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"replicator" wrote in message ... On dec. 30, 18:14, "John Russell" wrote: "replicator" wrote in message ... No, we're perfectly normal thanks, it's the rest of Europe that are odd No, the reason is that the US stock market and the London stock market. You want to be closer to USA not to Europe that is why you want to have 1 hour earlier. UK is on the same longitude as france so there is no reason to have 1 hour earlier. One hour nearer to US Eastern standard time..that really does make a difference. Your comment is a nonsense when you consider that every time zone has to have a line where near places either side are 1 hour a part, and in the case of the middle of the pacific a whole day! Kindly check your PC Time Zone again. The UK is not the only EU country which isn't the same as France! What stupid reasons have you got for Ireland? Ireland is just adjusting to the UK. But at least they have euro. I heard from UK officials on CNn TV some years ago that the main reason is the trade and financial contacts with USA. You are right, France is not central europe, yet they are using the CET. What you should ask, if France is at same longitude as the UK why France is using CET and you GMT ...? think deeper on this. Time zones exist, that's the end of the matter. Even the USA and Russia have time zones, and they are single countries. The EU can't have a single time zone just to keep you happy. What happens if Turkey join? The EU will then have a border with the Middle East. You expect Turkey and Ireland to have the same time? |
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On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 10:45:29 -0800 (PST), replicator
wrote: You are right, France is not central europe, yet they are using the CET. What you should ask, if France is at same longitude as the UK why France is using CET and you GMT ...? You would have to ask the French why they chose to be different. For years, before the quicker travel times brought trains messed everything up, noon was always defined as when the sun was highest in the sky, wheverer you happened to be. UTC is near enough Greenwich Mean Time, which, when time zones were invented, was calculated from the average time when the sun was at its highest over the Prime Meridian. Charlie -- Email killed by spammers - please ask for the real one. |
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On dec. 31, 01:01, Charlie Pearce -SPOO-
PLEASE.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 10:45:29 -0800 (PST), replicator wrote: You are right, France is not central europe, yet they are using the CET. What you should ask, if France is at same longitude as the UK why France is using CET and you GMT ...? You would have to ask the French why they chose to be different. For years, before the quicker travel times brought trains messed everything up, noon was always defined as when the sun was highest in the sky, wheverer you happened to be. UTC is near enough Greenwich Mean Time, which, when time zones were invented, was calculated from the average time when the sun was at its highest over the Prime Meridian. Charlie -- Email killed by spammers - please ask for the real one. If I were a British, I would have same reasoning... |
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If I were a British, I would have same reasoning... OK. if you where French and had defined 0 Longitude through the centre of Paris, would you then ignore that and chose to have the same time as Berlin? No, the French would be going on about their National Maritime History and lauding the fact. Paris is to the east of London, and hence in a different time zone. Like all governments those in Power only care about the opinion of the ruling elite living in the capital. Why should those living in Paris care if two thirds of France have a shifted day to accommodate them? |
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On 2007 dec. 31, 14:05, "John Russell"
wrote: If I were a British, I would have same reasoning... OK. if you where French and had defined 0 Longitude through the centre of Paris, would you then ignore that and chose to have the same time as Berlin? No, the French would be going on about their National Maritime History and lauding the fact. Paris is to the east of London, and hence in a different time zone. Like all governments those in Power only care about the opinion of the ruling elite living in the capital. Why should those living in Paris care if two thirds of France have a shifted day to accommodate them? I was not talking about Paris but abour France. Paris is east of London. yes. What about Bretagne? how many km Paris is east of London? You can't be serious. The reason as I mentioned and was exressed on CNN the new york stock exchange and London stock excnage to have the most common opening hours. That is the reason. You are US, not EU. |
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 00:01:38 +0000, Charlie Pearce
wrote: On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 10:45:29 -0800 (PST), replicator wrote: You are right, France is not central europe, yet they are using the CET. What you should ask, if France is at same longitude as the UK why France is using CET and you GMT ...? You would have to ask the French why they chose to be different. For years, before the quicker travel times brought trains messed everything up That should of course have read "before the quicker travel times trains brought..." Charlie -- Email killed by spammers - please ask for the real one. |
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On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 04:52:20 -0800 (PST), replicator
wrote: On 2007 dec. 31, 14:05, "John Russell" wrote: If I were a British, I would have same reasoning... OK. if you where French and had defined 0 Longitude through the centre of Paris, would you then ignore that and chose to have the same time as Berlin? No, the French would be going on about their National Maritime History and lauding the fact. Paris is to the east of London, and hence in a different time zone. Like all governments those in Power only care about the opinion of the ruling elite living in the capital. Why should those living in Paris care if two thirds of France have a shifted day to accommodate them? I was not talking about Paris but abour France. Paris is east of London. yes. What about Bretagne? how many km Paris is east of London? You can't be serious. "How many km" is irrelevant - Paris is approx. 2 deg 20 min east of London, so noon in Paris should happen at roughly 11:50:40 UTC (on average). Before time zones were created, that's when noon would have been set as by local observations, so why did the French decide to take 50 minutes off rather than adding 10 minutes? Charlie -- Email killed by spammers - please ask for the real one. |
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replicator wrote:
W2, for most of mainland europe the Nation State is seen as the cause of their problems, hence the desire by many to associate themselves in a wider european context, but over here it is exactly the opposite, it was the strength of our Nation State which held us together and helped us defeat what is possibly the greatest evil to threaten mankind in recent times. Gaz Are u a christian fanatic? It's not better than a muslim one .... I dont see any connection to religion in what i wrote. Gaz |
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