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Old September 24th 07, 06:23 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
ChrisM
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Default Just to clarify...

.... Is BT Vision, effectively a Cable TV service, in that the pictures
arrives via your broadband connection, rather than through the
air(terestrial or satellite)

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Old September 24th 07, 07:17 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Chas Gill
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Default Just to clarify...


"ChrisM" wrote in message
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... Is BT Vision, effectively a Cable TV service, in that the pictures
arrives via your broadband connection, rather than through the
air(terestrial or satellite)

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AS I understand it the BT Vision offering is a terrestrial STB (to receive
live broadcast programming) combined with a broadband interface box to
download and view video on demand (movies and the like). It also
incorporates an HD recorder, so it's effectively a Freeview pvr (Bill please
note...). Take a look at www.btvision.bt.com


Regards

Chas


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Old September 24th 07, 07:25 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Chas Gill" wrote in message
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"ChrisM" wrote in message
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... Is BT Vision, effectively a Cable TV service, in that the pictures
arrives via your broadband connection, rather than through the
air(terestrial or satellite)

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Regards,
Chris.
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AS I understand it the BT Vision offering is a terrestrial STB (to receive
live broadcast programming) combined with a broadband interface box to
download and view video on demand (movies and the like). It also
incorporates an HD recorder, so it's effectively a Freeview pvr (Bill
please note...). Take a look at www.btvision.bt.com


Regards

Chas



Oops! Sorry, Bill. Just realised it was the FreeSAT pvr you were looking
for, not FreeVIEW - of which there are loads and BT is not unique in this
respect. My mistake - it's been a long day..................

Chas



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Old September 24th 07, 08:12 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Nigel Cliffe
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Default Just to clarify...

Chas Gill wrote:
"ChrisM" wrote in message
...
... Is BT Vision, effectively a Cable TV service, in that the
pictures arrives via your broadband connection, rather than through
the air(terestrial or satellite)

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Chris.
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AS I understand it the BT Vision offering is a terrestrial STB (to
receive live broadcast programming)


ie. Freeview.

combined with a
broadband
interface box to download and view video on demand (movies and the
like). It also incorporates an HD recorder, so it's effectively a
Freeview pvr (Bill please note...). Take a look at
www.btvision.bt.com



Correct and fair summary.


- Nigel (who worked on BT Vision development )


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Old September 24th 07, 09:56 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Charlie Pearce
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:23:02 +0100, "ChrisM"
wrote:

... Is BT Vision, effectively a Cable TV service, in that the pictures
arrives via your broadband connection, rather than through the
air(terestrial or satellite)


That's about the only real similarity it has to a cable TV service.

With cable TV, a cable is connected to your house, through which all
channels are continuously broadcast, across a wide frequency spectrum.
Your set top box tunes in to the right frequency for the programme you
want to watch (and in the case of digital cable TV, decodes the one
programme you want from the mulitplex on that frequency).

With BT Vision, as you say, your broadband connection is used to
transfer the programmes. Your "set top box" sends packets of data to
BT Vision telling them which programme you want to watch, and BT
Vision stream packets of data back to you over the DSL network, which
your "set top box" reassembles and decodes.

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Old September 24th 07, 09:59 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Charlie Pearce
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:56:25 +0100, Charlie Pearce
wrote:

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:23:02 +0100, "ChrisM"
wrote:

... Is BT Vision, effectively a Cable TV service, in that the pictures
arrives via your broadband connection, rather than through the
air(terestrial or satellite)


That's about the only real similarity it has to a cable TV service.

With cable TV, a cable is connected to your house, through which all
channels are continuously broadcast, across a wide frequency spectrum.
Your set top box tunes in to the right frequency for the programme you
want to watch (and in the case of digital cable TV, decodes the one
programme you want from the mulitplex on that frequency).

With BT Vision, as you say, your broadband connection is used to
transfer the programmes. Your "set top box" sends packets of data to
BT Vision telling them which programme you want to watch, and BT
Vision stream packets of data back to you over the DSL network, which
your "set top box" reassembles and decodes.


Correction - the BT Vision box also includes a digital terrestrial
tuner and hard drive. I ought to have checked my facts before
posting, but hey, this is USENET.

Charlie
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Old September 24th 07, 10:49 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default Just to clarify...

"Charlie Pearce" wrote in
message ...
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:56:25 +0100, Charlie Pearce
wrote:

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:23:02 +0100, "ChrisM"
wrote:

... Is BT Vision, effectively a Cable TV service, in that the pictures
arrives via your broadband connection, rather than through the
air(terestrial or satellite)


That's about the only real similarity it has to a cable TV service.

With cable TV, a cable is connected to your house, through which all
channels are continuously broadcast, across a wide frequency spectrum.
Your set top box tunes in to the right frequency for the programme you
want to watch (and in the case of digital cable TV, decodes the one
programme you want from the mulitplex on that frequency).

With BT Vision, as you say, your broadband connection is used to
transfer the programmes. Your "set top box" sends packets of data to
BT Vision telling them which programme you want to watch, and BT
Vision stream packets of data back to you over the DSL network, which
your "set top box" reassembles and decodes.


Correction - the BT Vision box also includes a digital terrestrial
tuner and hard drive. I ought to have checked my facts before
posting, but hey, this is USENET.

Charlie
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It's worth adding Charlie, that the BT-Vision box has TWO tuners and is
capable of recording 2 programmes at once!

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Old September 26th 07, 04:47 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 25 Sep, 13:35, "ChrisM" wrote:
In message ,
ChrisM Proclaimed from the tallest tower:

... Is BT Vision, effectively a Cable TV service, in that the pictures
arrives via your broadband connection, rather than through the
air(terestrial or satellite)


Thanks for the replies.
So it is a Freeview receiver (or rather PVR) with an internet connection to
do the 'on-demand' stuff and a few other clever tricks.

...not really a solution to my freeview reception problems then...


Nope, for that you want a better aerial (if you are in a suitable
location) or else Freesat from Sky (Or their £75 Pay once watch
forever if it's avail at the mo) but these are single chanel and no
PVR facility.

It is also worth pointing out that BT Vision requires BT Broadband and
A BT (idealy) a BT HomeHub in order to work. BT have said they will
upgrade them all during 2007 so they can be used as standalone PVRs,
but i'm not holding my breath.

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Old September 26th 07, 05:33 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In message ,
Proclaimed
from the tallest tower:

On 25 Sep, 13:35, "ChrisM" wrote:
In message ,
ChrisM Proclaimed from the tallest
tower:

... Is BT Vision, effectively a Cable TV service, in that the
pictures arrives via your broadband connection, rather than through
the air(terestrial or satellite)


Thanks for the replies.
So it is a Freeview receiver (or rather PVR) with an internet
connection to do the 'on-demand' stuff and a few other clever tricks.

...not really a solution to my freeview reception problems then...


Nope, for that you want a better aerial (if you are in a suitable
location) or else Freesat from Sky (Or their £75 Pay once watch
forever if it's avail at the mo) but these are single chanel and no
PVR facility.

It is also worth pointing out that BT Vision requires BT Broadband and
A BT (idealy) a BT HomeHub in order to work. BT have said they will
upgrade them all during 2007 so they can be used as standalone PVRs,
but i'm not holding my breath.


Thanks, I know what I need in order to receive Freeview, that's the problem;
I need to make an (expensive) investment in new aerial, downlead etc. etc
before I'll be able to receive that. I'm thinking of losing Virgin Media
cable, in order to save a few quid a month, and am looking for alternatives
other than Freeview. Looks like Freesat is my only option :-(
Maybe I'll just stick with the cable TV for now...

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