Silly Idea?

Quick question, is the content of an encrypted MPG stream any different
from the content of a clear stream from a technical point of view? I.E.
could you use a cheap digital PVR to record an encrypted stream without
it complaining and then be able to stream it back via whatever CAM is
required to allow access/viewing? I've got a daft idea rolling around in
the back of my mind s'all...
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Clint Sharp

Clint Sharp wrote:
Quick question, is the content of an encrypted MPG stream any different
from the content of a clear stream from a technical point of view? I.E.
could you use a cheap digital PVR to record an encrypted stream without
it complaining and then be able to stream it back via whatever CAM is
required to allow access/viewing? I've got a daft idea rolling around in
the back of my mind s'all...

The last post on this page seems to confirm at least the toppy does what
you have written.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=349032


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Adrian C

"Clint Sharp" wrote in message
...
Quick question, is the content of an encrypted MPG stream any different
from the content of a clear stream from a technical point of view? I.E.
could you use a cheap digital PVR to record an encrypted stream without it
complaining and then be able to stream it back via whatever CAM is
required to allow access/viewing? I've got a daft idea rolling around in
the back of my mind s'all...
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Clint Sharp

Er isn't this what $ky do? (so you need to have the card to view recorded
content).

In message , R. Mark Clayton
writes

Er isn't this what $ky do? (so you need to have the card to view recorded
content).


Ahh, do they? If that's the case for Sky+ then that sounds worth
investigating further. Has anyone tried swapping hard drives from one +
box to another? Would be interesting to see where they tap the stream. I
may have to find my screwdrivers this weekend.
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Clint Sharp

"Clint Sharp" wrote in message
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In message , R. Mark Clayton
writes

Er isn't this what $ky do? (so you need to have the card to view recorded
content).


Ahh, do they? If that's the case for Sky+ then that sounds worth
investigating further. Has anyone tried swapping hard drives from one +
box to another? Would be interesting to see where they tap the stream. I
may have to find my screwdrivers this weekend.
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Clint Sharp

Unless $ky are dafter than I think the solution will be integrated and the
unencrypted stream will only exist within a single chip, so you would need
so very expensive gear to get it out.

On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 13:55:48 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton"
wrote:


"Clint Sharp" wrote in message
...
In message , R. Mark Clayton
writes

Er isn't this what $ky do? (so you need to have the card to view recorded
content).


Ahh, do they? If that's the case for Sky+ then that sounds worth
investigating further. Has anyone tried swapping hard drives from one +
box to another? Would be interesting to see where they tap the stream. I
may have to find my screwdrivers this weekend.
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Clint Sharp

Unless $ky are dafter than I think the solution will be integrated and the
unencrypted stream will only exist within a single chip, so you would need
so very expensive gear to get it out.

Pliers?

Marky P.

In message , R. Mark Clayton
writes
Unless $ky are dafter than I think the solution will be integrated and the
unencrypted stream will only exist within a single chip, so you would need
so very expensive gear to get it out.
Ahh, I agree totally, I'd suspect they are a *lot* smarter than me. But
I'm not after tapping a decrypted stream, I'm thinking of replaying an
encrypted stream past a CAM with a valid card and not actually for Sky
(initially) anyway. I suspect that the tuner in the box will spit out an
MPEG stream which I may be able to feed into a 'standard' DTTV I've got
some embedded LINUX boxes I can use for this anyway...

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Clint Sharp

On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 13:55:48 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton"
wrote:

Unless $ky are dafter than I think the solution will be integrated and the
unencrypted stream will only exist within a single chip, so you would need
so very expensive gear to get it out.

Plain SKY boxes (not Sky+ or SKD HD) have a PCMCIA shaped
connector underneath that is concealed by two screws. This
connector provides the decrypted MPEG stream. If you order
a service manual from PACE this contains a schematic that
shows the pinouts of this connector.

Another method is to use a Dragon CAM to decrypt the stream.

Nick.

In message , Nick Austin
writes
On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 13:55:48 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton"
wrote:
Plain SKY boxes (not Sky+ or SKD HD) have a PCMCIA shaped
connector underneath that is concealed by two screws. This
connector provides the decrypted MPEG stream. If you order
a service manual from PACE this contains a schematic that
shows the pinouts of this connector.
Ahh, very interesting, thanks.


Nick.


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Clint Sharp