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Old October 30th 07, 04:02 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Hi there,

I have added another TV socket to a room so that there are now 2
sockets in one room. Rather than install a new cable from the loft to
the new socket can I dasiy chain the cable from the original socket to
the new one. Only one socket will be in use at any one time.

If so what is the best way to wire it. I have MK faceplates and they
do allow two wires to connect to it, but only has one clamp per
faceplate. Can I use chocolate boxes to join the cables? I'd like to
avoid using a splitter as I have the SLX Remote Control extender and
the splitters seem to stop it from working .

Any suggestions would be welcome,

Thanks,

Toby.

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Old October 30th 07, 04:39 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Hi there,

I have added another TV socket to a room so that there are now 2
sockets in one room. Rather than install a new cable from the loft to
the new socket can I dasiy chain the cable from the original socket to
the new one. Only one socket will be in use at any one time.


No but you could loop at the first plate to a TV / FM plate instead so: -

TV at first plate - fly lead goes from TV out socket to TV.
TV at second plate - fly lead goes from TV out socket to FM (TV in really)
socket connected to other room.

If so what is the best way to wire it. I have MK faceplates and they
do allow two wires to connect to it, but only has one clamp per
faceplate. Can I use chocolate boxes to join the cables? I'd like to
avoid using a splitter as I have the SLX Remote Control extender and
the splitters seem to stop it from working .

Any suggestions would be welcome,

Thanks,

Toby.



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Old October 31st 07, 01:10 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 30 Oct, 15:42, Owain wrote:
wrote:
I have added another TV socket to a room so that there are now 2
sockets in one room. Rather than install a new cable from the loft to
the new socket can I dasiy chain the cable from the original socket to
the new one. Only one socket will be in use at any one time.
If so what is the best way to wire it. I have MK faceplates and they
do allow two wires to connect to it, but only has one clamp per
faceplate. Can I use chocolate boxes to join the cables?


NO

I'd like to
avoid using a splitter as I have the SLX Remote Control extender and
the splitters seem to stop it from working .


Put a plug on the cable and plug it into the front of the existing
socket when needed.

Owain


Thanks for all your suggestions. I've managed to wire the plates with
two wires going on each (daisy chain) as per a diagram I saw on
another site (URL left at work unfortunately).

Cheers.

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Old October 31st 07, 03:13 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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If you really do need to do it without dropping a second cable from
the loft, then it is best to just plug the extension cable into the
first socket. For a neater job you can use a twin socket at the first
position but it must be one with two independent cable connections on
the back and two sockets on the front. Use a very short link cable
with two plugs on it to join the two sockets together when you want to
pass the signal on to the second socket.
I think this is probably what you have done, which should be ok.

The worst thing you can possibly do, and the thing I find on so many
DIY installations, is to loop a second cable off the back of an
existing socket to feed another one. So that is to be avoided at all
costs. It can ruin the signal at the first socket, even if the second
socket has nothing plugged into it, due to standing waves in the
cable, sometimes on just one or two channels.
I have also seen this done over and over again by certain builders and
electricians who have absolutely no knowlege of aerial installation.

During the last few years, in this area, I have had to deal with two
new blocks of flats (about 12 per block). Each flat had one main
socket and then two more sockets chained from the back of it. The
signals were awful and it was almost impossible to rectify as the
cables were plastered in and the sockets were all on internal walls.

Another group of 5 or 6 new largish houses were each wired (by the
builder himself!) so that all aerial sockets in the house were in a
ring starting and finishing at a two way amplifier! The signal
variation from room to room was unbelievable. One of the owners phoned
the builder when I was there, trying to set up his TVs and handed the
phone to me to explain the problem. The builder was very abusive and
told me he always did it this way and it was perfectly fine!

I am currently trying to deal with large country house which has been
converted into about 15 luxury flats.
The developer firstly chose to use the the cheapest co ax cable
throughout with no foil screening (let alone decent copper foil!) and
then to try to feed the whole thing with both UHF and satellite
signals diplexed together and then split to two 8 way amplifiers.
To add insult to injury, they then fitted a TV / Satellite diplexing
socket in one corner of the living rooms and looped a cable from the
back of it to a second diplex socket in the other corner.
Quite amazingly the residents carried on with very poor signals for 2
or 3 years until some started to try to use freeview and others tried
to get Sky. Neither of these works and the developer is disclaiming
all responsibility.

Never, never use chocolate block connectors, mains junction boxes,
twisted taped joints or sockets chained from the back of others for
aerial work, they do not work properly and cause endless problems
later. White plastic coax plugs are pretty useless as well.

............Sorry, I got a bit carried away, but it drives installers
mad....MAD, I say.... (and bald!!)....and it stops Sky magic eys
working!




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Old October 31st 07, 03:52 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"widgitt" wrote in message
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During the last few years, in this area, . . .


It's nice to know others suffer as I do!

Isn't it incredible how builders and electricians do this sort of thing and
then get agressive when we point out that it won't work?

Bill


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Old October 31st 07, 12:23 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"widgitt" wrote in message
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If you really do need to

SNIP


Awful isn't it. What with all these wooden floors appearing everywhere it
can be impossible to rewire. Also you find the owners desperately want to
get it fixed properly, but when you give them a price to rectify things they
recoil in horror and say "but I paid X for this already so I don't want to
spend any more on it"...................






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Old October 31st 07, 12:53 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article ,
Carpy wrote:

"widgitt" wrote in message
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If you really do need to

SNIP


Awful isn't it. What with all these wooden floors appearing everywhere it
can be impossible to rewire. Also you find the owners desperately want
to get it fixed properly, but when you give them a price to rectify
things they recoil in horror and say "but I paid X for this already so I
don't want to spend any more on it"...................




I think the "ring-main" aerial system I met must beat most of them. The
aerial fed a 2 outlet amplifier from which there was a ring of cable with
about a dozen points.

The customer? BBC Wales - the architect? relation of one of the governors.

--
From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey"

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