Plans for Sky's unused spectrum at 28.2 East?

"Jomtien" wrote in message
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If this occurs it will surely be on the individual initiative of the
installer, and probably for his personal gain.

I can't see Sky bothering to do this.

It may also be a 'service' to the customer who having no further use for
it is saved the bother of disposing of it.
In many areas this will require a special visit to the re-cycling centre as
it may be against local refuse collection
regulations to place it in the bin.

Better reused than left to gather dust.

In message , Matti Lamprhey
writes
"JF" wrote...
tony sayer writes

Its about time there was a free to air service to the UK that could
carry TV without the dictates of the Sky box

How wicked of the BSkyB to be successful!

Even Hitler was successful for a while, Jimbo.

A hopelessly flawed analogy which I can't be bothered to
address. JF

In message ews.net,
Jerry writes

"JF" wrote in message
...
snip


The Berne will be around long after everyone on this planet is
dust. We
might as well get used to.


It might well be around, that doesn't mean that it will never need
modifying.

It undergoes continuous revision. I think it's GATT that can't be
touched. A veto given by Douglas Hurd at the last GATT round.

--
James Follett. Novelist

In message , Roderick
Stewart writes

We might have to change our understanding of the meaning of
"copyright", since technology has effectively changed the meaning of
"copy".

Nice bell. Shame about the pussy cat.

In message ews.net,
Jerry writes

"JF" wrote in message
...
In message , Bob Lucas
writes

Consequently, there is nothing to prevent a viewer in the UK from
using a different type of digital receiver (i.e. non-Sky
equipment)
to view any channel that is genuinely Free to Air (i.e. not
encrypted).

BSkyB's soft encryption meets the requirments of copyright owners
when
granting territorial rights.


No, it meets BSkyB's requirements, both the BBC and ITV have got
around the problems. BSkyB could have used one of the other
encryption methods and meet the requirements of copyright owners.

The BBC tried an alternative system by developing BBC Select. Line
dicing in chunks. It proved a hideously expensive failure. NDC's system
works and is cheap.
--
James Follett The only way to survive these newsgroups is to not care about the
rhetoric and to respond to emotional abuse with rationality. It's not necessary
to turn the other cheek, just to use a scalpel after someone else has attacked
you with a paleolithic cudgel. Franke: EFL teacher & medical editor

On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:14:53 +0000, JF
wrote:

The Berne Convention is a global protocol that works. It has provided
all its signatory countries with a workable and pragmatic framework of
international law.

And at one time a man with a red flag walked in front of
motor cars, everyone in the UK paid radio licences to the
post office who ran the telephone service.

Bookmakers were illegal, and Radio Caroline interferred
with essential services, or so we were told.
--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:10:22 GMT, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , Stephen [email protected]
nkmail.sptv.demon.co.uk writes
Band C (10950 to 11200 MHz) is empty at Sky's 28.2 orbital position

No it isn't. There is a transponder using 10964. There are also
transponders within that range on Eurobird 2 at 25.5deg which is close
enough to give the opportunity for mutual interference as occurred
previously with another adjacent satellite even further away
(23.5deg?).
snip

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 03:00:13 +0000, JF
wrote:

In message , Jim Watt
writes
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:14:53 +0000, JF
wrote:

The Berne Convention is a global protocol that works. It has provided
all its signatory countries with a workable and pragmatic framework of
international law.

And at one time a man with a red flag walked in front of
motor cars, everyone in the UK paid radio licences to the
post office who ran the telephone service.

The false analogies are so thick and fast that I can't be bothered to
address them. Try comparing like for like. The Berne Convention works.
So do conventions that say which side of the road we should drive on.

Which convention is that?

However, the Berne convention was conceived before Satellite
television existed, and current rights licencing does not
address the needs of the public.

Its perverse that I cannot subscribe to whatever services
are offered by broadcasters because of the geographical area
I live.

--
Jim Watt
http://www.gibnet.com

On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:10:22 GMT, "David"
wrote:


"Mark Carver" wrote in message
roups.com...
..

But Sky have made 28.2 their 'de facto' orbital position. Apart from a
few Czech channels on Eurobird, everything else is UK 'Sky Platform'.


Not sure about that.
The other day whilst channel and satellite hopping I noticed Sky News on at
least one other satellite and lots of other Sky stations to another Europeon
country.

The satellite positions IMU are chiefly the result of
internationally-agreed allocations some years ago which sorted them by
target country/ies not by service provider.

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:51:05 +0100, Jim Watt wrote:

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 03:00:13 +0000, JF
wrote:

In message , Jim Watt
writes
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:14:53 +0000, JF
wrote:

The Berne Convention is a global protocol that works. It has provided
all its signatory countries with a workable and pragmatic framework of
international law.

And at one time a man with a red flag walked in front of
motor cars, everyone in the UK paid radio licences to the
post office who ran the telephone service.

The false analogies are so thick and fast that I can't be bothered to
address them. Try comparing like for like. The Berne Convention works.
So do conventions that say which side of the road we should drive on.

Which convention is that?

However, the Berne convention was conceived before Satellite
television existed, and current rights licencing does not
address the needs of the public.

Its perverse that I cannot subscribe to whatever services
are offered by broadcasters because of the geographical area
I live.

Particularly when there is no geographical limitation on other media covered by international
copyright. I am perfectly at liberty to purchase a book or DVD from another country but evidently
not a TV subscription.
--

Cheers

Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur