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Old May 20th 04, 06:21 PM
Mike
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I was reading the other thread on ESPN, and after getting my box and
watching all the HDTV offerings on my local Comcast, the ESPN is by far the
worst of all the network offerrings. It just looks like they are stretching
the pictures. I watched a college hockey game (hey Im from the south I
didn't know what was going on) on one of the inHD channels and the pictures
looked great, then I compared it to Stanley cup hockey (I assume this is the
guy that met up with Dr. Livingston) on ESPN, and ESPN sucked. I hope their
live football games are better quality than this.


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Old May 20th 04, 06:56 PM
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"Mike" wrote in message
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I was reading the other thread on ESPN, and after getting my box and
watching all the HDTV offerings on my local Comcast, the ESPN is by far

the
worst of all the network offerrings. It just looks like they are

stretching
the pictures. I watched a college hockey game (hey Im from the south I
didn't know what was going on) on one of the inHD channels and the

pictures
looked great, then I compared it to Stanley cup hockey (I assume this is

the
guy that met up with Dr. Livingston) on ESPN, and ESPN sucked. I hope

their
live football games are better quality than this.


I'm not sure ESPN has ever advertised that ALL of their games are available
in HD. Most games, there aren't even any HD cameras in the building, so
those are the ones that ESPN stretches the picture for. They do have some
that are in HD, though, that look tremendously better, but probably not
quite as good as that college one you watched.
I haven't yet seen an ESPN HD football game, but I'm sure you'll notice the
difference, as those games are ones that ESPN advertises will be in HD.




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Old May 20th 04, 07:00 PM
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"Mike" wrote in message
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I was reading the other thread on ESPN, and after getting my box and
watching all the HDTV offerings on my local Comcast, the ESPN is by far

the
worst of all the network offerrings. It just looks like they are

stretching
the pictures. I watched a college hockey game (hey Im from the south I
didn't know what was going on) on one of the inHD channels and the

pictures
looked great, then I compared it to Stanley cup hockey (I assume this is

the
guy that met up with Dr. Livingston) on ESPN, and ESPN sucked. I hope

their
live football games are better quality than this.


Only a small percentage of the content on ESPN HD is actually in HD -- the
rest of it, as you've noticed, is stretched, which is pretty annoying.
Sunday night baseball is in HD, as were (I think) their Sunday night
football telecasts. There are also some random basketball and hockey
telecasts in HD, but not much more. For everything else, you're better off
watching regular ESPN.

Mark


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Old May 21st 04, 12:32 AM
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I watched quite a few football games on ESPN-HD last season. Not quite the
picture I got on CBS-HD but still exceptional!

"Mike" wrote in message
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I was reading the other thread on ESPN, and after getting my box and
watching all the HDTV offerings on my local Comcast, the ESPN is by far

the
worst of all the network offerrings. It just looks like they are

stretching
the pictures. I watched a college hockey game (hey Im from the south I
didn't know what was going on) on one of the inHD channels and the

pictures
looked great, then I compared it to Stanley cup hockey (I assume this is

the
guy that met up with Dr. Livingston) on ESPN, and ESPN sucked. I hope

their
live football games are better quality than this.




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Old May 21st 04, 12:41 AM
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In article , Mike says...

I was reading the other thread on ESPN, and after getting my box and
watching all the HDTV offerings on my local Comcast, the ESPN is by far the
worst of all the network offerrings. It just looks like they are stretching
the pictures. I watched a college hockey game (hey Im from the south I
didn't know what was going on) on one of the inHD channels and the pictures
looked great, then I compared it to Stanley cup hockey (I assume this is the
guy that met up with Dr. Livingston) on ESPN, and ESPN sucked. I hope their
live football games are better quality than this.




If you're watching in 16:9 aspect, even their true HD content is crap. They
produce it in 4:3 and stretch it, which degrades the picture. The HD picture
okay if I watch in 4:3 but isn't widescreen a big part of the HDTV experience?
ESPN gives a lame excuse about needing to do 4:3 so their score ticker will show
properly. Somehow CBS manages to produce a true 16:9 HDTV picture as well as
their 4:3 SDTV picture complete with score ticker. The truth is that Eisner and
company don't give a damn and won't spend the money to do it right. They figure
viewers are so addicted to sports that they'll just pay more each year
regardless of how crappy the picture is.



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Old May 21st 04, 01:21 AM
Mike
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"Mark Hanson" wrote in message
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Sunday night baseball is in HD, as were (I think) their Sunday night
football telecasts. There are also some random basketball and hockey
telecasts in HD, but not much more. For everything else, you're better off
watching regular ESPN.


Well that's encouraging at least. I like to watch Sunday night football,
was hoping it was a good quality HD. I'm watching the Phillies/Dodgers game
now on comcasts's inHD channel and it looks really good.


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Old May 21st 04, 01:24 AM
Mike
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"RobHolif" wrote in message
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I watched quite a few football games on ESPN-HD last season. Not quite the
picture I got on CBS-HD but still exceptional!


The CBS affiliate is broadcasting a digital signal but I'm not sure yet if
they do HD. The digital signal the cable is picking up from them is
actually washed out compared to the analog channel. In these smaller
markets I think they are going to drag their feet and do what only the FCC
requires at the last minute. I'm hoping they get HD before football season.
But like the old man I used to work with used to say, hope in one hand and
doody (cleaned up) in the other hand and see which piles up faster.


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Old May 21st 04, 01:27 AM
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"BillJ" wrote in message
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their 4:3 SDTV picture complete with score ticker. The truth is that

Eisner and
company don't give a damn and won't spend the money to do it right. They

figure
viewers are so addicted to sports that they'll just pay more each year
regardless of how crappy the picture is.


I know, discouraging isn't it. ESPN has always been a pioneer in sports
coverage I would have thought they would have really been in the forefront
of this. Disappointing, if that is their thinking.


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Old May 21st 04, 02:03 PM
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"Mike" wrote in message . ..
I was reading the other thread on ESPN, and after getting my box and
watching all the HDTV offerings on my local Comcast, the ESPN is by far the
worst of all the network offerrings. It just looks like they are stretching
the pictures. I watched a college hockey game (hey Im from the south I
didn't know what was going on) on one of the inHD channels and the pictures
looked great, then I compared it to Stanley cup hockey (I assume this is the
guy that met up with Dr. Livingston) on ESPN, and ESPN sucked. I hope their
live football games are better quality than this.


God almighty. Don't you people read the freakin' archives? I'm so
sick of this topic.
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Old May 21st 04, 04:12 PM
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Mike wrote:
I was reading the other thread on ESPN, and after getting my box and
watching all the HDTV offerings on my local Comcast, the ESPN is by far the
worst of all the network offerrings. It just looks like they are stretching
the pictures. I watched a college hockey game (hey Im from the south I
didn't know what was going on) on one of the inHD channels and the pictures
looked great, then I compared it to Stanley cup hockey (I assume this is the
guy that met up with Dr. Livingston) on ESPN, and ESPN sucked. I hope their
live football games are better quality than this.



Not only is virtally all sports on ESPN HD low-def, the
ones that aren't are in med-def , aka 720 scanlines. When I saw
this format for the first time on Sunday night baseball,
I was taken back by how bad it looked compared to
CBS football games last fall (1080 scanlines.)
At first, I thought the game was being shown in better-than-average
SDTV. Then I found that it was passing as HDTV,
which explained everything.

Jeff B



 




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