Any Tivos that don't require service subscription?

Hi...

I'm looking into dvrs and was wondering if there were any Tivos that
don't require the monthly subscription? As jazzy as the recommender and
tv guide are, I don't really need them or the extra expense. Just
looking for a digital replacement for the vcr.

Amazon has the tivo hd on sale, but it doesn't say anything about the
subscription. A lot of the series 2 and 3 listings say something about
a rebate from Tivo with subscription, but the hd doesn't have that
either.

Thanks
Mark

On 2007-11-24, Mark Modrall wrote:

I'm looking into dvrs and was wondering if there were any Tivos that
don't require the monthly subscription? As jazzy as the recommender and
tv guide are, I don't really need them or the extra expense. Just
looking for a digital replacement for the vcr.

Most (almost safe to assume all) of the Series1 TiVos do not need a
subscription. Also, the Pioneer and Toshiba TiVo/DVD combo boxes come
with TiVo Basic so don't need subscriptions (the Humax TiVo/DVD combo box
does not come with TiVo Basic so does need a subscription though).

Amazon has the tivo hd on sale, but it doesn't say anything about the
subscription.

It won't work without a subscription.

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I'm looking into dvrs and was wondering if there were any Tivos that
don't require the monthly subscription? As jazzy as the recommender and
tv guide are, I don't really need them or the extra expense. Just
looking for a digital replacement for the vcr.

I'd like to suggest that what you are looking for ISN'T a Tivo.
It's a DVR with a hard disk (which includes a bunch of things that
aren't Tivos, and some Tivos, but which still work great as a
substitute for a VCR. Some of them can burn DVDs, also.

Amazon has the tivo hd on sale, but it doesn't say anything about the
subscription. A lot of the series 2 and 3 listings say something about
a rebate from Tivo with subscription, but the hd doesn't have that
either.

As I understand it, the Tivo HD requires a subscription.

Some Tivo Series 1 can be used as time-and-channel recorder without
a subscription. I suggest that if that's what you want it for, a
non-Tivo might do what you want for a better price.

Mark Modrall wrote:
I'm looking into dvrs and was wondering if there were any Tivos that
don't require the monthly subscription? As jazzy as the recommender and

You can reasonably assume that any new TiVo you get will require a
subscription. (Some really old second hand ones and some third party
boxes with "TiVo basic" software don't, but you're less likely to come
across them).

tv guide are, I don't really need them or the extra expense. Just
looking for a digital replacement for the vcr.

If you don't specifically need direct recording from a "cablecard" then
you might be better off looking at a "build your own" solution using
mythtv or Windows Media Center Edition. It's a more "techie" solution
and harder to do, but if you're comfortable with DIY solutions then this
will meet your stated needs without any subscription requirements.

Amazon has the tivo hd on sale, but it doesn't say anything about the
subscription. A lot of the series 2 and 3 listings say something about
a rebate from Tivo with subscription, but the hd doesn't have that
either.

The TiVoHD needs a subscription.

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Comes with Tivo Basic which is a 3 day menu


"Mark Modrall" wrote in message
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Hi...

I'm looking into dvrs and was wondering if there were any Tivos that
don't require the monthly subscription? As jazzy as the recommender and
tv guide are, I don't really need them or the extra expense. Just
looking for a digital replacement for the vcr.

Amazon has the tivo hd on sale, but it doesn't say anything about the
subscription. A lot of the series 2 and 3 listings say something about
a rebate from Tivo with subscription, but the hd doesn't have that
either.

Thanks
Mark

"Mark Modrall" wrote in message
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Hi...

I'm looking into dvrs and was wondering if there were any Tivos
that don't require the monthly subscription? As jazzy as the
recommender and tv guide are, I don't really need them or the extra
expense. Just looking for a digital replacement for the vcr.

Amazon has the tivo hd on sale, but it doesn't say anything about
the subscription. A lot of the series 2 and 3 listings say
something about a rebate from Tivo with subscription, but the hd
doesn't have that either.

Thanks
Mark

If all you want is a DVR with a guide, then you probably do NOT want a tivo
(that is a trademarked name).... there are several dvr's that use other
software... Sice you say you are looking into dvr's, why are you looking
only for tivo's?

For instance, I have 5 DVR's, but only 2 are tivo's (other 3 are all
toshiba's)...... You may want to check these out from toshiba (the
multi-drive with hard disk ones are dvr's, sorry I only have toshiba's so
that's all I can point you to quickly)... The ones with hard disks use the
online TV guide for setting recordings
http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/dvr/dvdrecorder.asp

On Nov 24, 10:19 pm, "Peter Pan"
wrote:
"Mark Modrall" wrote in message
...
Hi...

I'm looking into dvrs and was wondering if there were any Tivos
that don't require the monthly subscription? As jazzy as the
recommender and tv guide are, I don't really need them or the extra
expense. Just looking for a digital replacement for the vcr.

Amazon has the tivo hd on sale, but it doesn't say anything about
the subscription. A lot of the series 2 and 3 listings say
something about a rebate from Tivo with subscription, but the hd
doesn't have that either.

Thanks
Mark

If all you want is a DVR with a guide, then you probably do NOT want a tivo
(that is a trademarked name).... there are several dvr's that use other
software... Sice you say you are looking into dvr's, why are you looking
only for tivo's?

For instance, I have 5 DVR's, but only 2 are tivo's (other 3 are all
toshiba's)...... You may want to check these out from toshiba (the
multi-drive with hard disk ones are dvr's, sorry I only have toshiba's so
that's all I can point you to quickly)... The ones with hard disks use the
online TV guide for setting recordingshttp://www.tacp.toshiba.com/dvr/dvdrecorder.asp

Can the Series 2 DT be used for OTA recording?? I assume not, since I
believe that it needs some type of program guide to record, using
season pass?? Or can you just use the Chan & Time recording similar to
a VCR??
I have a good friend that had bought a Panasonic DVR with a built in
DVD recorder. And paid around $500.00 for it new. It used the TV Guide
program guide, but was analog. And as I understand it from him, he was
told that it would no longer work since TV Guide will now only do
digital now. So the TV Guide portion of this machine, that he only
bought about two yrs. ago is useless in that respect. But I believe he
can still set it like a VCR.

On 2007-11-25, Jazz_Azz wrote:

Can the Series 2 DT be used for OTA recording?? I assume not, since I

The S2DT, unlike earlier units, cannot record from antenna.

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On Nov 24, 11:51 pm, Mike Hunt wrote:
On 2007-11-25, Jazz_Azz wrote:



Can the Series 2 DT be used for OTA recording?? I assume not, since I

The S2DT, unlike earlier units, cannot record from antenna.

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Was that a misstep on TIVOs part??

On 2007-11-25, Jazz_Azz wrote:
On Nov 24, 11:51 pm, Mike Hunt wrote:
On 2007-11-25, Jazz_Azz wrote:



Can the Series 2 DT be used for OTA recording?? I assume not, since I

The S2DT, unlike earlier units, cannot record from antenna.

Was that a misstep on TIVOs part??

Some think so but I think overall, no.

From TiVo's wiki:
This is due to an FCC mandate that all devices sold after March 2007
with an NTSC tuner must also contain an ATSC tuner. TiVo therefore had
to choose between adding ATSC support, or removing NTSC support. With
the S2DT they opted to remove NTSC, the Series3 supports NTSC and
ATSC, along with digital cable channels (with CableCards).

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