Do S3 TiVos support SDTV?

I am considering a new TiVo box -- one that supports external eSATA hard
drives.

Even though S2 boxes are free from time to time (service agreement
notwithstanding), it does not make sense to buy an S2 at this point in time.

My question is whether or not S3 boxes support analog SDTV cable signals and
SDTV OTA broadcasts. My cable bills are too high now with basic service, so
I do not plan to subscribe to cable-based HDTV. I also do not want to deal
with an external cable box. Some day, I may be forced to buy and HDTV TV
and go to an old-fashioned roof or attic antenna, but, for now, I am stuck
with cable.

Will an S3 meet my needs? Will the image quality for an SDTV broadcast be
as good on an S3 as on an S2?

One other question: Does TiVo Desktop / TTG support S3 yet? If not, is
there a target date for S3 support?

David

"Comcast Newsgroups" shaped the electrons to say:
My question is whether or not S3 boxes support analog SDTV cable signals and
SDTV OTA broadcasts. My cable bills are too high now with basic service, so

Yes to both. The Series3 and the TiVo HD both support analog (NTSC)
and digital (ATSC) antenna as well as analog and digital cable, SD and HD.

Will an S3 meet my needs? Will the image quality for an SDTV broadcast be
as good on an S3 as on an S2?

As good if not better.

One other question: Does TiVo Desktop / TTG support S3 yet? If not, is
there a target date for S3 support?

Yes, the latest software update enabled TTG.

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On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:44:29 -0500, Comcast Newsgroups wrote:

Even though S2 boxes are free from time to time (service agreement
notwithstanding), it does not make sense to buy an S2 at this point in
time.

The S2 was discontinued in March. You can't by a new one now.

My question is whether or not S3 boxes support analog SDTV cable signals
and SDTV OTA broadcasts. My cable bills are too high now with basic
service, so I do not plan to subscribe to cable-based HDTV. I also do
not want to deal with an external cable box. Some day, I may be forced
to buy and HDTV TV and go to an old-fashioned roof or attic antenna,
but, for now, I am stuck with cable.

Will an S3 meet my needs? Will the image quality for an SDTV broadcast
be as good on an S3 as on an S2?

Buying an S3 doesn't make a lot of sense since they came out with the Tivo-
HD priced at $299, compared to the S3 at $799. But either will do what you
want. They both also support NTSC and ATSC OTA broadcast.

One other question: Does TiVo Desktop / TTG support S3 yet? If not, is
there a target date for S3 support?

I'm told all this works now.

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On 2007-11-22, Wes Newell wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:44:29 -0500, Comcast Newsgroups wrote:

Even though S2 boxes are free from time to time (service agreement
notwithstanding), it does not make sense to buy an S2 at this point in
time.

The S2 was discontinued in March. You can't by a new one now.

Related to another thread, is this an opinion or a fact? Are you
referring to S2 with or without including S2DT? Are you implying you
can't buy a new one anywhere or just not from tivo.com? See how murky
reality is, yet you simply state "You can't by a new one now." which
appears as a fact, but isn't correct.

Buying an S3 doesn't make a lot of sense since they came out with the Tivo-
HD priced at $299, compared to the S3 at $799. But either will do what you
want. They both also support NTSC and ATSC OTA broadcast.

And if you are going to buy either, shop around as you can get them
cheaper than from tivo.com

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Thank you, Megazone, Wes, Mike, for your replies.

BTW, Mike is correct about S2s. They are still sold by liquidators and
retailers with old stock. Recently, fatwallet.com pointed to offers where
you actually made money after rebates. The net result is that they are
paying you to take the S2s. Of course you still would need to buy a TiVo
subscription.

David D.

"Wes Newell" wrote in message
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On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:44:29 -0500, Comcast Newsgroups wrote:

Even though S2 boxes are free from time to time (service agreement
notwithstanding), it does not make sense to buy an S2 at this point in
time.

The S2 was discontinued in March. You can't by a new one now.

My question is whether or not S3 boxes support analog SDTV cable signals
and SDTV OTA broadcasts. My cable bills are too high now with basic
service, so I do not plan to subscribe to cable-based HDTV. I also do
not want to deal with an external cable box. Some day, I may be forced
to buy and HDTV TV and go to an old-fashioned roof or attic antenna,
but, for now, I am stuck with cable.

Will an S3 meet my needs? Will the image quality for an SDTV broadcast
be as good on an S3 as on an S2?

Buying an S3 doesn't make a lot of sense since they came out with the
Tivo-
HD priced at $299, compared to the S3 at $799. But either will do what you
want. They both also support NTSC and ATSC OTA broadcast.

One other question: Does TiVo Desktop / TTG support S3 yet? If not, is
there a target date for S3 support?

I'm told all this works now.

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On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:48:24 +0000, Mike Hunt wrote:

On 2007-11-22, Wes Newell wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:44:29 -0500, Comcast Newsgroups wrote:

Even though S2 boxes are free from time to time (service agreement
notwithstanding), it does not make sense to buy an S2 at this point in
time.

The S2 was discontinued in March. You can't by a new one now.

Related to another thread, is this an opinion or a fact? Are you
referring to S2 with or without including S2DT? Are you implying you
can't buy a new one anywhere or just not from tivo.com? See how murky
reality is, yet you simply state "You can't by a new one now." which
appears as a fact, but isn't correct.

Well, who discontinued it? RCA? Hell no, Tivo. What some marketeer may
have done isn't my concern. They shouldn't be on the market anywhere in
the US, except possibly as discontinued items with disclaimers of their
functionality. And if I'd been talking about an S2DT, I'd have written
S2DT, not just S2. And you know that.

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On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 16:01:34 -0500, Comcast Newsgroups wrote:

Thank you, Megazone, Wes, Mike, for your replies.

BTW, Mike is correct about S2s. They are still sold by liquidators and
retailers with old stock. Recently, fatwallet.com pointed to offers
where you actually made money after rebates. The net result is that
they are paying you to take the S2s. Of course you still would need to
buy a TiVo subscription.

David D.

Show me. I couldn't find anything other than the S2DT, Tivo-HD and S3
there. And we aren't talking about S2DT's.


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Comcast Newsgroups wrote:

My question is whether or not S3 boxes support analog SDTV cable signals
and SDTV OTA broadcasts.

http://www.tivo.com/whatistivo/tivoh...prodspecs.html
http://www.tivo.com/whatistivo/Series3/s3compare.html

Look for where it says "analog antenna (NTSC)" or "Analog antenna channels".
-Joe

Wes Newell wrote:
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:44:29 -0500, Comcast Newsgroups wrote:

Even though S2 boxes are free from time to time (service agreement
notwithstanding), it does not make sense to buy an S2 at this point in
time.

The S2 was discontinued in March. You can't by a new one now.

Older S2 models are still available, new, from discounters.
The S2DT is the current model of Series 2 recorder and is available pretty much everywhere.

Wes was doing David a disservice by not mentioning the S2DT.
-Joe

Wes Newell wrote:
And if I'd been talking about an S2DT, I'd have written
S2DT, not just S2. And you know that.

But newbies aren't that precise. The way your response was
phrased was enough to give the impression that there are
no models in the "Series 2" family are available.
-Joe