Choose whether to listen to Background Music or not - UPDATE

Dickie mint wrote:
Did anyone catch Points of View on Sunday?
Yet another New Media darling seemed to be suggesting that they were
going to trial user selectable background music on programmes.

This is in response to the hundreds of complaints about its unsuitable,
annoyance factor, loudness or just sheer quantity of it!

The man said that they were working on a way of allowing the viewer to
turn the background music on or off, using the red button.

I am assuming that the lovies will be putting out one or two programmes
with a second, musicless audio. A second audio wouldn't take up too
much bitrate, on four BBC TV services. :-) Are there many STBs that
could select another audio as main?

Then having "met viewers demands" they'll declare it too expensive, too
little used or some other excuse to quickly drop the idea.

Course they could put out a second Audio Description style track with
just the music on it. Ah but there's only one DTT box that decodes AD!

A guy on Points of View says they've chosen the programme to trial red
button selection of background music or not.

Surprise, surprise it's Alan Titchmarsh's "Nature of Britain" on BBC1
which just happens to be up against the last two episodes of Heroes
Series 1 on BBC2, which just as many viewers will be watching.
You'll have to press the red button to select the background music less
version of course, and anyone recording it for later viewing can't get
this option.

Then they'll say that the background music less version wasn't as
popular, and it just goes to prove that viewers prefer it!

Oh, and did you get the comment - from the series producer no less -
that removing the background music wasn't as difficult as he thought it
would be! Doh!

Dickie mint wrote:
Dickie mint wrote:
Did anyone catch Points of View on Sunday?
Yet another New Media darling seemed to be suggesting that they were
going to trial user selectable background music on programmes.

This is in response to the hundreds of complaints about its
unsuitable, annoyance factor, loudness or just sheer quantity of it!

The man said that they were working on a way of allowing the viewer
to turn the background music on or off, using the red button.

I am assuming that the lovies will be putting out one or two
programmes with a second, musicless audio. A second audio wouldn't
take up too much bitrate, on four BBC TV services. :-) Are there
many STBs that could select another audio as main?

Then having "met viewers demands" they'll declare it too expensive,
too little used or some other excuse to quickly drop the idea.

Course they could put out a second Audio Description style track with
just the music on it. Ah but there's only one DTT box that decodes
AD!

A guy on Points of View says they've chosen the programme to trial red
button selection of background music or not.

Surprise, surprise it's Alan Titchmarsh's "Nature of Britain" on BBC1
which just happens to be up against the last two episodes of Heroes
Series 1 on BBC2, which just as many viewers will be watching.
You'll have to press the red button to select the background music
less version of course, and anyone recording it for later viewing
can't get this option.

Then they'll say that the background music less version wasn't as
popular, and it just goes to prove that viewers prefer it!

Oh, and did you get the comment - from the series producer no less -
that removing the background music wasn't as difficult as he thought
it would be! Doh!

How about having an "opt in" music track instead of an "opt out"? The first
program they should trial is "Under the Hammer" which has the corniest music
references you could imagine.

(kim)

kim wrote:

How about having an "opt in" music track instead of an "opt out"? The first
program they should trial is "Under the Hammer" which has the corniest music
references you could imagine.

(kim)



Good idea!

Trouble is that the playout copy goes to all platforms, including
analogue. So the main audio has to have background music because the
producer says it adds atmosphere :-)

Richard

in mem. Jean Charles de Menezes
"Dickie mint" wrote in message
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Dickie mint wrote:
Did anyone catch Points of View on Sunday?
Yet another New Media darling seemed to be suggesting that they were
going to trial user selectable background music on programmes.

This is in response to the hundreds of complaints about its unsuitable,
annoyance factor, loudness or just sheer quantity of it!

The man said that they were working on a way of allowing the viewer to
turn the background music on or off, using the red button.

I am assuming that the lovies will be putting out one or two programmes
with a second, musicless audio. A second audio wouldn't take up too much
bitrate, on four BBC TV services. :-) Are there many STBs that could
select another audio as main?

Then having "met viewers demands" they'll declare it too expensive, too
little used or some other excuse to quickly drop the idea.

