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  #51  
Old September 20th 07, 05:39 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sep 20, 11:07 am, Darren Wilkinson [email protected] wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 20, 12:56 am, Ian wrote:
In message .com,
writes


On Sep 18, 11:12 pm, "TrevM" wrote:
"Roderick Stewart" wrote in message
et...
In article .com,
wrote:
and hey thanks for
not treating me like an idiot i appreciate it as im well educated 4 a
levels at a and b grades and uni masters ffs!!!! lol
I wonder in what subjects these qualifications could possibly be?
Probably not English Language.... let me guess - "Media Studies"?
Rod.
Why am I suddenly feeling suicidal?
TrevM
I really don't understand why you seem to be attacking me about my
english
That's the saddest part of all.
--
Ian


.....and you are?


They aren't attacking you just having a little fun at your expense.
You've taken it (slightly) more seriously than it is intended because
you've new to this newsgroup. Keep posting on your tv troubles and
you'll get the help you've after.


Sorry if I have taken this a little more to heart than maybe I should,
all I wanted was some advice on my television problem and all I have
had so far, excluding Dave and yourself, are critical remarks on my
grammar. I did point out that I came here for "Technical advice" not
to re-sit an exam. Thankyou for taking the time to explain though.

  #52  
Old September 20th 07, 05:44 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sep 20, 10:01 am, charles wrote:
In article . com,
wrote:

my goodness,like i explained i was far too busy to worry about
punctuation the other morning.Had this been an advertisement for the
english language then I would have waited until a later date to type.
As stated before i was lead to believe this was a tech help group,are
you in the right place.For one you have given me no advice on the
issue i was asking after,and 2 if ou are such a professional on
punctuation maybe there is an english site for you?


Even the above, when you apparently had time, would not normally be
acceptable English.

It is normal to put a space after a punctuation mark.

The word 'I' is always written in upper case.

If you are creating a list, then either use words or figures, don't mix
them.

Check your spelling.

Once you have mastered the English language, your questions might be easier
to understand and might receive useful replies. If you can't write decent
English, people might think you can't understand it either.

Remember, in technical subjects it is essential to be exact in your use of
words otherwise disasters can occur. eg mw or MW.

--
From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey"

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11


With all due respect I have no idea which are the correct ways to
signify technical words simply because I have not needed to. For the
immediate future I will endeavor to learn some "Technical Jargon" to
keep you all off my back.

  #53  
Old September 20th 07, 05:50 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sep 20, 12:57 pm, "TrevM" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...



On Sep 18, 11:12 pm, "TrevM" wrote:
"Roderick Stewart" wrote in message


...


In article .com,
wrote:
and hey thanks for
not treating me like an idiot i appreciate it as im well educated 4 a
levels at a and b grades and uni masters ffs!!!! lol


I wonder in what subjects these qualifications could possibly be?


Probably not English Language.... let me guess - "Media Studies"?


Rod.


Why am I suddenly feeling suicidal?


TrevM


I really don't understand why you seem to be attacking me about my
english


You brought my and other similar remarks on yourself. Until you mentioned
your high qualifications you got only sensible advice from some remarkably
patient and knowledgeable people.

Speaking for myself, I was initially surprised and somewhat depressed that
someone with good A-levels and a Master's degree in any subject could write
so badly, rather as a comment on recent standards in education than as an
attack on you. Your further revelations that your degree was in English
Language and that you are teaching the subject leave me astonished and even
more depressed about the way education has gone in recent decades.

I guess from your defensiveness that you are quite used to criticism of your
writing, so rather than beefing about a couple of flippant remarks here, I
suggest you take a serious look at your abilities in reading and writing
English and do something about them. Can you not see the difference between
what you write and what most others here write, in terms of spacing,
punctuation, capitalisation and choice of words? Where did you ever see the
words "incoherent" and "furthermore" with hyphens in the middle, for
example? Look up "remorse" and you will see that you meant "regret".

Are you confident that the kids you teach to your standard will be any use
at all in a job that requires any degree of visual awareness, precision of
thought and action, and attention to detail, let alone writing English well
enough that readers will not assume they are barely literate?

TrevM
(O-level English Language, 1957)

Actually the comments made to me were after I had "badly typed" what
the problem was that I was encountering. As I keep mentioning I wasn't
aware that I had to be
so grammatically precise when asking for help. Please accept my
apologies for offending you and/or anyone else here in this group. I
never intended this all to be an issue.

  #54  
Old September 20th 07, 05:55 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sep 20, 9:12 am, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:
In article . com,
wrote:

my goodness,like i explained i was far too busy to worry about
punctuation the other morning.Had this been an advertisement for the
english language then I would have waited until a later date to type.
As stated before i was lead to believe this was a tech help group,are
you in the right place.For one you have given me no advice on the
issue i was asking after,and 2 if ou are such a professional on
punctuation maybe there is an english site for you?


I suggested you read the owners manual. Which apparently as a claimed
English language graduate of some sort you're not able to do.

The majority on newsgroups don't like 'textspeak'. It is unpleasant to
read and can be difficult to understand. It also shows the writer doesn't
have any respect for those he is asking help from, IMHO.

As a claimed teacher of English it should be second nature to you to type
a reasonably tidy looking post. That you obviously are incapable of this
makes me wonder if you have ever read a book.

--
*I almost had a psychic girlfriend but she left me before we met *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.


My apologies for not conforming to your expectations. I do find you
quite rude. You don't even know me and are ready to judge. I did not
take typing as a subject in school or university. I don't use
computers in my English lessons either. In fact, when it comes to
typing, I am totally "crap" is this the correct technical term???

  #55  
Old September 20th 07, 06:01 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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The message
from charles contains these words:

=====snip=====

Remember, in technical subjects it is essential to be exact in your use of
words otherwise disasters can occur. eg mw or MW.


Sorry to point this out (I agree entirely with your sentiments, btw)
but, it seems Murphy's Law strikes again! ITYMHM to write: "eg mW or
MW." rather than "eg mw or MW." :-(

--
Regards, John.

Please remove the "ohggcyht" before replying.
The address has been munged to reject Spam-bots.

  #56  
Old September 20th 07, 06:03 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sep 20, 10:25 am, Dave Farrance
wrote:
wrote:
Scrambled as in.they come on for a moment then go "scrambled"
distorted picture.I went and bought a wideband aerial yesterday with
the hope that it could be the problem


Now I understand. If you're getting picture breakup, then there *is* a
problem with the aerial system.

Best to call it "breakup" rather than "scrambled". That's because there
are a few pay channels that are encrypted, commonly known as
"scrambled". If I switch my TV to channel 17, for example, it actually
says "This channel is scrambled".

As for the aerial system, the problem could be the connectors, a poor
cable, the aerial, the position of the aerial, or that repair in the
cable that you mentioned earlier. A cable repair is certainly suspect
because you really have to know what you're doing to make a repair to
coaxial cable that doesn't lose a whole chunk of the signal.

--
Dave Farrance


Hello Dave. First and foremost many thanks on your advice and help. I
do appreciate the fact you have refrained from pointing out any
grammatical errors I have made. If I do ever use the computer to
type,obviously I take time to plan and set out the content. Otherwise
i use it for research. I have a few close pals with instant message
accounts and I can only explain my poor literacy skills as sheer
laziness. When you spend all day having to be 150% correct, it's nice
to be able to just Waffle" as it were, and not worry.
Anyhow, thankyou once again, I am just off up into the
loft to try this new aerial out. To all others reading this ....Do not
worry, If it works, I need not come here to tell you. Deal??? Regards
Zoe, 32 year old female (obviously) English teacher. Cambridgeshire.

  #57  
Old September 20th 07, 06:04 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sep 20, 4:44 pm, wrote:

With all due respect I have no idea which are the correct ways to
signify technical words simply because I have not needed to. For the
immediate future I will endeavor to learn some "Technical Jargon" to
keep you all off my back.


