HDTV LCD TV'S WITH TWO TUNERS?

Are there currently on the market HDTV LCD TV sets with TWO tv tuners
so that a PIP feature can be used?

best, Aaron

On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:53:07 -0800, wrote:

Are there currently on the market HDTV LCD TV sets with TWO tv tuners so
that a PIP feature can be used?

All newer TV's have 2 tuners in them at a minimum. One NTSC and one ATSC.
Most sets that support PIP will let you select a picture from each source
including input of other sources like cable or sat. If you're looking for
PIP with both being the same kind of tuner, you will probably have a hard
time finding it. None of my TV's support PIP, yet I can get PIP on any of
them using multiple tuners with MythTV. But since i can also record
multiple shows, PIP becomes somewhat antiquated.:-)




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On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 18:06:06 GMT Wes Newell wrote:

| On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:53:07 -0800, wrote:
|
| Are there currently on the market HDTV LCD TV sets with TWO tv tuners so
| that a PIP feature can be used?
|
| All newer TV's have 2 tuners in them at a minimum. One NTSC and one ATSC.
| Most sets that support PIP will let you select a picture from each source
| including input of other sources like cable or sat. If you're looking for
| PIP with both being the same kind of tuner, you will probably have a hard
| time finding it. None of my TV's support PIP, yet I can get PIP on any of
| them using multiple tuners with MythTV. But since i can also record
| multiple shows, PIP becomes somewhat antiquated.:-)

How well will that work for OTA broadcasts in the USA on 18 Feb 2009?

Psychic signals I got from 's post suggested to me that
he was more interested in being able to have a _digital_ program in each of
the PIP views, hence requiring two tuners, each capable of the appropriate
modulation of interest (be that 8VSB for over the air or QAM for cable).
I did not get any psychic signals on which source he wanted to use it for.

Personally, I prefer multiple digital tuners so I can get signals from two
or more separate antennas without having to combine the RF which can mess
up lots of things for signals getting in on both. Ideally, a single remote
that can smartly control which tuner is selected would help so that it
would not be necessary to switch between different HDMI inputs on the set
and pick a different remote for which external STB was used ... which is
the fallback method to achieve this if no direct solution is found.

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wrote:
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 18:06:06 GMT Wes Newell
wrote:

| On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:53:07 -0800, wrote:
|
| Are there currently on the market HDTV LCD TV sets with TWO tv tuners
| so that a PIP feature can be used?
|
| All newer TV's have 2 tuners in them at a minimum. One NTSC and one
| ATSC. Most sets that support PIP will let you select a picture from
| each source including input of other sources like cable or sat. If
| you're looking for PIP with both being the same kind of tuner, you will
| probably have a hard time finding it. None of my TV's support PIP, yet
| I can get PIP on any of them using multiple tuners with MythTV. But
| since i can also record multiple shows, PIP becomes somewhat
| antiquated.:-)

How well will that work for OTA broadcasts in the USA on 18 Feb 2009?

Psychic signals I got from 's post suggested to me
that he was more interested in being able to have a _digital_ program in
each of the PIP views, hence requiring two tuners, each capable of the
appropriate modulation of interest (be that 8VSB for over the air or QAM
for cable). I did not get any psychic signals on which source he wanted
to use it for.

Personally, I prefer multiple digital tuners so I can get signals from
two or more separate antennas without having to combine the RF which can
mess up lots of things for signals getting in on both. Ideally, a single
remote that can smartly control which tuner is selected would help so
that it would not be necessary to switch between different HDMI inputs on
the set and pick a different remote for which external STB was used ...
which is the fallback method to achieve this if no direct solution is
found.

Check the Mitsubishi lcd's. I believe they have
two separate ota digital tuners and pip, also.

Chip

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On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:53:07 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

Are there currently on the market HDTV LCD TV sets with TWO tv tuners
so that a PIP feature can be used?

I believe the Sony 40S3000 has PIP which I presume means two tuners,
and that's a relatively low-end set.

J.

JXStern wrote:
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:53:07 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

Are there currently on the market HDTV LCD TV sets with TWO tv tuners
so that a PIP feature can be used?

I believe the Sony 40S3000 has PIP which I presume means two tuners,
and that's a relatively low-end set.

J.