Course they could put out a second Audio Description style track with
just the music on it. Ah but there's only one DTT box that decodes AD!

A guy on Points of View says they've chosen the programme to trial red
button selection of background music or not.

Surprise, surprise it's Alan Titchmarsh's "Nature of Britain" on BBC1
which just happens to be up against the last two episodes of Heroes Series
1 on BBC2, which just as many viewers will be watching.
You'll have to press the red button to select the background music less
version of course, and anyone recording it for later viewing can't get
this option.


Surely it's not rocket science, with narrated programs, just put music on
one stereo channel and the consumer can adjust the level accordingly. After
all you don't need stereo for someone speaking to a camera.

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In the name of Allan wrote:

[Snip]

Surely it's not rocket science, with narrated programs, just put music on
one stereo channel and the consumer can adjust the level accordingly.
After all you don't need stereo for someone speaking to a camera.


and for those who are listening in mono ..... ?

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Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11

"charles" wrote in message
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In article ,
In the name of Allan wrote:

[Snip]

Surely it's not rocket science, with narrated programs, just put music on
one stereo channel and the consumer can adjust the level accordingly.
After all you don't need stereo for someone speaking to a camera.


and for those who are listening in mono ..... ?

buy a new telly....

On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 19:31:57 +0000, Dickie mint
wrote:

[snip]
You'll have to press the red button to select the background music less
version of course, and anyone recording it for later viewing can't get
this option.

I wonder why they can't they just put it in as an alternative
"language" and do away with the red button stuff. Then, decent PVRs
would record both audio PIDs and you could select on playback.

Cheers,

Colin.

In article ,
In the name of Allan wrote:
Surely it's not rocket science, with narrated programs, just put music
on one stereo channel and the consumer can adjust the level
accordingly. After all you don't need stereo for someone speaking to a
camera.

You don't 'need' stereo TV at all if that's all you think of the music
played through it. Complete waste of money.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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"kim" wrote in message
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snip

How about having an "opt in" music track instead of an "opt out"? The
first program they should trial is "Under the Hammer" which has the
corniest music references you could imagine.

The tune for the estate agents reminds me of the music for the spiv "Flash
Harry" (a very young George Cole) in St. Trinians - still if the cap fits...


(kim)

AD capable TVs and set top boxes. The Logic box used in Whitehaven for the
supports scheme is the only currently made box with AD
However, and rather perversely I feel, both Panasonic and Sony's new TV have
it, of the two, the Panasonics are the only one to allow separation of the
channels so they can drive an infra red set of phones or whatever, allowing
the rest of the inconsiderate family to not hear the ad.

Brian

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"Dickie mint" wrote in message
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Dickie mint wrote:
Did anyone catch Points of View on Sunday?
Yet another New Media darling seemed to be suggesting that they were
going to trial user selectable background music on programmes.

This is in response to the hundreds of complaints about its unsuitable,
annoyance factor, loudness or just sheer quantity of it!

The man said that they were working on a way of allowing the viewer to
turn the background music on or off, using the red button.

I am assuming that the lovies will be putting out one or two programmes
with a second, musicless audio. A second audio wouldn't take up too much
bitrate, on four BBC TV services. :-) Are there many STBs that could
select another audio as main?

Then having "met viewers demands" they'll declare it too expensive, too
little used or some other excuse to quickly drop the idea.

Course they could put out a second Audio Description style track with
just the music on it. Ah but there's only one DTT box that decodes AD!

A guy on Points of View says they've chosen the programme to trial red
button selection of background music or not.

Surprise, surprise it's Alan Titchmarsh's "Nature of Britain" on BBC1
which just happens to be up against the last two episodes of Heroes Series
1 on BBC2, which just as many viewers will be watching.
You'll have to press the red button to select the background music less
version of course, and anyone recording it for later viewing can't get
this option.

Then they'll say that the background music less version wasn't as popular,
and it just goes to prove that viewers prefer it!

Oh, and did you get the comment - from the series producer no less - that
removing the background music wasn't as difficult as he thought it would
be! Doh!