How to get Closed Captions - series 2 + comcast

Is there a way of getting closed captions on my Tivo Series 2
connected to Comcast Cable?

I think it has to do with your TV.
Comcast here has it, so if you do not, look into the settings on your TV.
As soon as I hit MUTE, I get close captioning.


"dko33" wrote in message
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Is there a way of getting closed captions on my Tivo Series 2
connected to Comcast Cable?

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:22:33 GMT, dko33 wrote:

Is there a way of getting closed captions on my Tivo Series 2
connected to Comcast Cable?

Can you get them on the TV connected to the TiVo?
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If you have a "monitor" like mine, which if I understand it correctly
is a TV without an actual tuner, your TV may not have a closed caption
decoder (mine doesn't). I lost closed captioning when I hooked it up.
Suffered without for several months (closed captioning is to my mind
one of the best things to happen to TV, right up there with TiVo,
Netflix, and HD). Then found the "Guardian" box, which decodes close
captions for TVs that don't have it (and if you want it to filters out
obsenities and things). One problem with it, is that it is only SD
for now, but so are my TiVos so that's ok for me. You should be able
to find one on the web for under $100.

Chris F Clark shaped the electrons to say:
obsenities and things). One problem with it, is that it is only SD
for now, but so are my TiVos so that's ok for me. You should be able
to find one on the web for under $100.

The good news is the HD TiVos have CC decoders built-in, so you'd get
them with the TiVo should you ever upgrade to HD.

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On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 20:38:13 -0400, "Bill"
wrote:

I think it has to do with your TV.
Comcast here has it, so if you do not, look into the settings on your TV.

As soon as I hit MUTE, I get close captioning.


That's a useful feature for those who CAN hear. You have CC when you
need it, but it doesn't get in the way when you don't.

Of course, with a DVR you might prefer PAUSE when you can't listen.


"dko33" wrote in message
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Is there a way of getting closed captions on my Tivo Series 2
connected to Comcast Cable?


BTW, CC allowed me to find out the real words to theme song to "All in
the Family". Before lines sounded like:

Mister we could use a man like Herbert Hoo Maracken

and

Ye are all the sour and grate
--
58 days until the winter solstice celebration

Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"Unlike biological evolution. 'intelligent design' is
not a genuine scientific theory and, therefore, has
no place in the curriculum of our nation's public
school classes." -- Ted Kennedy

On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 21:37:07 -0400, Chris F Clark
wrote:

If you have a "monitor" like mine, which if I understand it correctly
is a TV without an actual tuner, your TV may not have a closed caption
decoder (mine doesn't). I lost closed captioning when I hooked it up.
Suffered without for several months (closed captioning is to my mind
one of the best things to happen to TV, right up there with TiVo,
Netflix, and HD). Then found the "Guardian" box, which decodes close
captions for TVs that don't have it (and if you want it to filters out
obsenities and things).

The CC decoding could be useful, but I'd never use such a filter which
can makes a mess of the material that goes through.

BTW, one of my earlier experiences with editing was with a seventies
TV edit of "Smoky and the Bandit". It was largely unwatchable, with so
many words replaced with little clicks. They can make good movies
without those words, but the edited stuff isn't nearly is good as
that.

One problem with it, is that it is only SD
for now, but so are my TiVos so that's ok for me. You should be able
to find one on the web for under $100.

For HD, I use a projector which doesn't support CC either. Good thing
the TiVo does.
--
58 days until the winter solstice celebration

Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"Unlike biological evolution. 'intelligent design' is
not a genuine scientific theory and, therefore, has
no place in the curriculum of our nation's public
school classes." -- Ted Kennedy

dko33 wrote:
Is there a way of getting closed captions on my Tivo Series 2
connected to Comcast Cable?

Depends on your setup.... I have two tivos/tv's with comcast cable, one is a
CRT and the tivo remote does vol and mute, and that works live but not with
tivo, the other is an oddball LCD (hyundai, no remote code) so only the TV
remote mutes it and goes to CC... However, if you are wondering if the CC
info is recorded, I just tried it while writing this post, I'm playing a
recorded show on the LCD and the seperate remote mutes it, but does NOT go
into CC, yet if I select input direct off comcast cable (bypssing the TIVO),
it does display the CC.. I would surmise that the CC info is not actually
recorded...

Hope that helps....

"Peter Pan" writes:

dko33 wrote:
Is there a way of getting closed captions on my Tivo Series 2
connected to Comcast Cable?

Depends on your setup.... I have two tivos/tv's with comcast cable, one is a
CRT and the tivo remote does vol and mute, and that works live but not with
tivo, the other is an oddball LCD (hyundai, no remote code) so only the TV
remote mutes it and goes to CC... However, if you are wondering if the CC
info is recorded, I just tried it while writing this post, I'm playing a
recorded show on the LCD and the seperate remote mutes it, but does NOT go
into CC, yet if I select input direct off comcast cable (bypssing the TIVO),
it does display the CC.. I would surmise that the CC info is not actually
recorded...

Hope that helps....

Are you sure the show you were watching off the TiVo originally had
closed-captioning? The reason I ask is that we watch a tremendous
amount of pre-TiVo'd material and the Guardian box finds closed
captions on almost all of it. That said, we've watched "live" movies
on the TV (e.g. from HBO) and had the closed captioning stop
displaying halfway through the movie for no obvious reason, usually
all of the sudden in one scene.

Now, our setups may be different and it may be some other reason you
aren't getting closed caption information. However, I do get closed
captions saved on my TiVo recordings. I cannot guarantee that other
person will, nor explain why you do not.

Mark Lloyd wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:22:33 GMT, dko33 wrote:

Can you get them on the TV connected to the TiVo?

Yes. The TiVo goes out of its way to preserve the CC data.
So even when recording at the lowest quality (Basic) mode, TiVo
recreates the vertical retrace data for the television to decode.

-Joe