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"Ashley Booth" wrote in message
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Commander Gideon wrote:

When did this start,just spotted it on Sky EPG number 435,I think its
FTV! An alternative to Sky Sports News I suppose!

Made by ITN.

Might be the start of a long overdue revival for ITN, because if Sky launch
"Picnic" then Sky Sports News will no longer be available on Freeview,
leaving the field exclusively to ITN. Better still from ITN's point of view,
Sky News will leave Freeview as well. With nowhere else for their
advertisers to go (since they can't advertise on BBC News 24) a relaunch of
the ITN News Channel is a practical certainty, even if it is going to be
called "Virgin News".

Stephen wrote:
"Ashley Booth" wrote in message
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Commander Gideon wrote:

When did this start,just spotted it on Sky EPG number 435,I think its
FTV! An alternative to Sky Sports News I suppose!
Made by ITN.

Might be the start of a long overdue revival for ITN, because if Sky launch
"Picnic" then Sky Sports News will no longer be available on Freeview,
leaving the field exclusively to ITN. Better still from ITN's point of view,
Sky News will leave Freeview as well. With nowhere else for their
advertisers to go (since they can't advertise on BBC News 24) a relaunch of
the ITN News Channel is a practical certainty, even if it is going to be
called "Virgin News".

News channels are far too expensive to run, I doubt ITV will resurrect the
ITN/ITV News Channel. I even hear rumours that Sky News might go 'subs only'
on Astra 28E next year ?

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I personally feel that if sky remove their channels from freeview, they will
notice the drop in new subs as a million adverts are not going to replace
programs, as the public is now pretty savvy about adverts and their barely
perceptible tendency to spin.

Brian

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"Stephen" wrote in message
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"Ashley Booth" wrote in message
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Commander Gideon wrote:

When did this start,just spotted it on Sky EPG number 435,I think its
FTV! An alternative to Sky Sports News I suppose!

Made by ITN.

Might be the start of a long overdue revival for ITN, because if Sky
launch
"Picnic" then Sky Sports News will no longer be available on Freeview,
leaving the field exclusively to ITN. Better still from ITN's point of
view,
Sky News will leave Freeview as well. With nowhere else for their
advertisers to go (since they can't advertise on BBC News 24) a relaunch
of
the ITN News Channel is a practical certainty, even if it is going to be
called "Virgin News".

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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Stephen wrote:
"Ashley Booth" wrote in message
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Commander Gideon wrote:

When did this start,just spotted it on Sky EPG number 435,I think its
FTV! An alternative to Sky Sports News I suppose!
Made by ITN.

Might be the start of a long overdue revival for ITN, because if Sky
launch
"Picnic" then Sky Sports News will no longer be available on Freeview,
leaving the field exclusively to ITN. Better still from ITN's point of
view,
Sky News will leave Freeview as well. With nowhere else for their
advertisers to go (since they can't advertise on BBC News 24) a relaunch
of
the ITN News Channel is a practical certainty, even if it is going to be
called "Virgin News".

News channels are far too expensive to run, I doubt ITV will resurrect the
ITN/ITV News Channel. I even hear rumours that Sky News might go 'subs
only' on Astra 28E next year ?

There's a difference with ITN though, because ITV has to pay for someone to
make the main news bulletins for ITV 1, and this covers most of the costs of
a 24 hour channel anyway. All the content is there already, like it is with
BBC News 24, where the bulk of the output is repeats of packages edited for
the main news on BBC 1.

Virgin wants a commercial news channel to replace Sky News on cable, and
their funding should cover the relatively small additional costs of an extra
presentation suite to playout already completed news items from ITN's
server, a script editor, and one extra newsreader.

As for Sky News on Astra, I suspect that is a spoiler for Freesat. It may
still be free, but only free to view, so you'll only be able to watch Sky
News if you get "Freesat from Sky", and not if you get Freesat from anyone
else. This is already the case with Fox News.

"Picnic" is probably the same idea. Sky News may remain free on terrestrial,
but only free to view, so if you still want Sky News you have to have Sky's
upcoming version of a Freeview box, with a slot for a Sky card and the
capability of inticing viewers into trial subscriptions to the single
channel terrestrial versions of Sky Sports and Sky Movies, and pay per view
sports and movies.

"Stephen" wrote in message
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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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Stephen wrote:
"Ashley Booth" wrote in message
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Commander Gideon wrote:

When did this start,just spotted it on Sky EPG number 435,I think
its
FTV! An alternative to Sky Sports News I suppose!
Made by ITN.

Might be the start of a long overdue revival for ITN, because if Sky
launch
"Picnic" then Sky Sports News will no longer be available on
Freeview,
leaving the field exclusively to ITN. Better still from ITN's point
of view,
Sky News will leave Freeview as well. With nowhere else for their
advertisers to go (since they can't advertise on BBC News 24) a
relaunch of
the ITN News Channel is a practical certainty, even if it is going
to be
called "Virgin News".

News channels are far too expensive to run, I doubt ITV will
resurrect the ITN/ITV News Channel. I even hear rumours that Sky News
might go 'subs only' on Astra 28E next year ?

There's a difference with ITN though, because ITV has to pay for
someone to make the main news bulletins for ITV 1, and this covers
most of the costs of a 24 hour channel anyway. All the content is
there already, like it is with BBC News 24, where the bulk of the
output is repeats of packages edited for the main news on BBC 1.

