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Old December 16th 07, 08:08 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Steven[_4_]
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Hi all

I have got a panasonic tv with bult in freeview which works brilliantly with
an outdoor aerial.

However when I connect it to the indoor aerial in the conservatory only BBC1
ans BBC2 channels work.
The other channels say no dvb signal.

Why is this? Are the BBC signals stronger than those of ITC etc?

Also what is the best indoor aerial to use for freeview reception?

Thanks


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Old December 16th 07, 08:34 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
the dog from that film you saw[_2_]
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"Steven" wrote in message
...
Hi all

I have got a panasonic tv with bult in freeview which works brilliantly
with an outdoor aerial.

However when I connect it to the indoor aerial in the conservatory only
BBC1 ans BBC2 channels work.
The other channels say no dvb signal.

Why is this? Are the BBC signals stronger than those of ITC etc?

Also what is the best indoor aerial to use for freeview reception?




you said it - it's simply that not enough signal is making it through - easy
way to tell is to check out some analogue tv - chances are it will look
rather fuzzy with the indoor aerial.
i find indoor aierials are much of a muchness - unless you have a strong
local signal you may not have a lot of luck.



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Old December 16th 07, 09:11 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Marky P
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On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 19:34:00 -0000, "the dog from that film you saw"
wrote:


"Steven" wrote in message
...
Hi all

I have got a panasonic tv with bult in freeview which works brilliantly
with an outdoor aerial.

However when I connect it to the indoor aerial in the conservatory only
BBC1 ans BBC2 channels work.
The other channels say no dvb signal.

Why is this? Are the BBC signals stronger than those of ITC etc?

Also what is the best indoor aerial to use for freeview reception?




you said it - it's simply that not enough signal is making it through - easy
way to tell is to check out some analogue tv - chances are it will look
rather fuzzy with the indoor aerial.
i find indoor aierials are much of a muchness - unless you have a strong
local signal you may not have a lot of luck.


What he says is about right. Some mux's are stronger than others on
some transmitters, also depends on frequency used ans whether the
boadcaster uses 16QAM or 64QAM, one being more robust than the other.
The best indoor aerial i've come across is the Antiference Silver
Sensor. If that don't work, then you have no chance.

Marky P.

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Old December 16th 07, 11:03 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Alan
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In message , Steven
wrote
Hi all

I have got a panasonic tv with bult in freeview which works brilliantly with
an outdoor aerial.

However when I connect it to the indoor aerial in the conservatory only BBC1
ans BBC2 channels work.
The other channels say no dvb signal.

Why is this? Are the BBC signals stronger than those of ITC etc?


The BBC transmits in a more robust way so this may be a contributing
factor. Digital TV is broadcast on 6 MUXs at 6 different frequencies.
Each of these frequencies will be effected differently by walls, water
pipes, electrical cables and even your presence within the room.


Also what is the best indoor aerial to use for freeview reception?


Unless you live within spitting distance of the transmitter no indoor
aerial is suitable for reliable Freeview reception but see
http://www.ricability-digitaltv.org....indoor-aerials
/recommendations/best-indoor-aerials.htm.

Tiny URL (via an intermediate sponsor link)
http://tiny.cc/OuSHB



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Old December 17th 07, 12:21 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Matti Lamprhey
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"Alan" wrote...
Steven wrote

[...] Are the BBC signals stronger than those of ITC etc?


The BBC transmits in a more robust way so this may be a contributing
factor. Digital TV is broadcast on 6 MUXs at 6 different frequencies.
Each of these frequencies will be effected differently by walls, water
pipes, electrical cables and even your presence within the room.


Am I right in thinking that the BBC's transmissions post DSO will be
changed to the less robust way?

Matti



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Old December 17th 07, 10:59 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mark Carver
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On Dec 16, 11:21 pm, "Matti Lamprhey" [email protected]
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Am I right in thinking that the BBC's transmissions post DSO will be
changed to the less robust way?


Yes, all six muxes will adopt 64QAM
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Old December 17th 07, 02:01 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Paul D.Smith
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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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On Dec 16, 11:21 pm, "Matti Lamprhey" [email protected]
reversed.com wrote:

Am I right in thinking that the BBC's transmissions post DSO will be
changed to the less robust way?


Yes, all six muxes will adopt 64QAM


But will the transmission power be increased as compensation?

Paul DS.


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Old December 17th 07, 09:39 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mark Carver
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Paul D.Smith wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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On Dec 16, 11:21 pm, "Matti Lamprhey" [email protected]
reversed.com wrote:

Am I right in thinking that the BBC's transmissions post DSO will be
changed to the less robust way?

Yes, all six muxes will adopt 64QAM


But will the transmission power be increased as compensation?


Yes, by 7 to 10dB, but I think the compensation is round the other way !



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Old December 17th 07, 09:54 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Alan
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In message , Mark Carver
wrote
Paul D.Smith wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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On Dec 16, 11:21 pm, "Matti Lamprhey" [email protected]
reversed.com wrote:

Am I right in thinking that the BBC's transmissions post DSO will be
changed to the less robust way?
Yes, all six muxes will adopt 64QAM

But will the transmission power be increased as compensation?


Yes, by 7 to 10dB, but I think the compensation is round the other way !


Wasn't there also some talk of changing the carrier mode which will have
some benefits for the robustness of reception?
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