technodumbo

On 24 Sep, 11:48, wrote:
On 21 Sep, 11:15, Dave Farrance

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I'm giving up now because it's starting to become a brain strain to
suggest alternatives, and maybe nothing can be done to ease the
explanation of the competing satellite systems, anyway. I'll just
mention that I don't think that the non-techie will have an easy job of
extracting the sense of what the words "The new TV system simply
replaces the satellite dish" actually mean, although it's the key to
understanding what the system is about.

Actually, that was one of the paragraphs I had trouble understanding!
(I know, I know) but when it said the new system replaces the
satellite dish, I thought - what satellite dish?? They didn't have a
satellite dish to start with, how can this system have replaced it??
It took a little while for me to work out that Bill meant that a
satellite dish wouldn't be required.

A couple of other points for Bill.....

Freesat from Sky is I think £150 including a card, you only have to
buy the card if you are going to use an existing box.

How do you know there will be boxes suitable for Freesat (the BBC
version" for £70? I've not heard any prices quoted, and we don't know
if the present generation of FTA boxes will cut the mustard.

You say they could instead use a PVR if they don't want to go for Sky
plus. If they go out to Curry's and buy a PVR, they are going to be
very dissapointed when it doesn't work with your system (no DTT)
equally, if they were to manage to buy a FTA PVR (are such
available??) then they won't get C4, Five, etc, etc.

I'm not critiscising here, well I am, but it's meant to be the
constructive sort :=))

Oh, forgot to say.... I don't think your leaflet warns them that if
they go for the Freesat option, they can't watch one chanel and record
another.

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On 21 Sep, 11:15, Dave Farrance
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A couple of other points for Bill.....

How do you know there will be boxes suitable for Freesat (the BBC
version" for £70? I've not heard any prices quoted, and we don't know
if the present generation of FTA boxes will cut the mustard.

I think it's a safe bet. I'm hoping that there will be no encryption so they
will be able to use boxes like the Fortek Star (trade price £36).

You say they could instead use a PVR if they don't want to go for Sky
plus. If they go out to Curry's and buy a PVR, they are going to be
very dissapointed when it doesn't work with your system (no DTT)
equally, if they were to manage to buy a FTA PVR (are such
available??) then they won't get C4, Five, etc, etc.

Thanks for pointing that out. This is a total blunder by me, pasting things
from the last leaflet, which was for a job where DTT worked.

I'm not critiscising here, well I am, but it's meant to be the
constructive sort :=))
No no no! Thanks!

Bill

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On 24 Sep, 11:48, wrote:

Oh, forgot to say.... I don't think your leaflet warns them that if
they go for the Freesat option, they can't watch one chanel and record
another.

Yes quite right. It should make it clear that they need a separate box for
each device. Roll on Freesat PVRs!

Bill

On 24 Sep, 14:16, "Bill Wright" wrote:
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On 21 Sep, 11:15, Dave Farrance

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A couple of other points for Bill.....
How do you know there will be boxes suitable for Freesat (the BBC

version" for £70? I've not heard any prices quoted, and we don't know
if the present generation of FTA boxes will cut the mustard.

I think it's a safe bet. I'm hoping that there will be no encryption so they
will be able to use boxes like the Fortek Star (trade price £36).

Well, the BBC are suggesting the spec will include HD, also they've
said it's going to proper EPG, so I don't think existing kit will
work.

Also as the UK is a relatively small market, I thnk the kit is going
to be relatively expensive at least in the short term (much like the
early DTT boxes).

Nice if they had £90 Dual tuner PVRs by Christmas 2008 though :=))

I've just got the BT Vision product as my first foray into the PVR
world, but SWMBO thinks it too noisy :=(( Also it puts nasty black
bars at the top & bottom of my nice 20" Ferguson 4:3 :=((

Funny to think that 1 year ago she hated the Sky box :=))

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Well, the BBC are suggesting the spec will include HD, also they've
said it's going to proper EPG, so I don't think existing kit will
work.

Also as the UK is a relatively small market, I thnk the kit is going
to be relatively expensive at least in the short term (much like the
early DTT boxes).

I can't see it catching on if we can't use cheap boxes. People will just go
for Sky.


Funny to think that 1 year ago she hated the Sky box :=))
There's no pleasing 'em mate! Let's hope she isn't as fickle about you!

Bill

On 24 Sep, 15:20, "Bill Wright" wrote:
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Well, the BBC are suggesting the spec will include HD, also they've
said it's going to proper EPG, so I don't think existing kit will
work.

Also as the UK is a relatively small market, I thnk the kit is going
to be relatively expensive at least in the short term (much like the
early DTT boxes).

I can't see it catching on if we can't use cheap boxes. People will just go
for Sky.

I think the main thing about it (if it ever comes to market!) is that
it will have BBC written on it, and therefore people will trust it,
and understand that Satellite - is not equal to Sky - is not equal to
subscriptions. Of course if C4 and Five etc can't get onboard, then
that might cause problems.

Much as I like the Sky Digibox, it would be good if Sky had some
serious mass market competition.

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I think the main thing about it (if it ever comes to market!) is that
it will have BBC written on it, and therefore people will trust it,

Are you sure about that?

Rod.

On Sep 24, 1:05 am, "Bill Wright"
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Took empties to bottle bank,unfortunately I ran out of room and wash
ushered away by a council worker. Gave left marky P's and put key back
under the mat. Help yourself!!!! No d.v.d player though Bill
Zoe (no umlaut required)

I hope you realise you are the first flesh-and-blood female ever to set foot
in Marky's lair.

Bill

First and more than likely the last !!!

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Won't there then be the need for two sat downleads? Or am I missing
something and a Freesat PVR will manage on the one downlead. Reading
your 'leaflet' doesnt seem to say owt about that.

Yes, that's an option on the 'your requirements' questionaire.

Bill

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:05:22 +0100, "Bill Wright"
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Took empties to bottle bank,unfortunately I ran out of room and wash
ushered away by a council worker. Gave left marky P's and put key back
under the mat. Help yourself!!!! No d.v.d player though Bill
Zoe (no umlaut required)

I hope you realise you are the first flesh-and-blood female ever to set foot
in Marky's lair.

Bill

My sister-in-law came here once, but the term 'female' should be used
very loosely:-)

Marky P (I'm back, and nothing was stolen)