are proving
phones here in Spain now.

Telefonica own O2 (mobile) and provide me with my internet connection
over a BT line.

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:51:24 GMT, David Taylor
wrote:


snip

Kindly trim your headers as all this nonsense may be
appropriate for some newsgroups but has bugger all
to do with satellite televison.
--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

Is there any biblical, koranical or other religious pronouncement that has
relevance to satellite broadcasting?

brianf