PIP means the ability to display two sources on the same screen.
It doesn't mean that the television has two tuners.

Chip

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On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 20:49:01 +0000, phil-news-nospam wrote:

On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 18:06:06 GMT Wes Newell
wrote:

| On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:53:07 -0800, wrote: |
| Are there currently on the market HDTV LCD TV sets with TWO tv tuners
so | that a PIP feature can be used?
|
| All newer TV's have 2 tuners in them at a minimum. One NTSC and one
ATSC. | Most sets that support PIP will let you select a picture from
each source | including input of other sources like cable or sat. If
you're looking for | PIP with both being the same kind of tuner, you
will probably have a hard | time finding it. None of my TV's support
PIP, yet I can get PIP on any of | them using multiple tuners with
MythTV. But since i can also record | multiple shows, PIP becomes
somewhat antiquated.:-)

How well will that work for OTA broadcasts in the USA on 18 Feb 2009?

Mine will work the same since I haven't used NTSC (analog) in over 2 years.
Of course if you use OTA NTSC as one of your sources, you'll loose that
capability. so if your TV doesn't support the other inputs or you have no
other input sources, and you only have one ATSC tuner, then you won't have
pip anymore.

Psychic signals I got from 's post suggested to me
that he was more interested in being able to have a _digital_ program in
each of the PIP views, hence requiring two tuners, each capable of the
appropriate modulation of interest (be that 8VSB for over the air or QAM
for cable). I did not get any psychic signals on which source he wanted
to use it for.

If he has digital cable, and his TV has an atsc tuner, and supports PIP,
then he should be able to use PIP with 1 ATSC channel, and one cable
channel. Again, this will depend on the TV sources supported for pip.

Personally, I prefer multiple digital tuners so I can get signals from
two or more separate antennas without having to combine the RF which can
mess up lots of things for signals getting in on both. Ideally, a
single remote that can smartly control which tuner is selected would
help so that it would not be necessary to switch between different HDMI
inputs on the set and pick a different remote for which external STB was
used ... which is the fallback method to achieve this if no direct
solution is found.

I only have antenna source (uhf/vhf). I feeds a total of about 10 tuners.
6 in my mythtv system, and 4 to other various tuners. One remote controls
all of them.




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On 23 Nov 2007 23:16:44 GMT wrote:
| JXStern wrote:
| On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:53:07 -0800 (PST), "
| wrote:
|
| Are there currently on the market HDTV LCD TV sets with TWO tv tuners
| so that a PIP feature can be used?
|
| I believe the Sony 40S3000 has PIP which I presume means two tuners,
| and that's a relatively low-end set.
|
| J.
|
| PIP means the ability to display two sources on the same screen.
| It doesn't mean that the television has two tuners.

Very true. It might require an external STB as one of the sources to be
able to do that for two RF sources. Maybe I'll go over to Circuit City
and Sears tomorrow and hassle the sales people about it (and get them to
hook the TV up to an outside antenna, again).

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On 23 Nov 2007 23:16:44 GMT, wrote:

JXStern wrote:
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:53:07 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

Are there currently on the market HDTV LCD TV sets with TWO tv tuners
so that a PIP feature can be used?

I believe the Sony 40S3000 has PIP which I presume means two tuners,
and that's a relatively low-end set.

J.

PIP means the ability to display two sources on the same screen.
It doesn't mean that the television has two tuners.

Chip

Well that's true in theory, the second could be limited to secondary
RGB inputs or something, but has that ever actually been sold?

J.

JXStern wrote:
On 23 Nov 2007 23:16:44 GMT, wrote:

JXStern wrote:
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:53:07 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

Are there currently on the market HDTV LCD TV sets with TWO tv tuners
so that a PIP feature can be used?
I believe the Sony 40S3000 has PIP which I presume means two tuners,
and that's a relatively low-end set.

J.
PIP means the ability to display two sources on the same screen.
It doesn't mean that the television has two tuners.

Chip

Well that's true in theory, the second could be limited to secondary
RGB inputs or something, but has that ever actually been sold?

J.


The Samsung I have allows the choice of the digital tuner, the analog
tuner, and any of the component, hdmi, or composite inputs, or the RGB
input as the source for either of the two PIP screens. With a few minor
restrictions.