Plans for Sky's unused spectrum at 28.2 East?

On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 10:36:17 +0100, Nigel Barker wrote:

Not to mention in the UK getting your electricity from Electricite de France or your water from
Lyonnaise des Eaux.

Now you come to mention it thats where our water
comes from. Just hope they don't oui in it.
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Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 11:26:10 +0000, JF
wrote:

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There was a move by the EU to open a dialogue some years ago
but the US copyright owners didn't even reply to letters. They have the
full support of the US state department, too, who maintain that the
issue is not negotiable.

Probably illiterate.

BUT we do not live in America, and their toytown laws simply do
not apply to the likes of you and me;

Personally I don't want to watch foreign television, I want
to watch BRITISH television not dross with gun toting imbeciles
and tarts with plastic tits.

I suggest you watch the more cultural and informative programmes
from Presstv and not the spew of the Great Satan.

Hot Bird 8 (13E) 12437 27500 3/4 H

More details and frequencies on their website.

PS: Merry Christmas
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Jim Watt
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On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 11:26:10 +0000, JF

BUT we do not live in America, and their toytown laws simply do
not apply to the likes of you and me;


While the US has the extridition treaty with the UK it has, it does.

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buddenbrooks wrote:

"Jim Watt" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 11:26:10 +0000, JF

BUT we do not live in America, and their toytown laws simply do
not apply to the likes of you and me;


While the US has the extridition treaty with the UK it has, it does.

only when the alleged offence has been committed in the USA.

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"charles" wrote in message
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buddenbrooks wrote:

"Jim Watt" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 11:26:10 +0000, JF

BUT we do not live in America, and their toytown laws simply do
not apply to the likes of you and me;


While the US has the extridition treaty with the UK it has, it does.

only when the alleged offence has been committed in the USA.


The Nat West Bankers were extridited to Texas for fraud against a London
Bank in London by britsh bankers.

BAE are under investigation for bribing a Saudis over Saudi contracts with
BAE UK.

Federal Law applies if there is ANY connection at all with the USA, in
the first case it was because the fraud involded selling of US listed stock,
in the second BAE own a subsidery in the US, although that subsidery had no
connection with BAEs dealings with Saudi Arabia.

There is no geographical limits to Federal law and if a US court issues a
warrent britain has agreed to extridite without examining the basis of the
warrent.

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 19:54:12 -0000, "buddenbrooks"
wrote:


"Jim Watt" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 11:26:10 +0000, JF

BUT we do not live in America, and their toytown laws simply do
not apply to the likes of you and me;


While the US has the extridition treaty with the UK it has, it does.

Just as well I don't live there then.

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Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 21:48:25 -0000, "buddenbrooks"
wrote:

There is no geographical limits to Federal law and if a US court issues a
warrent britain has agreed to extridite without examining the basis of the
warrent.

were that true it would be a national disgrace, however
other jurisdictions are more robust.

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Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:02:45 +0000, Walt Davidson
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 11:57:12 +0100, Jim Watt
wrote:

I suggest you watch the more cultural and informative programmes
from Presstv and not the spew of the Great Satan.

Hot Bird 8 (13E) 12437 27500 3/4 H

This is an Iranian propaganda station.

Its quite a good channel and makes a change from Sky
News.


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Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

"Jim Watt" wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 21:48:25 -0000, "buddenbrooks"
wrote:

There is no geographical limits to Federal law and if a US court issues a
warrent britain has agreed to extridite without examining the basis of
the
warrent.

were that true it would be a national disgrace, however
other jurisdictions are more robust.


It was one of the last things Blair agreed to, the intention was that it
was aganst terrorism but the agreement as signed
allows extradition for any federal warrent.In fact it is more difficult for
a New York court to extridite a criminal from California than the UK. The UK
now only require the warrent issued in the US, California requires a counter
signature by a Californian Judge.
And no, other jurisdictions are not more robust. Any country that has US
forces based there have taken non-US citizens
back to the states against a Federal warrent. Italy has been particularly
helpful.

I am surprised that this has escaped you, the Bankers extridited to Texas
has had wide coverage in the UK.
In this particular case there seems little doubt that the Bankers had
commited an offence but the authorities decided not to prosecute in the UK
where the offense happened.

The UK does have laws which cover offenses not involving UK citizens and not
on UK territory. War criminals may be prosecuted for offenses however they
occured.

You can expect this to continune as governments target international crime
and indiviual criminals who commit cross-border crime
to avoid prosecution. The EU is rapidly introducing EU extridition warrents,
so a British national can be extridited to a EU or a USA court for offenses
not crimes in the UK. Which will be interesting as most other countries in
Europe have more restrictive laws on political comment.

You may have picked up that when Gary Glitter was prosecuted in Thialand for
child abuse that there was call in the UK that he should be prosecuted in
the UK should he return.

"Jim Watt" wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 19:54:12 -0000, "buddenbrooks"

Just as well I don't live there then.


I doubt that you do anything that would cause them to be interested. All
the cases that do not relate to an incident within the USA are where US
financial interests are involved.

I would assume that as both the EU and UK have signed up that Gibralter
would be in the same position. Certainly Spain assists.