Virgin wants a commercial news channel to replace Sky News on cable,
and their funding should cover the relatively small additional costs
of an extra presentation suite to playout already completed news items
from ITN's server, a script editor, and one extra newsreader.

As for Sky News on Astra, I suspect that is a spoiler for Freesat. It
may still be free, but only free to view, so you'll only be able to
watch Sky News if you get "Freesat from Sky", and not if you get
Freesat from anyone else. This is already the case with Fox News.

"Picnic" is probably the same idea. Sky News may remain free on
terrestrial, but only free to view, so if you still want Sky News you
have to have Sky's upcoming version of a Freeview box, with a slot for
a Sky card and the capability of inticing viewers into trial
subscriptions to the single channel terrestrial versions of Sky Sports
and Sky Movies, and pay per view sports and movies.


Are you sure Sky News on 501 (Astra 2B, transponder 26) is Free to View,
as opposed to Free to Air?

Last time I checked, it was FTA (no viewing card required).

"Paul Martin" wrote in message
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In article ,
Stephen wrote:

As for Sky News on Astra, I suspect that is a spoiler for Freesat. It may
still be free, but only free to view, so you'll only be able to watch Sky
News if you get "Freesat from Sky", and not if you get Freesat from
anyone
else. This is already the case with Fox News.

Fox News needs a subscription. It's not available as a FTV channel.

Well, we have a Sky receiver at work with a Free to View card for Channel 4
and five, and it gets Fox News.

"Bob Lucas" wrote in message
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"Stephen" wrote in message
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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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Stephen wrote:
"Ashley Booth" wrote in message
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Commander Gideon wrote:

When did this start,just spotted it on Sky EPG number 435,I think its
FTV! An alternative to Sky Sports News I suppose!
Made by ITN.

Might be the start of a long overdue revival for ITN, because if Sky
launch
"Picnic" then Sky Sports News will no longer be available on Freeview,
leaving the field exclusively to ITN. Better still from ITN's point of
view,
Sky News will leave Freeview as well. With nowhere else for their
advertisers to go (since they can't advertise on BBC News 24) a
relaunch of
the ITN News Channel is a practical certainty, even if it is going to
be
called "Virgin News".

News channels are far too expensive to run, I doubt ITV will resurrect
the ITN/ITV News Channel. I even hear rumours that Sky News might go
'subs only' on Astra 28E next year ?

There's a difference with ITN though, because ITV has to pay for someone
to make the main news bulletins for ITV 1, and this covers most of the
costs of a 24 hour channel anyway. All the content is there already, like
it is with BBC News 24, where the bulk of the output is repeats of
packages edited for the main news on BBC 1.

Virgin wants a commercial news channel to replace Sky News on cable, and
their funding should cover the relatively small additional costs of an
extra presentation suite to playout already completed news items from
ITN's server, a script editor, and one extra newsreader.

As for Sky News on Astra, I suspect that is a spoiler for Freesat. It may
still be free, but only free to view, so you'll only be able to watch Sky
News if you get "Freesat from Sky", and not if you get Freesat from
anyone else. This is already the case with Fox News.

"Picnic" is probably the same idea. Sky News may remain free on
terrestrial, but only free to view, so if you still want Sky News you
have to have Sky's upcoming version of a Freeview box, with a slot for a
Sky card and the capability of inticing viewers into trial subscriptions
to the single channel terrestrial versions of Sky Sports and Sky Movies,
and pay per view sports and movies.


Are you sure Sky News on 501 (Astra 2B, transponder 26) is Free to View,
as opposed to Free to Air?

Last time I checked, it was FTA (no viewing card required).

It's FTA, but I was replying to the OP's rumours about it becoming "subs
only" and suggested that FTV may be more likely.

Stephen wrote:
"Paul Martin" wrote in message
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In article ,
Stephen wrote:

As for Sky News on Astra, I suspect that is a spoiler for Freesat.
It may still be free, but only free to view, so you'll only be able
to watch Sky News if you get "Freesat from Sky", and not if you get
Freesat from anyone
else. This is already the case with Fox News.

Fox News needs a subscription. It's not available as a FTV channel.

Well, we have a Sky receiver at work with a Free to View card for
Channel 4 and five, and it gets Fox News.

If you really have a Free to View card then someone has made a mistake in
enabling it for Fox News, it is definately a subscription channel. I can't
imagine why anyone would pay to watch it though.

On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 10:34:03 -0000, Adrian A wrote:

If you really have a Free to View card then someone has made a mistake
in enabling it for Fox News, it is definately a subscription channel.

Well I've just chuntered through all the channels on DSAT from from 501 to
517, Digi Box with "Freesat from Sky" card and found that I can get all
channels except:

Card inserted:
505 CNBC
513 NDTV 24x7

No Card:
505 CNBC
510 Fox News
513 NDTV 24x7

That to me makes Fox FTV and everything else (except 505 and 513) FTA.
*BUT* Sky have a habit of making some channels/groups of channels
available to Freesat viewers as a promotion. Quite often the kids channels
during school holidays... Maybe they have one of those running ATM?

507 S4C2 only has a static caption but not a "To subscribe..." or "Please
insert card..." digibox generated message.

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On Sat, 1 Dec 2007 23:04:12 -0000, "Stephen"
wrote:

Well, we have a Sky receiver at work with a Free to View card for Channel 4
and five, and it gets Fox News.

Let me guess, have you got a Pace box?

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