No, no, please DON'T learn technical jargon, there's no need, and
you'll only end up unwittingly using the wrong term to describe
something. Non technical people are perfectly welcome in here (at
least by me, and many other regulars). A clear and articulate
explanation of your problem, as you see it, is all that is needed.
With that, and follow up questions/answers, the group can help you get
to the bottom of most things.


  #58  
Old September 20th 07, 06:09 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sep 20, 5:04 pm, Mark Carver wrote:
On Sep 20, 4:44 pm, wrote:

With all due respect I have no idea which are the correct ways to
signify technical words simply because I have not needed to. For the
immediate future I will endeavor to learn some "Technical Jargon" to
keep you all off my back.


No, no, please DON'T learn technical jargon, there's no need, and
you'll only end up unwittingly using the wrong term to describe
something. Non technical people are perfectly welcome in here (at
least by me, and many other regulars). A clear and articulate
explanation of your problem, as you see it, is all that is needed.
With that, and follow up questions/answers, the group can help you get
to the bottom of most things.


Much appreciated Mark, reference to learning the "jargon" was slightly
sarcastic, sorry. Just found it difficult in a hurry the other
morning, to lay out the problem in conforming English.I have received
help from Dave, who hasn't once judged me on my grammar. I suppose
that's why I got upset at all the comments I received. He understood
so why couldn't they? Thanks again .

  #59  
Old September 20th 07, 06:23 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Sep 20, 5:01 pm, Johnny B Good
wrote:
The message
from charles contains these words:

=====snip=====

Remember, in technical subjects it is essential to be exact in your use of
words otherwise disasters can occur. eg mw or MW.


Sorry to point this out (I agree entirely with your sentiments, btw)
but, it seems Murphy's Law strikes again! ITYMHM to write: "eg mW or
MW." rather than "eg mw or MW." :-(

--
Regards, John.

Please remove the "ohggcyht" before replying.
The address has been munged to reject Spam-bots.


John, your comment is greatly appreciated, thankyou. How can you be
precise when you haven't really got a clue what you are talking
about?

  #60  
Old September 20th 07, 06:33 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In message ,
Proclaimed from the
tallest tower:

On Sep 20, 10:25 am, Dave Farrance
wrote:
wrote:
Scrambled as in.they come on for a moment then go "scrambled"
distorted picture.I went and bought a wideband aerial yesterday with
the hope that it could be the problem


Now I understand. If you're getting picture breakup, then there
*is* a problem with the aerial system.

Best to call it "breakup" rather than "scrambled". That's because
there are a few pay channels that are encrypted, commonly known as
"scrambled". If I switch my TV to channel 17, for example, it
actually says "This channel is scrambled".

As for the aerial system, the problem could be the connectors, a poor
cable, the aerial, the position of the aerial, or that repair in the
cable that you mentioned earlier. A cable repair is certainly
suspect because you really have to know what you're doing to make a
repair to coaxial cable that doesn't lose a whole chunk of the
signal.

--
Dave Farrance


Hello Dave. First and foremost many thanks on your advice and help. I
do appreciate the fact you have refrained from pointing out any
grammatical errors I have made. If I do ever use the computer to
type,obviously I take time to plan and set out the content. Otherwise
i use it for research. I have a few close pals with instant message
accounts and I can only explain my poor literacy skills as sheer
laziness. When you spend all day having to be 150% correct, it's nice
to be able to just Waffle" as it were, and not worry.
Anyhow, thankyou once again, I am just off up into the
loft to try this new aerial out. To all others reading this ....Do not
worry, If it works, I need not come here to tell you. Deal??? Regards
Zoe, 32 year old female (obviously) English teacher. Cambridgeshire.


Hey, don't be like that... :-)
Dispite the 'gentle ribbing' that you may have received, most people here
are genuinely interested in problems of this nature, and whether they get
sorted out or not. It would be nice to know if your new aerial solves things
or not...
If it doesn't, I'm sure someone will be able to help ongoing.

--
Regards,
Chris.
(Remove Elvis's shoes to email me)


 




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